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US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:40 pm

Come one, come all. Join us in our exploration of bourbons, ryes and other whiskies produced in the US. Call it Whisky Thanskgiving.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:39 am

I'll kick off the US whisky thread. Start with a cheap, readily available bourbon. Rebel Yell. This is a Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey @ 40%.

Medium Gold

Nose: Crushed peanut shells, straw, vanilla, some greens (mint?)
Palate: Creamy vanilla, rough cracked grains, green grass
Finish: kind of longish, vanilla and peanuts

When I first had this it was not very good at all. It's been open for 6 mos or so now and it has at least developed a little bit of character.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:30 am

Next up Hirsch 13 Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey Lot 97-1, 47.8%

Reddish Gold

Nose: minty vanilla, maple wood, wheat
Palate: minty, green grass, raw rye grain, maple syrup
Finish: continuation of the palate, kind of short

While it doesn't linger like the Rebel Yell it is far more complex and much more enjoyable.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:40 am

Man, I want some of that Sean! :thumbsup:
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby AdamMY » Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:47 am

Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10 Year old Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.

I happened to have bought a half bottle of this in the past at least I believe it was the same age and found it phenomenal hopefully this one is the same.

Color is a nice medium amber color. And it is aromas like this that make me realize why I love whiskey in the first place. There is something about the aroma in a higher quality bourbon, Loads of vanilla, cinnamon, and ginger, perhaps even the slightest hint of a smoke like character.

Well yes the taste does let me know its 90 proof, but somehow it was strangely invigorating, and cleansing. I dare say the whole wave of vanilla is incredible, with a nice cooling almost mint like effect.

It is not as good as I remember the half bottle being, but then again my taste buds have not yet become accustom to the high alcohol content of Whiskey again.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:47 am

Rittenhouse Straight Rye Whiskey 100 proof

Amber

Nose: squash-pumpkin and summer, vanilla extract, swathed grain field
Palate: creamy grains, cracked white pepper, plantains
Finish: long, grainy

This is really good tonight although not a subtle as the Hirsch.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:49 am

AdamMY wrote:Eagle Rare Single Barrel 10 Year old Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.

I happened to have bought a half bottle of this in the past at least I believe it was the same age and found it phenomenal hopefully this one is the same.

Color is a nice medium amber color. And it is aromas like this that make me realize why I love whiskey in the first place. There is something about the aroma in a higher quality bourbon, Loads of vanilla, cinnamon, and ginger, perhaps even the slightest hint of a smoke like character.

Well yes the taste does let me know its 90 proof, but somehow it was strangely invigorating, and cleansing. I dare say the whole wave of vanilla is incredible, with a nice cooling almost mint like effect.

It is not as good as I remember the half bottle being, but then again my taste buds have not yet become accustom to the high alcohol content of Whiskey again.


ER 10s are usually pretty good but they are single barrels so there always exists the possibility of variation. Sounds like you got a good one though. :thumbsup:
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:12 am

Jim Beam Straight Rye Whisky

Amber gold

Nose: mild. some straw, grains (oats?), crushed mint
Palate: reminds me of those restraunts with the sawdust on the floor and you dump the peanut shells on the floor. some maple syrup notes, citrus-oranges.
Finish: mild, orange marmalade.

This is tasty.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:20 am

pkt77242 wrote:Elmer T Lee Single barrel for Hi Time Wine barrel #120

N: Lots of corn, vanilla, some caramel and a little oak char. A little butterscotch and toffee.
P: rather sweet with corn and caramel. Some of the oak, butterscotch and saw dust. Vanilla creme brulee.
F: Shortish on vanilla custard, corn and caramel. A little drying oak at the very end.

Rather simple but sweet. This bottle seems to be getting sweeter the longer it is open.


I wonder if they still have some of this. It sounds charming.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:34 am

Old Fitzgerald's 1849 Kentucky Straigh Bourbon Whiskey, 45%

Reddish amber

Nose: grainy, vanilla, generic citrus notes, dried mint leaves
Palate: rough, grainy, butterscotch brittle, butter
Finish: kind of rough and lingering

Just doesn't match up with the previous whiskies.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby AdamMY » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:40 am

Ganga wrote:Old Fitzgerald's 1849 Kentucky Straigh Bourbon Whiskey, 45%

Reddish amber

Nose: grainy, vanilla, generic citrus notes, dried mint leaves
Palate: rough, grainy, butterscotch brittle, butter
Finish: kind of rough and lingering

Just doesn't match up with the previous whiskies.



I have found Bourbon in general seems to be hit or miss, which I am honestly sad to say, because when you get a good one, which at least being in the United States can happen at a quite reasonable price point it can be quite good (almost preferable to many mid level Scotches in my opinion). But at times it can be so incredibly rough and harsh that it really can call into question your previous experiences.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:46 am

Ancient Ancient Age 10 Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey 45%

Dark gold

Nose: butterscotch drizzled over a bed of grains, little bit of woodshop in there, pecan shells, vanilla custard (no cinnamon)
Palate: nutty brittle, waffles and syrup, vanilla
Finish: relaxing, butterscotch toffee

This is wonderful. :thumbsup:
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:48 am

Good oberservation Adam. Although I've not had any Stagg's that were disappointing.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:01 am

Yellowstone Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey 8, 43%

Gold

Nose: Crushed nuts and shells, creamy peanut butter, straw mixed with cracked grain
Palate: cream, vanilla, nutmeg and other dry spices, butterscotch topping on vanilla ice cream
Finish: satisfying, sweet.

