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Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:22 am

Returning to the 1792 following the rye.

Really sweet and vegetal. Also there is deft (sealant for wood projects). Maybe I'm just getting high like we did in the finish room in high school. :shock:

Palate is very sweet caramel with some menthol and grain. Rye is really reduced following the straight rye.

Yep, love this whiskey.

Edit: now I'm getting some peanut butter. :smoke:
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:49 am

Like I said, a little comparison of related whiskies. A Tennessee whiskey.

George Dickel 10

Dickel
Special Reserve
charcoal, weeds, freshly sprouted grain stalks, freshly dugged peanuts
sour corn mash, charcoal, a bit of soft drink caramel,
moderate, light, caramel, sour/charcoal
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10 Years Old
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:50 am

Those Staggs in the Hazmat range are marvelous. I'm not as thrilled with them when they are under 70%. The 72.4% is probably the best of the lot. Thanks for the review Sean.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:03 am

I'm revisiting the JB 8 before calling it an evening.

Sweetness. Better the second time around. :) Still, a very similar profile.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:06 am

I'll stay up for a bit. I enjoy reading your notes.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:23 am

Very interesting Sean! If you can believe it, your notes had my mouth watering. Eucalyptus! :shock: 8)
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:40 am

I found it very interesting to venture between the rye and bourbon. Think back on your bourbons when having the rye.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:43 am

Well goodnight Sean. Signing off from the Bourbons for tonight. See you UKers tomorrow morning! Slainte!
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby lohssanami » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:47 am

I had to take a break from sampling after that hiccup. 62.85% really burns down the wrong way!

Nice notes from both of you...great start to the bourbon tasting!
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:56 am

Great notes guys. You've got me wishing I could start now but I'm driving later, then meeting SOI in the Vaults so it'll be a while yet. Frustrating.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:03 am

pkt77242 wrote:
Ganga wrote:I found it very interesting to venture between the rye and bourbon. Think back on your bourbons when having the rye.


I second this as some bourbons seem to have a fair amount of rye in it (if I remember correctly bourbons can have up to 49% rye in them). RR 1792 is a good example of this as Ganga pointed out.

Sean

And I suppose since rye can have as little as 51% rye in it there may be no material difference between the mash bills. It would be nice to have more info on the mash bills, especially if the recipes they use are fairly stable. Anyone know anything?
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:05 am

Goodnight Sean. Thanks for all the notes.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:08 am

The question is whether you'll be in anyshape to taste bourbons after meeting up with Gordon, let alone at the vaults!

I plan to be around off and on tomorrow so we shall see what everyone has to say. I think it has been a great tasting so far. :)
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby lohssanami » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:11 am

I'll be back tomorrow evening to taste a little more. Willie, don't get too crazy with Gordon...save a bit for the bourbon...hehe.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:21 am

Yeah I'm a bit worried that I wont be in great shape to write notes when I get back, but I will be getting involved in this one, because I have a good selection to try (about 12, or 14 I think). Maybe I'll just have to do a couple a night through the week.

Work is such a nuisance. :)
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Giovinetti » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:21 am

Enjoy reading your notes.

I haven't had much in the way of bourbon just the low-price standard fare: Four Roses, Knob Creek, Maker's Mark, Wild Turkey, Elijah Craig 12 + 18. They were all o.k. (except Four Roses which had a really funny taste). I liked the EC 18yo the best but I think it was because it seemed more like scotch whisky to me. Someday I would like to try the George T. Stagg.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:49 am

Hi Guys ,
Greetings from Edinburgh !
Great notes so far , will try to post a few next week as i'm otherwise disposed.......
I would join in but there aren't any Society Bourbons at the moment !
Enjoy tonight !
I'll try and restrain Willie tonight....... :lol:
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:14 pm

Great fun to read your notes.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby sspolv » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:02 pm

Oh dear.
I actually got the date mixed up on this one. I thought it was the 7th at 6pm GMT. I'll have notes up sometime soon, at most by next Sunday. I ended up coming home for spring break so some of my supply is, unfortunately, 5 hours away.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:07 pm

Will be joining in with this shortly - about to pour a dram of Baker's 7 :D
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:36 pm

I'm off to the library right now but will return shortly. Plan to try some bourbons today with some ice. :shock:
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:44 pm

Baker's 7yo (53.5%, Batch B-90-001)

Nose: Very soft and sweet, with marzipan and vanilla predominating initially. Also lots of fruit: citrus fruit, hints of red fruit and a slight touch of under-ripe banana. A little bit of mint, woodspice and honey. A very faint smokiness from time to time.

