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Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:25 pm

Hey, I'm getting some creamy peanut butter now!
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:31 pm

Added some water to the OF 12. Hmm, intense. Mint is strong. Maybe even a hint of sweet, cigar tobacco. Definitely red delicious apples. Honey mixed with grains. Palate is now very smooth. Honey roasted peanuts, cereals, marzipan.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:32 pm

Haha, I would never accuse you of stealing my notes, C57! It reassures me when I see you've found the same flavours :)
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:33 pm

Speaking of Willie, will he be joining in at some point? I really look forward to seeing his point of view on these!
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:37 pm

Well I'm down to some WL Weller. Pouring it now.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:42 pm

Collector57 wrote:
Ganga wrote:Speaking of Willie, will he be joining in at some point? I really look forward to seeing his point of view on these!

I believe he's at the Leith Vaults with SoI tonight so won't be joining. Or if he does it will be late and incoherent :P :D (only joking Willie!)
Late's pretty early from my stand point! :lol:
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:43 pm

Last one for tonight...

Old Fitzgerald 12 yo

Old Fitzgerlad
Very Special Old Fitzgerald
Immediately a swift whiff of glue and cucumber. Is that right? Perhaps I'm broken ...OK, now I've left it to stand a while and it's more what I'd expect. Or probably more likely, my nose is working again! There we go, honey, mixed fruits, brazil nuts.
Quite resinous. Bitter dark chocolate, coffee and chilli. As it develops, liquorice and damp rolling tobacco
Gets herby like lemon thyme then perfectly bitter and drying. Cinnamon sticks. Also something medicinal like toothache remedies (oil of cloves).
This is lovely. Big bittersweet flavours enveloping me like a big warm blanket.
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Mmm, a good end-of-the-night drink.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:47 pm

OF 12 is really nice isn't it TS? :)
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:52 pm

Weller 10

Weller
Centennial 10
Truckload of caramel, rye and straw, vanilla, coconut
Rootbeer?! Incorporates the caramel and vanilla flavors. Little bit of minty Certs. Rye on the backend of things.
Really starts and finishes with that rootbeer flavor. Long, warming finish
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:55 pm

Ganga wrote:OF 12 is really nice isn't it TS? :)

Yep, I really enjoyed that :D It was a nice contrast after so many sweet drinks too - it seemed to have fewer of those sugary notes (toffee/fudge/caramel/maple syrup etc) that so many of the others have had.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:56 pm

Hello fellow bourbon drinkers. :)

Starting with EC12:
n: vanilla, caramel, toffee, rye, wax, chocolate, after the corn and rye more malty tastes seem to emerge
t: vanilla, oranges, tea
f: woody oranges
c: nice to smell how the nose develops. there is just enough rye in this one to restrain the sweets but not to much to let the rye come out to much
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:57 pm

Evening Ras!

George T. Stagg 2007 (72.4%)

Nose: Marzipan and nuts. Fruitcake, rum 'n' raisin chocolate. Hints of wood polish and antiseptic cream. A little citrussy (mainly lemon). Mentholated. Coffee-flavoured chocolate liqueurs. Water creates a slightly dusty profile but also something akin to Cherry Bakewell tarts (the iced ones), Bounty bars (coconut-centred chocolate bars) and basil leaves.

Palate: Drying! And too hot at full strength to hold in the mouth for more than a few seconds, but I do get notes of rum 'n' raisin. Water needed, methinks... Water calms it down a lot and makes it very velvety, indeed revealing rum 'n' raisin and also a little menthol.

Finish: Sweet and mentholated. Marzipan. Water cools it somewhat but doesn't reveal anything extra.


The neat nose is absolutely astounding, but I just cannot drink this undiluted - it's too hot! Water makes it incredibly soft and, dare I say it, drinkable, but it's still quite hot in the mouth. This is an astonishing whiskey and, were it not for the ridiculous price it goes for in the UK, one I'd have in my cabinet at all times - with a water jug at its side, of course!
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:57 pm

Hi Ras!
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:59 pm

Welcome Ras! I've had an enjoyable morning/afternoon with Treacle, C57 and the Tross. Will definitely keep you company as you try yours.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:03 am

Well that's me done, I'm off. Thanks all for the company, I've enjoyed it. I look forward to returning tomorrow with some more, and looking through the rest of the notes here :thumbsup: G'night!
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:03 am

Nick, now that you know what rye tastes like, you might be able to start identifying it in the bourbons. Each distillery seems to use a different quantity of rye in their mix.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:04 am

Slainte Treacle. Great notes. I look forward to reading the rest of your notes.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:11 am

EC 18
n: hmmm, like old Longmorn. christmas cake, oranges, wood, beeswax, chocolate, paint, vanilla,
t: oranges with mint and chocolate
f: taste lingers on, oranges become marmelade
c: nose is great, after that thing go down

Bye Treacle, thanks for your notes and samples of course.

