Ultimate Ardbeg Dinner

[shane]

Provenance 1974 was the greatest and most grand, but only just edging out the Burgandy, 77 and 75. Admiral, I am surprised you have released your secret identity buddy. You have officially been exposed to the whisky world now!

[Admiral]

Hee hee hee.....now Shane, what are you doing around these parts??

Actually, I didn't reveal my identity, just my ugly face !!!

See you round!

Cheers,
ADmiral

[shane]

Just did a search on the dinner, had a browse around and stumbled across your post buddy.

[LeoDLion]

If the whole dinner last 2 hours, you all must be drunk !!!

[irishwhiskeychaser]

There is a vid of it on .....

http://www.singlemalt.tv/

I'm signed up so I can view it no probs but I don't know whether a non member has to pay or not

[peat-chaser]

Why, tell me why, do I believe that the whole thread is a fake?

I think the line up is rather weird, because the Ardbeg 10 Year Old, Uigeadail, and Beast in the beginning and the Mor in the end do not fit with the rest, especially not in this order.
Also there is no Kildalton 1981 except of the miniatures in the peat-pack, and I´ve never heard of an Ardbeg 1999 matured in a burgundy cask, I can´t even find it in Google. And to topp this, if it exists it can´t be an original botteling like all others and no intelligent beeing could choose it for the best dram of this range.

So I hope my posting is not too rude, but I believe dear admiral is kidding or testing us. If I´m wrong, please be so kind and show us a few pictures of the event and the line-up, for I also don´t believe that an event like this is possible without take any fotographs.

[irishwhiskeychaser]

Why, tell me why, do I believe that the whole thread is a fake?

Well if you don't know why, how the hell are we supposed to know ...

As I said earlier there is a video of the night in question.

A 26 minute mini film to be persice. Now the way I'd look at this is why would someone go to all the trouble to make a mini film about the whole night especially with nothing to gain from it as he is not trying to sell anything (yet ) ..... basically it is a meal with Ardbeg Whiskies ... the whiskys have to be matched to food so that is one reason that maybe they are not in a particular order.

However the first 4 whiskies were drank at the start (recption style) to the night and the rest was paired to food. Quite logical to start of with the cheaper whiskies in this case.

And to finish off with a 4.5 litre bottle is grand as they can then go for refils

[martin grant]

Afternoon Peat - Chaser,
Like IWC above, I am absolutely convinced the dinner in Australia did indeed take place. The video on singlemalt.tv does seem to make rather compelling evidence. I can think of no reason to go to such lengths in an attempt to try and trick us into believing such a dinner was held.

Like you, I have never heard of a burgundy wood finished Ardbeg before, but I do know that Ardbeg, like most other distilleries, experiment with different wood finishes. Some work, some don't.

Personally I'm just jealous I didn't get to join the lucky few for the dinner. Looks like it was a fantastic night

[Admiral]

Why, tell me why, do I believe that the whole thread is a fake?

I think the line up is rather weird, because the Ardbeg 10 Year Old, Uigeadail, and Beast in the beginning and the Mor in the end do not fit with the rest, especially not in this order.
Also there is no Kildalton 1981 except of the miniatures in the peat-pack, and I´ve never heard of an Ardbeg 1999 matured in a burgundy cask, I can´t even find it in Google. And to topp this, if it exists it can´t be an original botteling like all others and no intelligent beeing could choose it for the best dram of this range.

Dear Peat-Chaser

Umm....now I'm wondering whether your post is a fake?????

Are you serious with those questions????? Doesn't matter...I'll answer them anyway:

1. Please read through my previous 2563 contributions made to this website and see how many other fake events I've reported on.

2. Moet Hennessy partly sponsored the event and wanted to feature the currently available line up as a curtain-raiser to the main event. This is why the 10yo, Uigedail, and Beast were served at the start...these were the pre-dinner drinks.

3. Yes, you are correct, the 1981 Kildalton was actually sourced from 14 Ardbeg Peat Packs. The miniatures were opened and they were all poured into one large bottle. The 14 Ardbeg Peat Packs were donated by Moet Hennessy on the night.

4. Again, you are correct, there has never been an official bottling of 1999 Burgundy Cask Ardbeg. But that doesn't mean that such a cask does not exist in Ardbeg's warehouse! The bottle used on the night was a sample drawn directly from the cask. And if a burgundy cask sounds odd to you, don't forget that Ardbeg is owned by Glenmorangie, and Glenmorangie employs a certain individual by the name of Bill Lumsden.

5. Why on earth would you suggest that no intelligent being would choose this as their favourite????? Do you think the Burgundy Cask was featured at the tasting because it was a weird whisky, or because it was a spectacularly good whisky? I'll answer the question for you....it was featured at the tasting because it was a spectacularly sensational bottling, so it shouldn't surprise anyone to learn that some of us at the tasting thought it was the best of the night. Remember...this was the "Ultimate" Ardbeg dinner, not the "Ordinary" Ardbeg Dinner. And don't ever fall for the trap of thinking that an 8yo whisky can't possibly be as good as a 25yo whisky. Old does not equal better.

