Ardbeg Renaissance, at 55.9% ABV

[Newbie]

From a marketing perpective it would be foolish not to distinguish the new ten from the old ten.

[Spirit of Islay]

I've never seen anything anywhere indicating that Ardbeg intend to release a "new TEN", except in the runaway speculations of forum posters. Can anyone provide a solid citation?

Perhaps you've being reading the wrong forum........

[Deactivated Member]

I have indeed--all that speculation was here.

My "best judgment" would also be that there would be a general brand makeover, but I'm keenly aware that my best judgment is, after all, nothing more than a guess. This is how false rumors get started an propagated, from people jumping to conclusions based on their "best judgment", and others taking speculation as fact. I had seen nothing remotely official on this, and wanted to know if anyone had. Dr Bill's word to Les is sufficient for me, too, unless I hear otherwise. Even "official" word should be taken with a grain of salt sometimes--believe it when you see it.

Did you know they're discontinuing the Balvenie 10?

[les taylor]

I have indeed--all that speculation was here.

My "best judgment" would also be that there would be a general brand makeover, but I'm keenly aware that my best judgment is, after all, nothing more than a guess. This is how false rumors get started an propagated, from people jumping to conclusions based on their "best judgment", and others taking speculation as fact. I had seen nothing remotely official on this, and wanted to know if anyone had. Dr Bill's word to Les is sufficient for me, too, unless I hear otherwise. Even "official" word should be taken with a grain of salt sometimes--believe it when you see it.


Mr T just to add if you have a bottle of Almost there. On the box at the front near the top. Is the countdown from 1998 to 2008 Ten year Old.

Did you know they're discontinuing the Balvenie 10?

[les taylor]

I have indeed--all that speculation was here.

My "best judgment" would also be that there would be a general brand makeover, but I'm keenly aware that my best judgment is, after all, nothing more than a guess. This is how false rumors get started an propagated, from people jumping to conclusions based on their "best judgment", and others taking speculation as fact. I had seen nothing remotely official on this, and wanted to know if anyone had. Dr Bill's word to Les is sufficient for me, too, unless I hear otherwise. Even "official" word should be taken with a grain of salt sometimes--believe it when you see it.

Did you know they're discontinuing the Balvenie 10?

Mr T just to add if you have a bottle of Almost there. On the box at the front near the top. Is the countdown from 1998 to 2008 Ten year Old.

[Newbie]

Just went to have a look at my Almost There. Its true it does end in 2008 with a ten years old.

But it doesn't say a 'new ten year old'. You don't want to speculate and start propagating a false rumor now do you les

[les taylor]

Personally I know what I know. If anyone wants to believe what I say that's fine if they don't that fine as well. Just wait for the summer. Then all will be revealed.

[Spirit of Islay]

I have indeed--all that speculation was here.

You couldn't have !
From what i remember you were boycotting the forum ?

[les taylor]

Just went to have a look at my Almost There. Its true it does end in 2008 with a ten years old.

But it doesn't say a 'new ten year old'. You don't want to speculate and start propagating a false rumor now do you les

No you don't want to do that Les.
And apparently that's what you will be doing. I heard it from a ghost who left these forums some time ago vowing never to come back....so it must be true

Nick you're a very naughty boy.

[Spirit of Islay]

All what will be revealed Les ?

[les taylor]

I've said enough already.

[Spirit of Islay]

Whoa ! Idle chatter Alert !!!!