This is one that is most surprising. It's very sweet yet you don't feel like it's too much.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:12 am

Hill and Hill Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, 43%, Quart bottle

Red Amber

Nose: Sawdust and glue, maple syrup, vanilla, fried eggs with buttered toast
Palate: green wheat, Mrs Buttersworth maple syrup, sawdust
Finish: short, moderately sweet

Interesting but not as good as some of the others.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:26 am

Old Taylor Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, 50%, 4/5 Qt

medium dark gold

Nose: cream of wheat, straw, rye grains, some dried spices
Palate: pancakes soaked in syrup, vanilla extract, buttery
Finish: drying (surprising) yet syrupy, diminishing

Very nice.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:33 am

Black Maple Hill Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey 11 yo
47.5%, Cask 307

dark amber, reddish tinge

Nose: milkweed and thistles, dusty old house, mint, basil
Palate: mixed salad, fresh mown June grass, sour, charcoal?
Finish: more of the same

This is really well put together even if it isn't quite the things I enjoy.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:34 am

I think you would enjoy it Sean.

Black Maple is strange, intriguing.....
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:51 am

Sunny Brook Kentucky Blended Whiskey, 40%

Dark Straw

Nose: blend of corn and hard grains, dry spice
Palate: corn syrup
Finish: sweet

This is rather simplistic and boring after everything else.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:58 am

Ancient Age Straight Kentucky Bourbon 40%

Reddish gold

Nose: creamy, straw and grains, dried grasses
Palate: Astringent green grass, peanuts and shells
Finish: mild yet satisfying

This is good but nowhere near the AAA version.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:11 am

Wild Turkey 8 Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, 50.5%

Amber

Nose: minty butterscotch, grainy
Palate: mixed nuts, greens, grains
Finish: lively, green and cracked grains

It's a little rough but has enough going on to keep you focused on it.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:15 am

Sean, that sounds like one I would really enjoy. Is there a roughness too it or is it more of a sweet bourbon?
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:26 am

I think you describe the BT quite well. It is very sweet and definitely very interesting. Difficult to drink more than once in a great while.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:31 am

Returning to the Rebel Yell.

Really, comes back into focus. Peanut shells coming through. Really not that bad. Not great but still drinkable.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:23 am

Back to the Rebel Yell. Kind of use this to set up something familiar from last night.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:34 am

Jacob's Well Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, 42%, 84 mos

Reddish amber

Nose: grainery, green grass, honey, nuts
Palate: straw, honeynut cheerios, peanut brittle
Finish: longish, nuts and honey

Enjoyable, although rough at some points of the palate.
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:41 am

Wathen's Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey Single Barrel Eight, 47%

dark red gold

Nose: mint and cut grass, almond shells, vanilla
Palate: spring wheat, summer meadow, clarified butter
Finish: moderate, astringent mint
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:48 am

Jim Beam Black 7, 45%

dark amber

Nose: thrashed grains, oak shavings, nut shells
Palate: rye grain, peanut brittle, whipped butter on waffles
Finish: short, grainy
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:59 am

Bourbon de Luxe Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, 40%

Coffee brown

Nose: greens, toffee, bbq corn husks
Palate: charred oak, green tea, sorghum
Finish: short, charred greens
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:05 am

Old Forester Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, 43%

gold

Nose: 3 day old cut grass, pecans, bubble gum sugar dust, corn husks
Palate: bitter green herbs, coffee toffee
Finish: short to non-existant
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:11 am

Old Forester Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, 50%

gold

Nose: dried mint leaves, pecans, grist
Palate: bitter green herbs, toffee/brittle, nuts
Finish: moderate, toffee and greens
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:23 am

Four Roses Kentucky Straight Bourbon (for export from US - Japanese?) 40% (700 ml)

bright gold

Nose: dried basil, crushed grains, nut shells, pancakes with butter and syrup
Palate: spinach, pancakes, caramel
Finish: moderate and very sweet
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:31 am

Daviess County Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, 4 yo, 43%

carmel gold

Nose: cinnamon sticks-candy, grains, leafy greens, mint
Palate: turpentine and grease, cinnamon stick candy, rye
Finish: long, green and grainy
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Ganga » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:36 am

This concludes the test of the American whiskies for Ganga tonight. Signing off with Rebel Yell. :D
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Re: US Whiskies November 19-30, 2010

Postby Swedish Chef » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:57 pm

Oops, missed this tasting saturday. But I had this:

Elijah Craig 12yo small batch 47%.

Plenty of oak (both charred and saw dust like), coconut, mandarin and grapefruit peels on the nose. Much the same on the palate except less coconut and more lemon than grape and some mint. Finish is really fresh with citrus, cocnut and mint at first. Then oak, vanilla and raspberries become dominant.

I've only had two bourbons before this, Jack Daniels and Jim Beam. Didn't like any of them so this was a real surprise. Can't get it at the monopoly, but could I get it at the EUR 21.75 I paid for it in Germany this could easily be my daily dram.
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