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LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

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Lagavulin DE
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Caol Ila DE
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Talisker DE
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LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby v1p » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:55 pm

Which one do you prefer? Why?
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby Mr Fjeld » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:56 pm

I haven't opened my Lagavulin DE yet but the Caol Ila DE is very interesting and weird; winey and very sweet but still unmistakably a Caol Ila with its smoke and oiliness. Talisker DE is simply trying too hard and not in any way special imo. Others may disagree though.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby kyorke1 » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:44 pm

I can't vote either, the Lagavulin DE 1991 is fantastic, no doubt about that. I agree with Mr Fjeld on the Talisker, I have the 1993, it just doesn't work for me. I would have said that it would be the same story for the Caol Ila, I could be wrong.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby bjorn » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:58 pm

Apparently nobody has tried all three, including me. Like Mr. Fjeld I have a Lagavulin DE (91) which I haven't opened yet and was similarly unimpressed by the Talisker (92.) I would like to try the Caol Ila, but I'm not mad enough about the distillery to buy a bottle. Also, kyorke, I dug your signature, it hit close to home. Every now and then I have to force my hand, though, and open the pricey buggers. It's our cross to bear

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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby ResIpsa539 » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:00 pm

I am lucky enough to have had all three of these; and I currently have the Laga and Caol Ila in my collection. By far, these are my 3 favorite DEs, having also tried the Dalwhinnie, Glenkinchie, and Cragganmore. The thing that I love about the Laga, CI, and Talisker is that the wine-cask influence compliments the whisky, without overpowering it.

If I had to choose one over the others I'd go with the Laga, just because it's such a rare treat to have something so peaty yet sweet at the same time. Wish I could give more definitive answers...but I don't think you can really go wrong with any of these.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby pkt77242 » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:36 am

I have bottles of the laga and tali and had a dram of the caol ila at a bar. My fav is the laga but all three range from very good (ci) to great (laga). So you can't go wrong no matter which one you choose.

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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby Rob Allanson » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:33 am

Interestingly you might enjoy the next themed tasting in the magazine. Dave and I are working through this year's DE's v the originals. Looking at what the extra maturation brings out, hides etc.
Will keep you posted - am only half way through at the mo.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby The Third Dram » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:04 pm

I have given a slight edge to the Lagavulin over both the Caol Ila and Talisker, but would qualify this assessment by stating that I believe my preference is based on the intrinsic traits of the distillate more so than on the wine cask treatment.

In each case, I feel there is a contrasting flavour aspect present (between the distillery style and the cask finishing process) rather than a full integration between the innate style of the spirit and what the finishing process brings to the whiskies. I've variously described this as the "yin-yang" factor and "makeup". This back-and-forth flavour element can be, admittedly, a bit of fun to taste. Yet, in the final analysis, it speaks (at least to me) of the inherent limitations of wine cask finishing in terms of achieving a harmonious taste spectrum in a whisky.

Another matter worth noting is the alteration in the total maturation period (to varying degrees) these whiskies have undergone from their inceptions through to the present time. For instance, some of the original Lagavulin DE releases approached 20 years of age, whereas current versions hover much closer to the 'standard' 16-year stipulation of the regular edition. (The age adjustment for the Talisker DE has been less dramatic.)

Interestingly enough, I actually concocted a 'Lagavulin cocktail', prior to the first release of that distillery's DE bottling, consisting of a tiny droplet of Pedro Ximenex Sherry (in my case, Gonzalez Byass Noe) at the bottom of a healthy dram's worth of Lagavulin 16 Year Old. When the initial Lagavulin DE appeared in the marketplace, I took note of just how closely my 'cocktail' paralleled the official release taste-wise (largely due, I believe, to the fact that the Sherry itself underwent significant wood maturation, and thus complemented the oak-derived aspects of the whisky quite seamlessly).

Bottom line... As good and as enticing as many of the wood-finished single malts available undeniably are, I more often than not tend to prefer those wine-cask-aged whiskies that have spent their entire maturation periods in a single type of cask.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby v1p » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:08 pm

Rob Allanson wrote:Interestingly you might enjoy the next themed tasting in the magazine. Dave and I are working through this year's DE's v the originals. Looking at what the extra maturation brings out, hides etc.
Will keep you posted - am only half way through at the mo.


