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Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby pkt77242 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:18 am

Ganga wrote:Very interesting notes there Ras and Sean. Thinking about doing some of the blends with some water added a little later tonight.


Good idea Rich. I just poured some JW Red. Going to let it sit for a couple of minutes and then post some notes.

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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:28 am

I'm back. Starting with the JW Red and Black but I'm adding a fair bit of water.

JW Red with water.

Nose: loads of citrus-lemons and limes, dry grass
Palate: loads of black pepper, some cayenne maybe, gristy barley
Finish: not much it is so short I can't really say anything about it

I do enjoy the JWR better with the water. Surprising for me.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby pkt77242 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:40 am

Good to see you Rich. I am still trying these without water. It will be interesting to see water does to them for you.

JW Red

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Peppery, caramel, sweet grain.
light pepper, caramel, some sweet grain, and a little citurs.
pretty short finish. slightly bitter with some salt and pepper. also just a touch of sweetness
of the four entry level NAS blends I have tried today this was the best. Definitely has more personality then the other ones, but still not something I would normally drink.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:47 am

JW Black 12 with water

Nose: wheatfield following a soft summer shower
Palate: light spiciness over a bed of flour
Finishz: short, doughy
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:53 am

I agree with you Sean. Of the 5 NAS I had, it was the best of the lot.

It will be interesting to see what you think when you go up the scale a little bit with 12 yos and possibly 18 yos.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:02 am

Dewar's White Label with water

Nose: rotten sneakers, some baked buns
Palate: raw grain and stalks, little pepper
Finish: short, peppery

Thankfully the water really dilutes the nose and the palate isn't anywhere near the nose.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby pkt77242 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:06 am

Now onto JW Black. Have only had it in bars before so it will be nice to do a true tasting of it.

JW Black

Johnnie Walker
Black
A touch of honey, a sliver of pepper, but has some added smoke, like a young HP
definitely smoke, grilled onions, sweet grain, and grilled panini bread.
medium length, with sour pepper.
Much better than the Red. I might consider buying a bottle of this some time.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:11 am

Totally agree that the Black is a big step up. Still don't want a bottle but I would drink a bottle if given one.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:15 am

Cutty Sark with water

Nose: fermented grains, crab apples
Palate: lemon peels, barley kernels with chaff
Finish: very short, barley
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby jhershauer » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:20 am

Starting the night with JW Black:

JW Black

Johnnie Walker
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Light smoke and peat, followed by candied orange
Sweet, light spice, a little pepper
Medium-long, pepper, smoke coming up back of nose
Excellent daily dram. When I first opened the bottle, I thought it was a little bitter on the finish. Not getting that at all now.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:30 am

J&B with water

Nose: sweet maltiness, dried lemon peels
Palate: unleavened bread, wheat with chaff, cracked pepper
Finish: short, pepper

This is much better with water. Quite quaffable.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby pkt77242 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:32 am

Up now is JW Gold 18yo. I have a 750ml bottle that I got before Christmas for $60 just to give it a try. I have always though of this as a very smooth easy drinking whisky.

JW Gold

Johnnie Walker
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Honey, exotic fruits, mango and papaya. some gentle smoke in the background.
Sweet and extremely smooth. Honey, very little oak for the age. granny smith apples, some floral notes.
rather long finish, with little burn but a slightly off after taste that I can't quite place
A nice whiksy but the parts seem better than the sum.
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While this is a better whisky (better put together), I enjoy the JW Black more. I just enjoy the smokiness and pepper of the black more than the sweetness of the Gold.

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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:40 am

Grant's NAS with water

Nose: ground cinnamon, dried herbs, malty, lemons
Palate: cinnamon twists, Italian spices
Finish: moderate, cinnamon

Really, like this better than the others I've had so far with water. This includes the JWers.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby pkt77242 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:42 am

Ganga, I just read your tasting notes on the OMC Glenfarclas, sounds amazing. I am trying to put together a list of whiskies that I want to buy before the baby is born (when my spending will go to almost zero for the first couple of months). I started looking at the Whisky Exchange site as it seems I can get a few bottles for relatively cheap. The Farclas went to the head of the list.

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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Novice Scotch Fan » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:43 am

pkt77242 wrote:Up now is JW Gold 18yo. I have a 750ml bottle that I got before Christmas for $60 just to give it a try. I have always though of this as a very smooth easy drinking whisky.

JW Gold

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Honey, exotic fruits, mango and papaya. some gentle smoke in the background.
Sweet and extremely smooth. Honey, very little oak for the age. granny smith apples, some floral notes.
rather long finish, with little burn but a slightly off after taste that I can't quite place
A nice whiksy but the parts seem better than the sum.
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While this is a better whisky (better put together), I enjoy the JW Black more. I just enjoy the smokiness and pepper of the black more than the sweetness of the Gold.

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I completely agree with your reference to an off putting note on the finish. I cant quite place it either, like heather, but bitter and it bothers me a lot. I too prefer the Black or Green over this.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby jhershauer » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:44 am

I have a 200ml bottle of JW Gold that I got for $20:

JW Gold

Johnnie Walker
Gold
Earthy peat, honey sweetness, then apricots
Sweet and very easy on the palate
Medium, the earthy peat coming back, a slight bitterness hanging around
Very smooth, but I miss the pepper and smoke from JW Black.
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Up next, JW Green.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby pkt77242 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:47 am

Jeff,

Nice to see you showing up to one of the live tastings. I agree with missing the pepper and smoke of the black when tasting the gold.