[Di Blasi]

I have also heard that Ardbeg will not only repackage their entire range of bottlings and presentations, (that's right, no more green bottles!) but they'll also drop their prices tremendously in order to "crash" all of the crazy speculation and prices their bottlings are going for. This will also allow everyone out there to drink only Ardbeg and enjoy what we've all been ranting and raving about. That also means the double barrel will be more appropriately priced at a more convenient 1229£ even. New releases will be 19.99£ for 6-10 years old, 24.99£ for 11-18 years old, and 31.99£ for 18-25 years old, and finally, 49.99£ for any whisky older than 25 years old. This is part of their new plan for 2008, yet to be revealed. But it will be at the Islay Whisky Festival. Spirit of Islay could probably verify all of this as he too received the same memo directly from the indirect source I received it from. Bye bye

[les taylor]

I have also heard that Ardbeg will not only repackage their entire range of bottlings and presentations, (that's right, no more green bottles!) but they'll also drop their prices tremendously in order to "crash" all of the crazy speculation and prices their bottlings are going for. This will also allow everyone out there to drink only Ardbeg and enjoy what we've all been ranting and raving about. That also means the double barrel will be more appropriately priced at a more convenient 1229£ even. New releases will be 19.99£ for 6-10 years old, 24.99£ for 11-18 years old, and 31.99£ for 18-25 years old, and finally, 49.99£ for any whisky older than 25 years old. This is part of their new plan for 2008, yet to be revealed. But it will be at the Islay Whisky Festival. Spirit of Islay could probably verify all of this as he too received the same memo directly from the indirect source I received it from. Bye bye

Jonathan that's amazing news. Thanks for sharing that with us. I guess that'll knock the bottom out of the ebay market.

[Spirit of Islay]

Aah...... You hear the Voices Too ?

[Di Blasi]

Actually not nearly enough to quiet those voices! And to top it off, the Norwegian bureaucracy is driving me nuts!!! Ardbeg, help!!

[Deactivated Member]

I heard it from a ghost who left these forums some time ago vowing never to come back....

Now see, that's exactly what I mean. I never vowed never to come back. I said I couldn't participate with any sense of honor or dignity. As the Latin motto below attests, my participation here now is entirely without honor or dignity. I always feel so dirty after posting here...excuse, me, I'm going to go take a shower.

[Deactivated Member]

My thinking is that this forum is very much poorer without the likes of Tattie, Jan, Jeroen, Crieftan et al. A forum needs all sorts to work - and a whisky forum needs a healthy mix of those who know their whiskies and those who can create the traffic to keep things interesting. Two forums split as they are means both of them suffer. I hope that the exiles will feel able to come back, and I hope that if or when they do, they will be welcomed with a spirit of generosity.

[Ganga]

I will second that feeling Nick. However, I believe there is still a place for the other forum. We should not feel oblidged to frequent one over the other. In other words, people here should feel free to visit Jeroen's site as well.

[Newbie]

I have also heard that Ardbeg will not only repackage their entire range of bottlings and presentations, (that's right, no more green bottles!) but they'll also drop their prices tremendously in order to "crash" all of the crazy speculation and prices their bottlings are going for. This will also allow everyone out there to drink only Ardbeg and enjoy what we've all been ranting and raving about. That also means the double barrel will be more appropriately priced at a more convenient 1229£ even. New releases will be 19.99£ for 6-10 years old, 24.99£ for 11-18 years old, and 31.99£ for 18-25 years old, and finally, 49.99£ for any whisky older than 25 years old. This is part of their new plan for 2008, yet to be revealed. But it will be at the Islay Whisky Festival. Spirit of Islay could probably verify all of this as he too received the same memo directly from the indirect source I received it from. Bye bye

Is it the 1st of April in Norway already?

Is this for real? Does Ardbeg have enough stocks of whisky to widely release anything older than a 10 year
old?

You pulling my leg Di Blasi? I was planning to buy some more Ardbeg but if this is the case I'll wait!

[Spirit of Islay]

My thinking is that this forum is very much poorer without the likes of Tattie, Jan, Jeroen, Crieftan et al. A forum needs all sorts to work - and a whisky forum needs a healthy mix of those who know their whiskies and those who can create the traffic to keep things interesting. Two forums split as they are means both of them suffer. I hope that the exiles will feel able to come back, and I hope that if or when they do, they will be welcomed with a spirit of generosity.

