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What is the ultimate whisky for irish coffee?

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What is the ultimate whisky for irish coffee?

Postby Jan » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:35 am

Inspired by the JWB thread:

What is in your opinion the best whisky for making irish coffees?

Personally I use Tullamore Dew, as I feel it makes the drink taste better, than using any cheap blend. (As most people do here in DK)

But I actuallly have'nt tried it with other irish whiskies....
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Postby Aidan » Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:12 am

Powers Gold Label is usually the one used in Ireland, Jan. I think it's the best too, as it's a little spicy.
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Postby Di Blasi » Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:28 am

Good to hear about the Powers Gold Label, it's the one I use too! The original, somewhat, from what I read/heard.
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Postby Aidan » Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:19 pm

Yes, that's what most bars serve. I think there was a poll of bars a few years ago, and something like 70 percent put Powers in an Irish coffee. some also use Paddy, because it's a little cheaper and they charge the same price for the coffee.

The original whisky used would have been a pure pot still.
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Postby hpulley » Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:33 pm

I don't normally take any milk or cream in my coffee so I take most of my 'irish' coffee black! Jameson seems to work well, as does Powers Gold Label.

How about scotch coffee? Anyone? Cafe mocha with a hit of chocolately Ardbeg!

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Postby Reggaeblues » Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:40 pm

Not being a coffee connoiseur I'd use the bottle of Bell's someone kindly gave me which currently stands unopened amongst a sea of malts...OK, it's not strickly 'Irish' but I do have half a bottle of Paddy's(another gift!) I sometimes use as a palate cleanser...

Whisky snob that i am...

Ardbeg in coffee? Sacrilege! Hope Jim Murray isn't reading this...
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Postby Di Blasi » Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:42 pm

Paddy I think I heard was the sales guy travelling around selling Powers years back, and so people started asking for Paddy's rather than Powers, thus the name and birth of that whiskey.
As for the Scotch coffee, yes, a great combo with the Ardbeg! The yearly, (almost 35 years strong now!!) New Year's Eve turkey feast at my girlfriend's parent's house a few years ago almost ended in disaster, no Irish Whiskey for the Irish Coffee! "Not a problem, use the Ardbeg," I insisted! We were all surprised to see it work perfectly, and all enjoyed the smoky version even though they aren't whisky drinkers.
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Postby JimbobOfTheNUWS » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:06 pm

A lot of the folks on the Antrim coast use Coleraine whiskey(blend middleton/Bushmills), quite nutty and sweet. Goes well with columbian coffee.

I tried Laphroaig in an irish(well in this case gaelic) coffee once. The mecidinal iodiney flavour and peatiness made it absolutely disgusting, and a waste of an islay malt in a drink where it just doesn't belong.

Don't do it I tells ya!!
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Postby Reggaeblues » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:14 pm

Hmmm. big debate. One loves Ardbeg in his coffee, one hates Laphroaig.

If it wasn't so early in the day I'd give it a go!

Di B mentions it was loved by "non whisky drinkers."

Last year i introduced a brand new bottle of Ardbeg 10 to a small party of "non whisky drinkers" at my house...the bottle lasted 45 minutes!

not the traditional "first time malt" but I was flabbergasted by the response!

Well, kettle's on, but methinks the only thing I'll be adding to this coffee is...more coffee!
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Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:24 pm

I concur with Aidan. Originally Irish coffee was made with Powers pure pot still.

Here is the Original and definitive recipe and a famous face .....

http://www.irishcoffeefestival.com/recipe.html

browse further to read a concise history.
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Postby JimbobOfTheNUWS » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:25 pm

Reggaeblues wrote:
Well, kettle's on, but methinks the only thing I'll be adding to this coffee is...more coffee!


You're just not committed to the cause :D

I tried to keep an open mind as far as the peated whiskies in coffee thing is concerned but it just doesn't fit in with the irish coffee formula. Ardbeg goes okay in hot chocolate though. Maybe that corresonds to the dark chocolate/ islay malt thing that a lot of people advocate.

Ardbeg Uigidail goes well with a glass. Most of the time nothing else is required :)
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Postby Di Blasi » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:58 pm

Great link irishwhiskeychaser, thanks for it!
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Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:03 pm

Oh I forgot more interesting facts from the famous Buena Vista in San Fran .....


http://www.thebuenavista.com/
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Postby Di Blasi » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:57 pm

Another great link irishwhiskeychaser!! A visit there proves they line up and serve them as if we're celebrating!!! A must see and do when visiting San Francisco!!
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Postby bamber » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:58 pm

I use any Irish Blend, which has potstill influence. Usually Jameson NAS does the trick.
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Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:15 pm

Di Blasi wrote:A visit there proves they line up and serve them as if we're celebrating!!! A must see and do when visiting San Francisco!!



