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is the whisk(e)y industry pretentious?

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Whisk(e)y industry - pretentious?

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is the whisk(e)y industry pretentious?

Postby Marvin » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:21 pm

Do you think they like to make it more mysterious and expensive than it really is?

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Postby Di Blasi » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:40 pm

Pretentious??!
No way!!!!!!!!!!!! The ones actually working in or for the distillery have all been extremely down to earth and very humble. I have never been told "my whisky is the best," or "there whisky isn't good!" I've been told by many they of course are partial to their own distillery's whiskies, but are very open about drinking other whiskies too. About the mystery behind it, and the price, it's called marketing. The people in the office are usually the ones probably to blame for that. But it's because of competition and it being an international business it must be driven by something. Pretentious, never! My visit to Glengoyne this August was such a nice easy going and informative tour, with nothing but humble, proud, hard working people loving what they do!
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Postby Marvin » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:45 pm

I find the term "expression" pretentious.
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Postby Aidan » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:13 pm

Marvin wrote:I find the term "expression" pretentious.


Yes, you're right. I use it sometimes, but it is pretentious.

The industry isn't as pretentious as some of the people who drink it, I think. Tales of people being moved to tears when trying a "complex" whisky. These people have serious problems, in my opinion.
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Postby Di Blasi » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:43 pm

Aidan wrote:
Marvin wrote:I find the term "expression" pretentious.


Yes, you're right. I use it sometimes, but it is pretentious.

The industry isn't as pretentious as some of the people who drink it, I think. Tales of people being moved to tears when trying a "complex" whisky. These people have serious problems, in my opinion.


Yes! Some of the people that drink it definitely are, great point! Gosh, it's just whisky! Yes, damn good whisky, but heck, life is bigger than that. But in all fields and hobbies, there are always wacko people that take it a bit too far.
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Is Marvin overly critical, or just argumentative?

Postby Deactivated Member » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:00 pm

Seems all your posts are pretty negative and suspicious in tone, and come to me at least accross as if you feel that A) the whole whisky industry is out to cheat, lie, fool us, and B) try to do their utmost to deliver to us consumers poor whisky.

Do you LIKE even whisky? Have you ever gotten caramel or other type of poisoning from whisky?

Just came to mind..and I could not resist.
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Postby Marvin » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:19 pm

No, i just like to raise some points that come into my mind. I do like whisky, best I've tried is Highland park, but that was a good fews years ago, the more recent bottle of HP I had didnt taste as good.

I'm not a whisky fanatic, but I find the whole scene quite interesting to observe.
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Is Marvin trying to stir up a storm in our drams?

Postby Deactivated Member » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:42 pm

Hmm...observe, or attempt to stir up things? :twisted:
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Re: Is Marvin trying to stir up a storm in our drams?

Postby Marvin » Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:03 am

M.R.J. wrote:Hmm...observe, or attempt to stir up things? :twisted:


I can do both. I do try to make a point beyond just stirring things up though. Open your mind a bit. Think outside the box.
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Postby Di Blasi » Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:04 am

Marvin wrote:No, i just like to raise some points that come into my mind. I do like whisky, best I've tried is Highland park, but that was a good fews years ago, the more recent bottle of HP I had didnt taste as good.

I'm not a whisky fanatic, but I find the whole scene quite interesting to observe.


I think this is an interesting topic for discussion! As for Marvin's statement that he preferred Highland Park some years ago, that could be because they've changed it a bit, or perhaps Marvin has changed a bit over the years.
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Postby GraemePhil » Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:30 am

Not sure an entire industry can be pretentious.
And it is apparent you've never met anyone who works in the industry, or you wouldn't ask that question.
I've met a lot of pretentious whisky drinkers though...
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Postby Lawrence » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:06 am

Aidan wrote: Tales of people being moved to tears when trying a "complex" whisky. These people have serious problems, in my opinion.


Don't talk about me like that Aidan.



:wink: :D
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Postby Aidan » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:32 am

Lawrence wrote:
Aidan wrote: Tales of people being moved to tears when trying a "complex" whisky. These people have serious problems, in my opinion.


Don't talk about me like that Aidan.



:wink: :D


I'm assuming the this never actually happens, unless they're watching It's a Wonderful Life at the same time.

I don't doubt that people can genuinely feel very strongly about whisky, and that's great. But some people just put it on.
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Postby Marvin » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:44 am

GraemePhil wrote:Not sure an entire industry can be pretentious.
And it is apparent you've never met anyone who works in the industry, or you wouldn't ask that question.
I've met a lot of pretentious whisky drinkers though...


I consider whisky reviewers and regular drinkers to be part of the industry too. I dont think the people working in the distilleries are the sum of the industry, do you?
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Postby Aidan » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:55 am

All the people who work in distilleries are wiley old characters with a quick wit and a story at the tip of their tongue. This too is untrue. Some of them are just normal people who are no more entertaining than your average accountant.
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Postby Mr Fjeld » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:21 am

I guess you can find the odd character at most distilleries muttering a curse every monday morning as well...
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Re: Is Marvin trying to stir up a storm in our drams?

Postby Paul A Jellis » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:34 am

Marvin wrote:
M.R.J. wrote:Hmm...observe, or attempt to stir up things? :twisted:


I can do both. I do try to make a point beyond just stirring things up though. Open your mind a bit. Think outside the box.


The whisky industry is not as pretensious as that statement is condescending!

Cheers, Paul
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Re: Is Marvin trying to stir up a storm in our drams?

Postby Marvin » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:23 pm

Paul A Jellis wrote:
Marvin wrote:
M.R.J. wrote:Hmm...observe, or attempt to stir up things? :twisted:


I can do both. I do try to make a point beyond just stirring things up though. Open your mind a bit. Think outside the box.


The whisky industry is not as pretensious as that statement is condescending!

Cheers, Paul


Oh really.
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Re: Is Marvin trying to stir up a storm in our drams?

Postby Drrich1965 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:31 pm

Marvin wrote:
Paul A Jellis wrote:
Marvin wrote:
M.R.J. wrote:Hmm...observe, or attempt to stir up things? :twisted:


I can do both. I do try to make a point beyond just stirring things up though. Open your mind a bit. Think outside the box.


The whisky industry is not as pretensious as that statement is condescending!

Cheers, Paul


Oh really.


I would have to concur; that was my reaction as well. It was as if you were saying- "your minds are closed, and I am here to open them up." It is a bit presumptuous. Take that feedback for what it is worth, and thanks for your participation.

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