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PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:47 am

Just got over a head cold/sinus infection (I know, I have been sick a lot lately). 2 young sweet/smoky whiskies, and then 3 old sweet/smoky. Time to get started.

Caol Ila Distillers Edition 1996/2009 Moscatel Casks

Caol Ila
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Peaches, lemon and lime. briney smoke. Do they soak their peat in salt water before burning? Maybe some pineapple.
starts sweet on peaches and white pepper. Then brine shows up. Maybe briney peaches? Ginger. maybe some nectarines.
Medium short finish. Smoke shows up late to match the sweetness. The white pepper is still haning around.
When I first opened this bottle it was very sweet, but has now calmed down to a nice sweet/smokey combo.
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1996
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85 points.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:58 am

Talisker Distillers Edition 1992/2005 Amoroso Sherry cask

Talisker
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Even sweeter. Plum, raspberry, and a hint of pepper and salt. Some grapey notes as well.
Lots of plum at first, then some salted grapes. Pepper and peat make a showing.
Medium finish on nuts, loads of pepper, and some salt. Where did the sweetness go?
Starts sweet but then turns into a pepper/salt monster at the end.
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1992
45.8%
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87 points.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby lockejn » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:04 am

pkt77242 wrote:Just got over a head cold/sinus infection (I know, I have been sick a lot lately).

I'm afraid you might have to get used to it. I've been sick more in my daughter's first year than the previous 5 years combined. It's likely to be a tough few more years before the trend turns.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:14 am

G+M Secret Stills Isle of Skye 1986/2007 21yo

Talisker
Secret Stills
cocoa, walnuts, orange, tangerine, and hints of salt and pepper. Just a hint of smoke.
Did I mention this was from first fill sherry casks. Salted and peppered orange.
Medium-short finish on a little orange but it can't stand up to the salt and pepper.
A rich and juicy Talisker.
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21 Years Old
1986
45%
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88 points.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:27 am

lockejn wrote:
pkt77242 wrote:Just got over a head cold/sinus infection (I know, I have been sick a lot lately).

I'm afraid you might have to get used to it. I've been sick more in my daughter's first year than the previous 5 years combined. It's likely to be a tough few more years before the trend turns.


:( Thanks for the good news. I am sure the fact that my wife is pediatric nurse doesn't help :headbang:

Somehow my son hasn't been really sick yet (well besides his reflux/throw up issue).
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:38 am

Talisker 25yo 2004 Release

Talisker
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Salt, pepper, rhubarb, and some leather. Also a little spiced apple and cherry fruit tart. Smoked wood?
Baked apple pie, salt, pepper, and some strawberry rhubarb pie. nice smoke as well.
Medium finish on smoked wood, salt and pepper. Just a hint of fruit jam.
Very nice. Much more polished than the G+M 21yo and less fruity. A very enjoyable whisky.
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91 points.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:18 am

Last one of the evening.

Lagavulin 21yo

Lagavulin
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Can we say loads of sherry and smoke. It is like sitting at a bonfire on the beach and eating fruit, nuts and chocolate.
sherry (raisins, plums, strawberries, nuts etc), salted dark chocolate, and loads of smoke and peat.
Long, it just keeps going. salted nuts and dark chocolate. Also some very nice smoke.
Pure Heaven.
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1985
56.5%
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98 points.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:14 am

Collector57 wrote:I like a man who is dedicated. Keep 'em coming Sean! :D


Thank You Nick. You ask for it and you shall receive. 6 more 21yo+ peaty whiskies tonight.

Signatory UCF Brora 21yo

Signatory
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Mint, brazil nuts, eucalyptus, and some light smoke. Background notes of cedar, lemon and a little malty.
Starts malty, porridge, and big notes of mint, and leaves, and some light smoke.
Medium finish on loads of mint and brush.
A nice whisky but hard to define and place it in a category.
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21 Years Old
1981
46%
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86 points for a very different whisky (I almost gave it an extra point for being distilled in my year of birth but held out).
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:25 am

Laphroaig 30

Laphroaig
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Spiced stewed fruits. super soft and gentle smoke. A little brine and seaweed, but then overtaken by smokey raisin.
Starts sweet on the stewed fruit and raisins. Then gets the typical seaweed, and medicinal notes. Nice smoke and a little cinnamon and nutmeg from the wood.
shortish finish. briney smoke. after a couple of seconds some red cooked fruits.
Great nose, very good palate, and a weak finish.
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90 points. Very enjoyable. Thank you for the sample Jeff.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:46 am