6. I can forward you photographs of the night if you like. A professional photographer was hired for the evening, and I have over 200 of his photos on a CD. However, as has already been suggested, why don't you just log on to http://www.singlemalt.tv and watch the whole event in motion pictures!

Hoax? Ha! Any chance you were a fan of The Matrix ??

Thanks for giving me a chuckle.

Cheers,
ADmiral

[Wendy]

Ardbeg Conspiracy theories -- I just love it!

Admiral,
I thank you for sharing your wonderful evening with us. I also viewed the film footage of the night and it looked like a real honour to have attended. The inspiration of the evening was the highlight.

Cheers,
Wendy

[Deactivated Member]

Well, of course this event never happened. First of all, "Ardbeg" is not a real distillery; it's a series of bottlings made by the British navy, for the purpose of disposing of surplus tar. And the so-called "Australia" is not even a real place. It's an elaborate fiction concocted by the British government in an effort to avoid responsibility for what they really did to all those convicts. And don't try to tell me you've been there--where you've actually been, for the most part, is Baja California. "Sydney" is actually San Diego, which is populated entirely by retired CIA agents. They are only too happy to go along with the gag, driving on the left and putting on that silly accent during tourist season. Platypus, my eye.

And finally, "Admiral" is just one of many so-called "Australians" planted in the media throughout the world by the Brits as a means of maintaining the deception. He is actually written by a minor government functionary living in Milton Keynes. I have to admit, though, he does know a little about whisky.

[Admiral]

Mr T is entirely correct and has in fact revealed all.

However, the CIA cannot allow such knowledge to be in the public domain. Be warned, Mr T, some men will shortly be coming to your house to escort you to Alaska, where you will be incarcerated in solitary confinement.

(But don't worry too much.....Alaska is really just Colorado, inhabited by ex-FBI agents).

Cheers,
AD

[les taylor]

Brilliant Guys.

[r900p]

what was the food, spicy?! The tv on the whiskymag home page seems to have broke, just a fuzz of multi colours. Must have altered my settings somehow!

Rob

[peat-chaser]

... so babes your right, though much more aggressiv than necessary,
and I´m on weekend now, have a dram and calm down

[Deactivated Member]

Mr T is entirely correct and has in fact revealed all.

However, the CIA cannot allow such knowledge to be in the public domain. Be warned, Mr T, some men will shortly be coming to your house to escort you to Alaska, where you will be incarcerated in solitary confinement.

(But don't worry too much.....Alaska is really just Colorado, inhabited by ex-FBI agents).

Cheers,
AD

No worries...I'm actually just a figment of my own imagination, anyway.

To elaborate a bit: The navy had a bunch of old tar barrels stored in warehouses. One got mixed in Gwith a bunch of bourbon barrels accidentally, and was filled with Glen Moray. The result was, well, serendipitous. The casks were used up by the mid-nineties, and "Ardbeg" was closed. But another warehouse was found afew years later, and production resumed. Rumor is that there aren't many of these left, so if you like "Ardebeg", buy now--when it's gone, it's gone!

[Deactivated Member]

... so babes your right, though much more aggressiv than necessary....

Can't say I blame him--you pretty much called him a liar.

[Lawrence]

... so babes your right, though much more aggressiv than necessary,
and I´m on weekend now, have a dram and calm down

It seems when you call a person such as Admiral a liar (that's how I interpreted your post) then the response is bound to be a little aggressive although I feel that his response was measured and assertive.

In any case your fears were groundless and the questions were answered. But you are right one one point;it's the weekend and time for a dram.

[Admiral]

Lest I be accused of being too sensitive, no, I didn't take any offence or feel I was being called a liar.

However, I was a little taken back at the suggestion that I was an unintelligent being because my palate (and others') chose a 1999 burgundy cask as being one of the best whiskies on the night.

Single cask whiskies are truly amazing things. I recently got to taste two different single casks from Highland Park. Both were filled on the same day from the same spirit run; had sequential cask numbers (i.e. 1335, 1336); and both had sat side by side in the warehouse together for 20 years.

One of these casks was absolutely delicious, the other was very bland and dull.

The moral of the story is never to judge a single cask whisky by the distillery it came from, or the age and type of the cask. Single casks are such individual and unique entities; we must never make generalisations or have preconceived ideas about how they should taste simply because they came from a certain distillery or used a certain type of wood.

Cheers,
ADmiral

[titus]

Nice speech on singlemalt TV mate.
Would of loved to have attended that night. Perhaps I shall meet such an experience some other time in the future.