Nick Brown wrote:
Aidan wrote:I don't think Britain includes any part of Ireland. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom, rather than Britain.
Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain. But in order to have great Britain, you must have part of Britain that is not in the greater part.
I know people in Ireland dislike the term British Isles. That's because they mistakenly believe it to refer somehow to a claim of sovereignty by the UK. It doesn't. It refers to the fact that the islands constitute an archepeligo called Britain. It's like people in Canada denying that their country is part of America.
I believe it is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. So If Northern Ireland is part of Britain, then it's the United Kingdom of Great Britain (including Northern Ireland) and Northern Ireland. Does not make sense.
I know it's different, but Rhodesia is no longer called Rhodesia. Why can't people just respect the Irish gov's wishes? It's not a hard thing to do.
I live in Ireland and have met many of its people. I don't know anyone who thinks the term "British Isles" is a claim of soverneignty. I'd prefer if we were not included under this term. But I can't stop people using it.
I'm not sure that Britain is a group of islands that includes Ireland either.
I've also found this
In 1947 Ireland's Department of External Affairs drafted a letter to the heads of all government departments...... The expression "British Isles" was "a complete misnomer and its use should be thoroughly discouraged"; it should be replaced "where necessary by Ireland and Great Britain."
Written Answers - Official Terms", DÃ¡il Ã‰ireann - Volume 606 - 28 September 2005. In his response, the Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs stated "The British Isles is not an officially recognised term in any legal or inter-governmental sense. It is without any official status. The Government, including the Department of Foreign Affairs, does not use this term. Our officials in the Embassy of Ireland, London, continue to monitor the media in Britain for any abuse of the official terms as set out in the Constitution of Ireland and in legislation. These include the name of the State, the President, Taoiseach and others."
"New atlas lets Ireland slip shackles of Britain". The Times, London, 3 October 2006. A spokesman for the Irish Embassy in London said: "The British Isles has a dated ring to it, as if we are still part of the Empire. We are independent, we are not part of Britain, not even in geographical terms. We would discourage its usage."
Of course, just because I've found it doesn't make it the case, but interesting all the same.