Signatory Port Ellen 1979 23yo

Signatory
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starts on strawberry, apple, and yeasty. then gets very waxy. Maybe some smokey moss as well.
starts of very nice on cooked apples, and some french bread. Then comes briney wax. lots of it.
Medium-short finish. Toffee. then some salted wax and the smoke and peat show up at the end.
A little too waxy for my taste but there are some really nice other flavors.
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82 points. By no means a great whisky but still enjoyable.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:06 am

Port Ellen 6th Annual Release

Port Ellen
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Lemon yogurt and cream brulee. Maybe some smoke lemon as well. Seems much younger than the age. Also some vanilla as well.
Lemon and vanilla are the dominant theme here. All different types, lemon and vailla yogurt, creme brulee, maybe even some lemon and vanilla cookies. Hints of vanilla bean as well.
Nice long finish. Starts on the lemon and vanilla and then the coal smoke and desiel hits and lingers for a couple of minutes
A great whisky. A couple of minutes later and the lemony coal smoke is still lingering.
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27 Years Old
1978
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92 points. Thank you for the sample Jeff.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby jhershauer » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:12 am

You know, Sean...that's a good point about the PE seeming younger than it is. Very good, though. I need to pull the PE 6 and 7 back out to compare to the PE 9 sample I got from whiskysamples.

Nice notes!

Jeff

Oh...I don't know that I would call the Laph 30 finish "weak." I supposed compared to the Laga 21. I've finally got another bottle on the way to stock away for a special occassion (thanks to bcrossan).
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:17 am

jhershauer wrote:You know, Sean...that's a good point about the PE seeming younger than it is. Very good, though. I need to pull the PE 6 and 7 back out to compare to the PE 9 sample I got from whiskysamples.

Nice notes!

Jeff

Oh...I don't know that I would call the Laph 30 finish "weak." I supposed compared to the Laga 21. I've finally got another bottle on the way to stock away for a special occassion (thanks to bcrossan).


Yes you do Jeff.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby jhershauer » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:26 am

You're right about this being obviously young, but if you're going to go young, a peaty whisky is the way to do it.

Very valid points for rating it down, but I seem to like it a bit more than you, pretty much splitting the difference between your score and the raves that Jim Murray gives it. I thought the peat actually held up pretty well into the finish.

Thanks for keeping this thread going with all of your notes. I was busy the weekend of the 6th, but maybe I could add some notes here, too.

Jeff

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Kilchoman Inaugural

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Gumdrops. pear, apple, lemon and raspberry. After a minute or so a whiff of smoke.
starts of on lemons and peat but then a rough spot (paint thinner, and varnish). feinty.
medium finish. still the paint thinner but with some smoke and peat.
Starts of nice and falls apart in the middle. You can tell it is young but it has potential.
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74 points but has loads of potential. Needs a couple of more years in wood.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:34 am

Scott's Selection Highland Park 1981 25yo

Scott's Selection
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Heathery peat. some nice grass, and a little honey. Underbrush and some wood.
Some spicy peat. The peat is very mossy/heathery. A hint of honey and some oak. Almost no fruit. The only sweetness is a hint of vanilla.
Medium long finish. Heathery peat and polished oak make a strong showing.
A really like this HP but it is very different from their official releases.
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25 Years Old
1981
50.6%
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90 points.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby jhershauer » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:39 am

Great notes on this one, Sean. I LOVE that earthy/mossy peat and wood combination. It plays right into my preferences.

Thank you very much for the generous sample of this.

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Scott's Selection Highland Park 1981 25yo

Scott's Selection
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Heathery peat. some nice grass, and a little honey. Underbrush and some wood.
Some spicy peat. The peat is very mossy/heathery. A hint of honey and some oak. Almost no fruit. The only sweetness is a hint of vanilla.
Medium long finish. Heathery peat and polished oak make a strong showing.
A really like this HP but it is very different from their official releases.
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25 Years Old
1981
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90 points.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:42 am

jhershauer wrote:Great notes on this one, Sean. I LOVE that earthy/mossy peat and wood combination. It plays right into my preferences.

Thank you very much for the generous sample of this.

Jeff


My pleasure.

jhershauer wrote:You're right about this being obviously young, but if you're going to go young, a peaty whisky is the way to do it.

Very valid points for rating it down, but I seem to like it a bit more than you, pretty much splitting the difference between your score and the raves that Jim Murray gives it. I thought the peat actually held up pretty well into the finish.

Thanks for keeping this thread going with all of your notes. I was busy the weekend of the 6th, but maybe I could add some notes here, too.