Palate: Incredibly soft, with immediate vanilla and citrus notes. Quite sugary. Suggestion of Kendal Mint Cake. Also a litle honeyed. Does get quite hot if left in the mouth for more than a few seconds.

Finish: Honeyed, with mint and slightly over-ripe orange.


An ultra-soft whiskey with a lovely colour. I like the nose on this the best, but it's one I could happily sip all night. Good stuff!

Thanks to Ras Mazunga for the sample :thumbsup:
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:12 pm

Nice notes Tross! Unfortunately for me, not something I've had the opportunity to try. Soon I think.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby LagaDrinker » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:19 pm

Great notes guys, looking forward to joining in with you all after my race tomorrow :thumbsup:
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:24 pm

Ganga wrote:Nice notes Tross! Unfortunately for me, not something I've had the opportunity to try. Soon I think.


Thanks! Bourbon's something that I've not really looked into much, but the few I've tried have all been very good.

About to move onto a sample of Buffalo Trace that Ras Mazunga kindly sent me a while back.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:33 pm

I went through several of the bourbons last night in a brandy glass with no water and no ice. Today I plan to try a couple with ice.

Joshua Brook 8, 45%, tumbler with ice.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:43 pm

Joshua Brook 8

Joshua Brook
8 yo
Spirity, lemony, rye
raw oak astringent, feinty, lemons and oranges, light rye
short, but sweet
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8 Years Old
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:45 pm

Hi Ganga. I usually drink bourbon without ice but sometimes when I buy a new bottle I mess about with bourbons, when I wouldn't with single malt. Sometimes with ice, or sometimes I stick it in the freezer and see what occurs. I think it's a good way to explore them, especially if my palate gets bourbon-freeze and just goes "vanilla-oak-spice" and I can't distinguish one from another. A bit of ice can help kick-start my tasting on those days :lol:
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:47 pm

I also find straight bourbons take longer to open up than malts, so mine have been poured a while and are sitting waiting for me :)
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:49 pm

Good morning/evening TS. :lol: I'm starting to get used to the flavor now. I'd suggest it is better without the ice. I'm going to retry this one with some water. Good suggestion on just chilling it a little bit.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:51 pm

I do like to pour my malts and leave them sitting for 10-20 minutes before getting to them. Gives you a different feel for the whisky.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:54 pm

As the ice melts, the rye becomes overly dominating. Next up, JB8 with room temp water.
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:57 pm

Buffalo Trace >9yo (45%)

Nose: Bitter-sweet; some marzipan and vanilla ice-cream, but also slightly woody and a little vegetal (though the latter disappears pretty quickly). Citrus fruit - bitter orange, lemon and a little lime. Lemon cheesecake springs to mind every now and then! Very slightly smoky and dusty. Hoppy?? Also slightly butyric. Chocolate develops after a while.

Palate: Quite mild and placid in taste, with just a few weak citrussy, honeyed and vanilla notes coming through. Also a little smoky and earthy.

Finish: Some smoke, honey and weak citrus. Leaves quite a dry and earthy/mossy taste behind.


I found this to be quite an earthy bourbon with not that much to say all in all, with only the nose being expressive. Not the best bourbon I've had by some stretch, but the nose is pretty good.

Thanks again to Ras Mazunga for the sample!
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby TheTross » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:59 pm

Ganga wrote:Good morning/evening TS. :lol: I'm starting to get used to the flavor now. I'd suggest it is better without the ice. I'm going to retry this one with some water. Good suggestion on just chilling it a little bit.


I've never added ice to bourbon, and the only one I've added water to is GTS. Sensible, considering the one I have is >72% ABV... (can't remember what year that is now)
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Re: Bourbon - 6 March 2009 - 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:03 pm

72.4% Stagg is 2007 release. I find the over 70% Staggs better than those under. They also seem to be smoother and require no water in my opinion.
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