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Postby boc » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:37 pm

Hi everyone , just wondering if anyone can help me. I have a bottle of jameson10 very special old whiskey matured for not less than 15 years ,its a 26 2/3 fl ozs and blended vatted and bottled by williams-egan ltd tullamore 70% proof and in its box . on the bottom of the bottle are the numbers 1363 and 75 . does anyone know its age or possibly its value?
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Re: jameson10

Postby Aidan » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:30 am

Hi

There was someone on here with similar whiskey not so long ago. I think in the current market, they could reach about €150 to €200, but probably nearer the lower value.

The last person had a case, but I think they became a little hard to sell just as the recession bit...

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Re: jameson10

Postby Pure Pot Head » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:33 pm

Anyone know from roughly what year that bottle originates?

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Re: jameson10

Postby Aidan » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:36 pm

I think the mid 70s, but I'm not 100 percent sure. I will check it out.
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Re: jameson10

Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:28 pm

boc wrote:Hi everyone , just wondering if anyone can help me. I have a bottle of jameson10 very special old whiskey matured for not less than 15 years ,its a 26 2/3 fl ozs and blended vatted and bottled by williams-egan ltd tullamore 70% proof and in its box . on the bottom of the bottle are the numbers 1363 and 75 . does anyone know its age or possibly its value?


Can you post a picture ...? I'm guessing it is Crested Ten by Jameson.

If that is the case it is worth as Aidan says about 150Euro on Ebay.

If your interested in selling let me know I know some one who would like to take if off your hands but probably only at the above values.

If you get better offers jump at them though.
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Re: jameson10

Postby Aidan » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:10 pm

I think it's a Jameson 10 rather than a Crested 10, Adrian. There's one in the Celtic Whiskey Shop.
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Re: jameson10

Postby Pure Pot Head » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:56 pm

A Jameson 10 yr old! Hmm. Never heard of that one. Would love to see a picture if possible?

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Re: jameson10

Postby Aidan » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:27 am

Here's a picture (though of a miniature version)
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Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:42 am

Ahh yea with you now ... I'm wondering if this was a pre cursor to the Crested 10 as it has a very similar label to the early Crested 10's ???
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Re: jameson10

Postby Pure Pot Head » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:21 pm

That Jameson 10 miniature could be from the 1950's. The bottler is from Tullamore but I can't make out the rest. Could be relevant that Tullamore Dew had gone bust in the early 1950's and local suppliers sought out more Dublin whiskey, and took in a batch of Jameson 10yr old.

I doubt if it specifically led to Crested 10 though. I heard somewhere from someone who heard from someone somewhere that the idea behind Crested 10 was not an age statement thing but more an adopted notion of packaging whiskies with a Cognac type badge engineering. And if I'm not mistaken which I often am, Crested Ten was the first true Jameson Distillery bottling in the sense that, as opposed to bottles being bottled from supplied casks and possibly adulterated, the idea here was that the Crested Ten monicker was a gaurantee that the contents were bottled and sealed at the distillery. A Gaurantee that no middle man was involved. Akin to Powers gold Label versus Powers White Label. But it's not an area I know much about and the whole history of bottling intrigues me. I'm astonished that it's such a recent trend.

MAybe smeone can bring clarity to my hazy understanding?

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Re: jameson10

Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:46 pm

Totally did not pick up on the Tullamore connection at all :oops: Basically a merchant bottling so. It is actually say Egans of Tullamore. I know there was P&H Egans of Tullamore who date back to 1852 and may possibly of been them but not sure if they were still going in the 50's. They had a Brewery, Malt house and were also Spirit & Wine Bonders as well as a General Merchants store. A one stop shop by the sounds of it.
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Re: jameson10

Postby Aidan » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:14 pm

I heard from Barry Walsh about the Crested Ten name. There were whiskeys in it younger than ten years old, and everyone was going with age statements. The whiskey in it was/is predominantly over ten years old. It's kind of like an age statement, although it's not an age statement.
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Re: jameson10

Postby Pure Pot Head » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:49 pm

It's kind of like an age statement, although it's not an age statement


Ah yes, masters of marketing :lol:

Maybe the Irish Whiskey industry should celebrate and make a virtue out of it's oftimes mysterious appraoch to labelling!
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Re: jameson10

Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:38 pm

Pure Pot Head wrote:Maybe the Irish Whiskey industry should celebrate and make a virtue out of it's of times mysterious appraoch to labelling!


Like the Jameson Vintage ... which contains some of the oldest whiskies available in Midleton (as well as some others :lol: )

But in all fairness it is a piece of class though :thumbsup:

So should we be bothered about the age statements of such a wonderful whiskey?
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Re: jameson10

Postby Brgreat5 » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:21 pm

The Jameson 10 is most likely 1950s-1960s (I'd guess the latter). Jameson first produced their own bottling called Jameson Crested 10 in 1963 (their first ever blend afaik), so there is a strong possibility that they stopped supplying Egans of Tullamore at that time (if Egan's were still around?). This is what happened when Midleton started producing the Midleton Reserve in 1971 (forerunner to VR), as they stopped supplying casks to the Cork publican trade in 1970 ,in order to preserve stocks for the new bottling, to great local outcry.

In terms of value I'd agree with earlier sentiments about €150<€200.

Hope that helps!
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