Jeff


Agreed, the peat covers up some of the feintyness. I can't wait to try this whisky when it is 8-12 years old.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:04 am

Last one for the night.

I should be back on Thursday to do 10-12yo peaty whiskies 47% abv and up. I have at least 6 and maybe a 7th if a package makes it here on time.

Caol Ila 1979 25yo OB 2005 Release

Caol Ila
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A little shy on the nose. Lemon yogurt and lemon rind. Some very nice smoke and peat. Very refined peat. Smoke is slightly briney. Citrus.
Lots of lemon (very citrusy), and smoke. Lemon rind, lemon meringue pie, and some lemon cake. Notes of underbrush smoke and some salt. Some polished oak.
Long finish and the smoke really comes out here. Like having your nose about a campfire for 10 minutes. Smoke, slightly hot, and a hint of oak. Gets even oakier, with a hint of the lemon still showing through. Smokey oak keeps going and going and going.
Do you like smokey oak with a lot of lemon/ If so you will love this. Reminds me of the PE 6th release a fair bit.
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25 Years Old
1979
58.4%
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90 points. For the first time I can see why Diageo closed PE. This is very similar to the PE 6th release, not the same but close. Not quite as complex but still very enjoyable.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ryguy » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:05 pm

Great notes Sean, keep them coming! I have selected a bunch of samples / bottles to taste and post notes here as well. I will be tasting them tomorrow evening, so I should be around for a chat as well. :D :D
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:40 am

Ryguy wrote:Great notes Sean, keep them coming! I have selected a bunch of samples / bottles to taste and post notes here as well. I will be tasting them tomorrow evening, so I should be around for a chat as well. :D :D


I will see you tomorrow Ry.

My whiskies for tomorrow are

Ardbeg 10 Renny
Laphroaig 10 CS (US release)
Laphoraig 10 CS (Batch 1)
Lagavulin 12 1995 FOCM
Lagavulin 12 2004
Lagavulin 12 2008
Lagavulin 12 2009

I am salivating already, just thinking about it.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ganga » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:14 am

Smokehead

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Sweet smoke, iodine, pencil shavings
Smoked honey bacon
long, bacon grease
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ryguy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:05 am

I'm finally over this cold that lasted almost 2 weeks, it's nice to be able to taste/smell again! So here I go........

Talisker 57 deg North

Talisker
57 deg North
Lots of salt with a hint of toffee/vanilla in the background.
A hint of sweetness with more salts and some iodine/peat as well.
Medium finish that becomes more smokey towards the very end.
A nice whisky, but I much prefer the 10yo OB over this one.
Light gold
83

NAS Years Old
0
57%%
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ryguy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:16 am

Talisker SMWS 14.12

Talisker
14.12
Very nice mix of peat with some hot peppers, then a hint of mango.
Whoa! A huge blast of pepper then something sweet that I can't quite put my finger one. With a few drops of water it calms down the pepper a bit and becomes a bit sweeter.
Long finish, more peppers, with some salt towards the very end.
This is indeed a very powerful Talisker. Starts hot and gets hotter!
Light gold
86

15 Years Old
0
58.4%
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ryguy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:41 am

Bunnahabhain 34yo OB

Bunnahabhain
Bunnahabhain 34yo OB
Light sherry with some spices and sweet fruits.
Bigger sherry influence on the palate, a bit drying with some stewed dark fruits.
The finish is long and dry with a hint of fresh cut mint towards the very end.
Extremely drinkable!
Dark amber
88

34 Years Old
0
43.5%
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ganga » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:54 am

Very nice notes there Ryan. I'm so glad your senses have recovered.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ryguy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:54 am

Bunnahabhain SMWS 10.65

Bunnahabhain
SMWS 10.65 "Hold the Phone!"
Whoa, there is a huge peat fire in my glass! Now we're talking!! This is huge on the nose, smoked fish and campfire smoke!
Very nice on the palate, nice oily mouthfeel and loads of peat with the taste of overcooked bacon as well (in a good way)!
The finish is very long, somewhat sweet with loads of smoke.
Very tasty and definitely a big peat monster! I would love to see more botles like this from Bunnahabhain!
Dark gold
91

11 Years Old
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56.4%
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:00 am

7 Whiskies up tonight.

Laphroaig 10 CS

Laphroaig
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Seaweed, brine, peat, and some used socks. A hint of citrus (maybe grapefruit) and some iodine.
salted peat wrapped in seaweed and soaked in iodine. Some nice sweetness on lemon, grapefruit, and maybe a hint of lime.
briney lemon with a load of smoke on a long finish. great
How young Laph should be.
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0
55.7%
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89 points.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ryguy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:11 am