Why is it that this subject keeps coming back round ?
If i remember rightly none of the forum members forced this list of people to stop posting , they stopped of their own accord , it was expressed at the time they were welcome back .

a whisky forum needs a healthy mix of those who know their whiskies and those who can create the traffic to keep things interesting.

So basically this forum isn't interesting without these people ? I think that's a bit of an insult to the current set of posters , i personally think this forum is going great guns , it's not full of what other people would call anorak talk , it's got a good mix of humour , banter and information .
Why if Mr TH feels participation here is now entirely without honour or dignity and he always feel so dirty after posting here , does he keep returning ? I said after getting sick of something that was happening on another forum that i wouldn't return and haven't !

So i must say on the whole i disagree with your opening statement Nick , Sorry !

[Mr Fjeld]

Well said Gordon! This forum has never been better in my opinion. I also think it speaks well of all the members not to voice any bad words or harsh opinions on those who have come back.

[Deactivated Member]

Why is it that this subject keeps coming back round ?

Beats me. I was posting here peaceably when I was subjected to an unprovoked snark attack. Seems there are some who can dish it out, but not take it.

Nick's point has, as usual, been missed. I, for one, thank him for his thoughtfulness and his effort to keep the peace. Those who jump on him for doing so should be ashamed.

[Deactivated Member]

Oh well, at least now we all know where we stand.

[Muskrat Portage]

Bruce:
I too am pleased to see you posting here. Now, I have a query... this post is about Ardbeg renaissance. My question is, how many different types of Ardbeg are out there? I get the feeling there must be at least a hundred from everyone's comments throught the forums.

Around here I only get to see one or two and am the poorer for it.

Muskrat

[Ganga]

There also seems to be multiple LOTI, three Provenance, Very Young, Still Young, Almost There, Oogie, Beist, Ten, and a bunch of single casks.

[Deactivated Member]

Also - Mor, Oogling (and other Committee bottles), 17, 1977 (and heaps of other 1970s bottles), Kildalton 1980, Kildalton 1981 (in minis as part of Peat Pack). There must be others too.

[Lawrence]

There are some Ardbeg's listed here in his collection;

http://www.internetv.biz/bero/mycollection.asp?colpag=

[Ganga]

Also, it should be noted that we've pretty much kept to the OBs and not delved into the many bottlings from Signatory, Douglas Laing and other independent bottlers.

[Deactivated Member]

There are so many IBs that you could never keep track of them all. I think most people don't count IBs when they ask how many expressions there are of a given whisky - unless it is a super rare whisky such as Ben Wyvis or the legendary Lomond.

[Lawrence]

There are so many IBs that you could never keep track of them all. I think most people don't count IBs when they ask how many expressions there are of a given whisky - unless it is a super rare whisky such as Ben Wyvis or the legendary Lomond.

Quite correct, nobody is going to turn down a Maltmill because it's an IB.

[Aidan]

This mightn't be the best place to bring this up, but does anyone know what kind of whiskys go into the current 10 year old? What ages etc. I take it that it's all bourbon barrel whisky?

[Di Blasi]

I just got word from the importer it arrived in Norway yesterday, finally available here! Looking forward to getting myself one and for Cafe Herman!

[Ryguy]

I just got word from the importer it arrived in Norway yesterday, finally available here! Looking forward to getting myself one and for Cafe Herman!

Very Nice Purchase Di Blasi! Once you try it (if you haven't already) you'll definitely want more! Excellent stuff IMO!

[Di Blasi]

I just got word from the importer it arrived in Norway yesterday, finally available here! Looking forward to getting myself one and for Cafe Herman!

Very Nice Purchase Di Blasi! Once you try it (if you haven't already) you'll definitely want more! Excellent stuff IMO!

Thanks ryguy! But it's just the importer that has just gotten it in, I haven't gotten a bottle yet. But I'll probably special order myself a bottle, to start! Can't wait to taste it!