Wonderful idea, Mr. Allanson!
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby peat-chaser » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:10 pm

I´m also lucky enough to know all 3 of them. In my opinion the CI is completely impossible, the wine doesn´t match the peat and I always had a strong dislike of this malt, nevertheless I gave my assistence to the friend how owned the bottle. He didn´t like it too.
The Talisker DE is quite nice, may be a bit young with 13 years, but a fine dram.
The Laga DE, I always call the best finish of all!!! (I´m not a friend of this finishing-insanity, well, some are nice.) But it´s disgusting that the prices are rising rapidly while the used PX-casks aren´t replaced (or maybe not enough of them) because of economical reasons .....
So it´s still very good, but it won´t become better or atleast continue in quality.

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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby scotchdrinker » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:17 pm

I didn't vote cause I haven't had any of the m but if anyone can tell me what DE and CI stand for in the statements of the whiskies I would appreciate it.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby v1p » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:27 pm

scotchdrinker wrote:I didn't vote cause I haven't had any of the m but if anyone can tell me what DE and CI stand for in the statements of the whiskies I would appreciate it.


DE = Distillers Edition
CI = Caol Ila
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby scotchdrinker » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:30 pm

Thank you.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby Ganga » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:36 am

The only DE I will ever re-purchase is the Talisker.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby Knolly » Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:53 am

AlanLaz wrote:I am lucky enough to have had all three of these; and I currently have the Laga and Caol Ila in my collection. By far, these are my 3 favorite DEs, having also tried the Dalwhinnie, Glenkinchie, and Cragganmore. The thing that I love about the Laga, CI, and Talisker is that the wine-cask influence compliments the whisky, without overpowering it.

If I had to choose one over the others I'd go with the Laga, just because it's such a rare treat to have something so peaty yet sweet at the same time. Wish I could give more definitive answers...but I don't think you can really go wrong with any of these.


I have to agree with this: the Laga DE is my favourite, followed by the CI and the Talisker. However, the other three in the range don't impress me at all: the Oban is a complete disaster IMHO and both more expensive and far less enjoyable than the standard 14yo.

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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby Reggaeblues » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:32 am

scotchdrinker wrote:I didn't vote cause I haven't had any of the m but if anyone can tell me what DE and CI stand for in the statements of the whiskies I would appreciate it.


DE = Dreadfully Expensive(but Decidedly Excellent)
CI = Chronically Irrestistable
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby v1p » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:55 pm

I bought Talisker DE 1993 for £40 and will soon open it.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby v1p » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:29 pm

v1p wrote:I bought Talisker DE 1993 for £40 and will soon open it.


Marvellous! Definitely the best I have ever had and closest to my ideal for whisky. It has the extra richness and sweetness that Laga 16 lacks.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby v1p » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:51 pm

v1p wrote:
v1p wrote:I bought Talisker DE 1993 for £40 and will soon open it.


Marvellous! Definitely the best I have ever had and closest to my ideal for whisky. It has the extra richness and sweetness that Laga 16 lacks.


I really don't know what is happening with this bottle, but the last night it was much lighter/watery and the pepper was all gone. Quite disappointing. Tonigh I'm gonnа give it a new chance.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby v1p » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:13 pm

Now it's fine again, but definitely on the light side. Maybe tab too light for an islayman.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby v1p » Thu May 14, 2009 12:01 am

I finally opened my Lagavulin DE 1991 and it's very fine and delicious. Way better than Talisker DE, which is too weak for my taste.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby Knolly » Fri May 15, 2009 7:58 am

Recently i've been drinking a friend's Caol Ila DE (yes, she's a good friend!) and while I still really like the Laga DE, i have to say that the CI DE is certainly very, very yummy. Is it complex and sophisticated? I don't think so, but I do think that it's an easy going dram that's easy to drink :) It has definitely become my favourite of the official distillery bottlings.

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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby v1p » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:20 pm

After trying all three, I think that Caol Ila DE is the best.

Long live Caol Ila Distillery!
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby lexvo » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:58 pm

I have tasted all three and finished a bottle of Lagavulin DE three weeks ago.

I prefer the Lagavulin DE because - in my opinion - it is the most balanced and complex of the three. The Caol Ila and Talisker are very nice also but not as interesting as the Lagavulin.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby v1p » Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:50 pm

v1p wrote:After trying all three, I think that Caol Ila DE is the best.

Long live Caol Ila Distillery!


After finishing the bottle I changed my opinion and now I think that Laga DE is superior.
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Re: LAGAVULIN DE VS CAOL ILA DE VS TALISKER DE

Postby smn » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:06 pm

About a year ago I had these 3 in a side-by-side tasting in a whisky specialist pub and slightly preferred the Lagavulin with Talisker following closely on the second place.

But since then, something weird has happened with my taste buds and I just don't seem to like Lagavulin anymore. Tried several times, several distillates, it just doesn't work anymore.

So I voted for the Talisker DE, which I seem to keep re-stocking.
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