More peat of course! :smoke:

Laphroaig 7yo "The Ultimate"

Laphroaig
7yo, 2001 Refill Butt 629
Diesel engine smoke, burnt oil, with some iodine.
Very full-bodied, coats the palate well, more iodine and very smokey!
Very nice and long oily finish, more peat all around!
Lovely dram, many thanks to Ras for this sample!
Light gold
89

7 Years Old
0
57.6%
The Ultimate

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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:18 am

A different Laph 10 CS this time Batch 1 from the UK

Laphroaig 10 CS Batch 1

Laphroaig
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A little more closed at first but there is some apples and lemons, to go along with band-aids and iodine. Some salt and peat come on after a little bit. Some notes of apple juice.
peated, salted apple juice. Quite a different combo but enjoyable.
Long, and I mean long finish on salted peat for most of it but at the very end you get the apple juice again.
A very nice combo of peat and apple juice.
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10 Years Old
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57.8%
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90 points. I really like the apple juice notes.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ryguy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:30 am

Time to mix it up a bit with a couple of young PE's.

Scottish Wildlife Port Ellen 10yo

Port Ellen
Scottish Wildlife (Signatory) PE 10yo
Hmm, interesting nose. Very typical, but a tad light for a PE, really showing it's youth here. There is hints of peat, but again very youthful and light.
Overall a bit thin on the palate, but the peat is more evident than the nose hinted to. More iodine than most PE's I've had.
Short to medium finish, again it's all a bit thin and very much showing it's youth with some sweet peat.
This one did get better the more and more I had of it, but definitely different from most PE's I have had. Of course I had never tasted one this young either. I would have guessed a young CI for sure here.
Pale gold
85

10 Years Old
0
43%
Signatory

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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:36 am

Ardbeg Renaissance

Ardbeg
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Lemon, tar, and a little smoke. Loads of lemon drops. A hint of lemon rind and vanilla.
Lemon peat. A hint of tar and smoked fish. Also some vanilla.
Medium finish on lemon and vanilla peat. Also a little coal.
A very nice whisky and very enjoyable.
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10 Years Old
1998
55.9%
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88 points tonight. I usually rate this up around 90 but tonight it is lacking a little some of the complexity.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ryguy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:38 am

Signatory Port Ellen 14yo

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Signatory Port Ellen, 1983, 14yo, Butt 28
Engine smoke and iodine, with some sweetness in the background.
Starts light then becomes oily / peaty with more iodine.
Short finish and definitely showing its youth. Nice and smokey towards the very end, but overall light.
It was interesting to try these 2 young bottlings, I can definitely say that young PE reminds me of Caol Ila for sure!
Pale gold
85

14 Years Old
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43%
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby pkt77242 » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:49 am

Now onto 4 different Lagavulin 12yo.

Lagavulin 12 1995 Friends of Classic Malts Sherry casks

Lagavulin
Friends of Classic Malts
Orange marmalade and peat. Raisins and salted walnuts. Just a hint of deisiel and sulphur. Salted strawberries.
Orange marmalade. raisins, and walnuts. Now some smoke and peat make a showing but they can't defeat the sweetness. Syrupy.
Medium-long finish. on smoke raisins and orange marmalade. smoke becomes stronger at the very end.
Very, very good. Nice mix of sweet and smoke.
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91 points.
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ryguy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:14 am

Next up, a couple of Ardbegs!

Ardbeg Toasted Oak Cask 1190

Ardbeg
Toasted Oak Cask 1190
Hmmm, much sweeter and more balance than the sister cask. More vanilla with some honey, hints of peat.
Wow very full of flavors, overall sweetness and this coats the palate very well. Hints of fisherman's friends towards the middle and a bit of peats towards the very end.
Long and tasty, some spices and more sweetness, just wonderful!
I can't get over how different this is from Cask 1189. Both are very good in their own respects, but extremely different.
Dark amber
94

0 Years Old
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54.7%
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Re: PEAT FEST - Live Tasting - February 6, 2010

Postby Ryguy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:17 am

Ardbeg Toasted Oak Cask 1189

Ardbeg
Toasted Oak Cask 1189
The nose is very deep, loads going on here. Lots of wood smoke, wet tarry ropes, something sweet like coffee and just overall greatness!
Whoa, tons of peat smoke, and lots of complexity. It just changes throughout with lots of sweet vanilla notes and peat, peat, peat.
Really long finish with toffee mixed with huge peat. The smoke lasts forever!
Excellent bottling, I'd love to see Ardbeg experiment with more like this!
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0 Years Old
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