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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby jhershauer » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:48 am

Novice Scotch Fan wrote:I completely agree with your reference to an off putting note on the finish. I cant quite place it either, like heather, but bitter and it bothers me a lot. I too prefer the Black or Green over this.


Ok, that makes three of us. I described a "bitterness" hanging around on the finish, but I'm not sure that's quite the right way to describe it. It wasn't like hops bitterness on the back of the throat...it was something hanging around on the sides of my tongue.

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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Novice Scotch Fan » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:49 am

Grants Ale Cask Reserve (NAS)
Serving: Drop of water;
Nose: fresh bread dough, vanilla
[u]Palate[/u]: Honey, a little spice, malt, cereal.
Finish: A little zing of peat and heather on the finish.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby pkt77242 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:51 am

Jeff,

Which overseas store did you get your sampler pack from? and how long did it take to arrive?

Good to see you here NSF.

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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby jhershauer » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:54 am

pkt77242 wrote:Jeff,

Nice to see you showing up to one of the live tastings. I agree with missing the pepper and smoke of the black when tasting the gold.

Sean


Thanks Sean. I'm getting a little more bold about posting, even though I feel a bit limited in my ability to express what I'm tasting/smelling.

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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:58 am

I wonder if the change in the grain characteristic between the Black and the Gold is what changes for you. I dig the vanillas I get from the Gold.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:00 am

Old St Andrews 12 yo with water

Nose: tangerines and lemons, doughy, straw
Palate: stewed oranges mixed with flour, light chocolates
Finish: short, sweet

Very nice.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Novice Scotch Fan » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:01 am

Johnnie Walker Black

Nose
vanilla, followed by gentle peat, sea salt air.


Palate
The taste experience commences with smooth, sweet cinnamon, caramel, almond, brown sugar, malt (think Cheerios breakfast cereal), some spiciness, but not to the point of pepper, which evaporates quickly into clouds of subtle peat and smoke.

Finish
Very restrained peat with a flourish of smoke and grains of sea salt round out this scotch tasting experience. The flavor does not linger long though if you have added ice. Where no ice is added, you will enjoy some lingering sea salt, restrained black licorice, peat and smoke enveloping the palate in a silky, luxuriant finish. No burn and only the slightest of heat (in a good way) upon swallowing, as this is very, very smooth!

I really enjoy this as a weekday evening drink. Its the blend against which I measure all the others.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby pkt77242 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:04 am

jhershauer wrote:
pkt77242 wrote:Jeff,

Nice to see you showing up to one of the live tastings. I agree with missing the pepper and smoke of the black when tasting the gold.

Sean


Thanks Sean. I'm getting a little more bold about posting, even though I feel a bit limited in my ability to express what I'm tasting/smelling.

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Jeff,

I still have trouble expressing what I am tasting and smelling and I have been on this forum for over two years. I am getting better at it but there are still plenty of times that I can't quite come up with what I am tasting/smelling. But it is sure fun trying to figure it out.

Now following Ganga, I am having some Dewars white label with a nice pour of water.

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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:08 am

Famous Grouse 12 with water

Nose: Cinnabon
Palate: cinnamon dough, orange peels, light dried spices
Finish: moderate, spicey
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby pkt77242 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:13 am

Dewars White Label (with water)

Dewar's
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apples, grass, and plastic
Definitely more sweet now, but still very bland and simple.
still short and bland. little like drinking lettuce.
mabye a little easier to drink with water but not much better.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Novice Scotch Fan » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:14 am

Ganga, does your last tasting note pertain to the FG Gold? I ask brecause I think FG has a 12 and then a 12 they call Gold. I recall the Gold as way over sherried.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:15 am

One of the things I get with both the Red and the Black is an estery/spirity nature which is missing in the gold. I also find that the water takes the edge off both the Red and the Black.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:17 am

Novice Scotch Fan wrote:Ganga, does your last tasting note pertain to the FG Gold? I ask brecause I think FG has a 12 and then a 12 they call Gold. I recall the Gold as way over sherried.


Just the FG 12.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby pkt77242 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:18 am

Ganga,

Does your tastebuds ever get tired. You can seem to try a fair amount of whisky but still have nice notes? I have noticed on my last one that it was getting hard to discern exact flavors, I could still get the general feel for it but was having a hard time pinning it down.

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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:22 am

Chivas 18 with water

Nose: oaky, cinnamon dust, ground cocoa beans, lemons/oranges
Palate: raw oak, stewed oranges, dk chocolate
Finish: short
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Novice Scotch Fan » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:23 am

Johnnie Walker Green

Nose: Distinctly floral, coupled with malt and cookie dough, faint wisps of anise, peat and pipe tobacco.

Palate: This is a honeyed dram! Honey gently expands across the palate followed by vanilla, moving to a drying sea spray (I realize this is an oxymoron) and pepper corns across the palate.

Finish: dry cinammon, restrained fresh ground black pepper and sea salt linger. A very long peppery finish. Great length.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Ganga » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:27 am

Occasionally I find some whiskies that desensitize my palate. These can be the first things that I have and I'm shot for an hour. What I really find is that my mind starts to wonder long before the palate goes.
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Re: Blended Whiskies - April 3-12

Postby Novice Scotch Fan » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:31 am

Enjoy yourselves gentlemen, I am retiring for the evening. the whisky has gone to my head. I a little tanked right not. Have a good one!
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