Nick, the rye came from me. You came to the same conclusion as me: rye smells and tastes like rye. I'm not sure if I can get used to it.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:28 am

Good night Nick. Thanks for all the wonderfully reading. Ridgemont Reserve for you.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:33 am

Old Overholt straight rye whiskey 40% 4yo
n: rye, apples, raisins, camenbert
t: rye, more rye, raisins
f: short with rye
c: more interesting than I remembered

G'night Nick
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:45 am

Knob Creek 9yo 50%(MikeyMad)
n: rye, vanilla, fruits,
t: strong with its 50%, weetabix, pear
f: marmelade
c: tasting a lot of rye, probably because of the rye whiskey I had before this one
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:58 am

Jack Daniel single barrel 45% 8-1176 (TheTross)
n: acetone, very clean, glue, getting flashback here to the days when I was glueing model planes together. vanilla, almonds, white wine(Pinot Grigio)
t: rye, liquorice, sugar candy, rosewater
f: citrus, middle long
c: forget about the regular JD, skip Gentleman Jack and continue directly to single barrel.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:07 am

Yes, JD SB is very good isn't it Ras?

Currently on Old Overholt - notes to follow shortly...
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:18 am

Old Overholt 4yo (40%)

Nose: Stewed apples, hints of vanilla essence, yeast. Citrus (orange and lemon). Quite creamy. Cheese of some description - possibly creamy blue Stilton, though Ras' note of Camembert might be more accurate.

Palate: Ah, so that's what rye tastes like! Reminds me of Cool-flavoured Doritos chips - even though I know they're made from corn. Quite a dry taste, actually.

Finish: Rye!! A little vanilla and possibly cheese and stewed apple again.


Not sure if I like rye whiskey or not judging from this. The nose was nice enough, but the palate was far too simple. Still, it was a privilege to taste it - thanks very much Ras!
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:29 am

Virginia Gentleman 45%
small batch bourbon produced by A. Smith Bowman Distillery
n: vanilla, toffee, oranges
t: butterscotch, oranges
f: oranges
c: somehow I like this one a lot. amazing value.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:40 am

The JD is indeed very nice Stuart.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:24 am

Right, that's me done for the night. I still have a sample of Georgia Moon to do notes for but I'm afraid I'm suffering from palate fatigue, so will do notes for that in a few days. Must say I've enjoyed this bourbon tasting, opened my eyes a little :)
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:56 am

Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10yo 45%
n: wet dog, suddenly easy to link this to rye. sawdust, getting creamy, chocolate, pine tree, whiff of eggs
t: maybe a bit thin, lemon, candy
f: lemon...
c: nose is great,

Getting tired, more tomorrow
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:11 am

Sipping some Old Fitgerald Very Special 12yo and this one is truely special. Thank you for this one too Treaclesponge.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Wave » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:44 am

Thought I'd come and join in the fun.

Noah's Mill 15yo Bourbon 57.15% ABV

N: Heavy Bourbon notes, dark chocolate, new sawdust
P: Thick and mouth-coating, actually chewy! Honey and heavily candied fruits
F:Long with a satisfying late internal explosion of warmth. Quite smooth for a cask strength.

One of the best Bourbons I've tasted in a long time,
this beats out Stagg!

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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby sspolv » Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:15 am

Ridgemont Reserve 1792

Nose: Very prominent alcohol smell that tingles the nose. Vanilla, new wood, and maybe citrus. I dunno, I'm not so great at nosing.

Palate: Vanilla and cherry. Kinda reminded me of a cherry cough syrup on the first sip, but not necessarily in a bad way. Very warm alcohol burn. It looked to be quite syrupy due to the lacing on the side of the glass, but I was pleasantly surprised that it was thinner than expected. Didn't think it was too coating.

Finish: Warm, very warm. The alcohol kinda overpowered me. Further tasting makes it a mellow, woody taste.

Woo, first review. I'm sure there's a significant amount I'm missing here, but my palate really isn't developed at all. I dunno how you guys pick out all this stuff. Hopefully with time I'll get to be half as good as most of the reviewers in here.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:04 pm

Collector57 wrote:
Ganga wrote:Speaking of Willie, will he be joining in at some point? I really look forward to seeing his point of view on these!

I believe he's at the Leith Vaults with SoI tonight so won't be joining. Or if he does it will be late and incoherent :P :D (only joking Willie!)

It was a good call though Nick. I had a few interesting things in the afternoon as I trawled the whisky shops on the Royal Mile (the Chichibu newborn and the Black Horse from Germany were very interesting), then a few beers over a meal with the Mrs., and then a session in the vaults with Gordon. I wasn't in great shape for coherent tasting notes. I'll get started on them tonight.

Its been going really well so far and I've been looking forward to this tasting for so long that I'll be along in due course. Never fear. :D
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:30 pm

Ok let's have a look at some of these splendid American drams. No idea where to start so I'll just pick them at random. I'll start with the Buffalo trace 9yo.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:54 pm

Buffalo Trace 9yo 45% (thanks Ras)

Colour: brown sherry
Nose: barley sugar, toffee, madiera cake, leather, sandalwood, nutmeg, cream, cocoa, absolutely bloody amazing. I love this.
Palate: barley sugar, demerara sugar, creme brulee, cocoa, coffee
Finish: medium-long length, spicy, fizzy, melting sugar.
Comment: Wonderful stuff. The nose is stunning. The rest isn't quite as good, but it's still great.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:22 pm

Virginia Gentleman 45% (thanks to Ras for this one too)

Colour: burnt umber
Nose: barley sugar, some feints, digestive biscuits, mealy.
Palate: slightly dilute barley and demerara sugar
Finish: cocoa powder, bitter chocolate, some tannins, a little minty.
Comment: Very pleasant dramming. A bit light in the middle perhaps and the feinty nose isn't as good as it could be, but I'd have no trouble drinking this anytime.
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