I've been just to have a look and get a bottle of their own labled Irish Whiskey. Easy to get to too just hop on the cable car to the pier area and it is opposite the very last stop on the right corner looking back up the hill. Lovely old style bar with a decent view of the bay. As you say worth a visit do nice lunch too ....
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Postby arnehd » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:24 pm

Not that I could ever afford it (or even if I could , wouldn't make it ) , but for those who don't know what to do with their money(see Brewster's Millions ): A nice big pot of Jamaica Blue mountain coffee and the ardbeg 65( or maybe something in the close range from another region ) .
May the afficionados forgive for me the idea alone!

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Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:25 pm

bamber wrote:I use any Irish Blend, which has potstill influence. Usually Jameson NAS does the trick.


In all fairness you are spot on.... any Irish blend is usually ok as it is the smoothness of the 'typical Irish style' :roll: that suits the Irish Coffee which scotch does not really.
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Postby Mr Fjeld » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:36 pm

I have used Famous Grouse several times (almost all of the bottle) with good results. Bowmore Surf was very nice indeed - although that one ended its life with press filter coffee! I'm not so sure the most important thing is what kind of whisky you use but how you whip the cream is more important and the fact that it tastes much better if one doesn't mix the cream with the coffee.
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Postby Aidan » Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:59 pm

Di Blasi wrote:Paddy I think I heard was the sales guy travelling around selling Powers years back, and so people started asking for Paddy's rather than Powers, thus the name and birth of that whiskey.
As for the Scotch coffee, yes, a great combo with the Ardbeg! The yearly, (almost 35 years strong now!!) New Year's Eve turkey feast at my girlfriend's parent's house a few years ago almost ended in disaster, no Irish Whiskey for the Irish Coffee! "Not a problem, use the Ardbeg," I insisted! We were all surprised to see it work perfectly, and all enjoyed the smoky version even though they aren't whisky drinkers.


Hi Di Blasi

Paddy Flaherty was a salesman for Cork Distillers. He sold their whiskey, rather than Powers. Some people call Powers three swallows, because you were meant to drink a glass of it in three goes. There's a representation of three swallows on the neck of the bottle.
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Postby Reggaeblues » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:03 am

jimbo! not committed eh? well, it was midday and I had a wheel to get behind!

Nonetheless your accusation stung me into action and i had give it a try. Even tho' i had no cream.( I'm sorta vegan and soymilk doesn't whip well I find.)

But, even minus cream, I think I discovered enough to conclude , as you do, that Ardbeg 10, like Uigeadail "goes well with a glass...nothing else is required."
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Postby Jan » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:25 am

Interesting to find out that in Ireland you all use Powers. This brand is virtually unknown here in Denmark - only available in specialist shops, while Tullamore is stocked at every supermarket.

Thanks for the links IWC...
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Postby Aidan » Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:47 am

Powers is the no. 1 selling whiskey in Ireland, although it will soon be taken over by Jameson. This is no mean feat, since Irish Distillers put all their effort into promoting Jameson and almost nothing into promoting Powers.

I was in a bar a few weeks ago drinking Powers, and I thought to myself that I could leave all other whiskies and stick to this one if I had to.

It's changed significantly over the years, and while the older versions are to be missed, the new one is still very good. For me, that is.

I'm not a fan of the Tullamore Dew, but the 12 yr old is nice.
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Postby Paul A Jellis » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:49 pm

Given the choice I'd use Jamesons, but I'd leave out the cream and sugar and probably the coffee as well!

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Postby maverick » Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:10 am

The only Irish coffee I've had where I actually knew what whiskey was used was a delicious one with the regular jameson. It was the best I've ever had. But I also believe that the person who made it must have had something to do with it tasting so good. I've tried to make one but it just doesn't taste the same.
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Postby Reggaeblues » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:43 am

Maverick wrote:

"I also believe that the person who made it must have had something to do with it tasting so good."

What was her name?!?
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Postby Di Blasi » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:45 am

Exactly! Even if you follow the recipe to a T, no saying it will be good! It definitely must be someone who knows what their doing! And if she has a nice name, that too helps!
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