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May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Fri May 06, 2011 4:40 am

Well, it was discussed and we thought we would do standard bottlings of a modest price range.

The Rules of the Game:

1. Must be 12 yo or younger
2. Modest price ($60 US, $100 Aus, 35 GBP, etc)
3. Whisky cannot be finished
4. No restricions on location
5. No independent bottlings
6. Blended whiskies are fine

I'm sure that some of the guys will chip in with things I've forgotten.

Day: Any day for the month of May (Seeing as many folks are tied up with festivals here and there)

Time: well anytime but 7PM British Time on Saturdays for congregating and discussing the whiskies.

Examples: Glenlivet 12, Glenfiddich 12, Jack Daniels Old No. 7, JW Red Label
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Fri May 06, 2011 5:05 am

pkt77242 wrote:Will be back with some Speyside 12 soon.


Is that a threat?
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Fri May 06, 2011 5:16 am

Bit of an oddity to start but this is from a working distillery that happens to be the oldest commercial whisky distillery in Japan(1919) and this one can be purchased in Europe.

White Oak(Eigashima) Distillery SM Aged 5 Years. 45 per cent alcohol.

Nose: The colour is honey and the nose follows suit. Is this only 5 years old? No roughness at all! Also soft oak, tinned apricots, pear, treacle and fresh dough. Smooth and balanced.

Palate: Honey and treacle on crumpets, soft oak, pear, dough, nutmeg and ginger.

Finish: Nicely spicy, yet also creamy, with good length. Some mineral-like qualities and lingering.........lingering smoke.
Really fantastic for the age.
Rating: 86/100
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Fri May 06, 2011 5:31 am

Yoichi NAS 43%

Nose: Quite chunky malt for a young'n. Some pine and big bowl of diced stone fruits of apricot/peach/nectarine.

Palate: Fairly light and smooth to start. Malt, bubblegum, a little salt, some nuttyness then a some pepper.

Finish: Short/medium with pepper, nuts, malt and chocolate.
You'd drink this every day for the 10-12 bucks you pay for it in Japan
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Fri May 06, 2011 5:35 am

Sean's just trying to save it for himself. :P

Ok, I can be encouraged to add one...the one most handy.

Old Pulteney 12 (from Xmas gift box-2010)

Nose: gristy sea air, heather honey, peaches and cream
Palate: sweet bread (not sweet breads), honey, honeydew with sprinkled salt
Finish: long, salty and sweet

Really is the best OP 12 I've had. The aromas and palate just POP.
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Postby dramtastic » Fri May 06, 2011 5:45 am

Miyagikyo NAS 43%

Nose: Is grassy, toffeed, citrussy and floral(cherry bloosoms?). Well balance and quite delightful.

Palate: Nicely creamy texture. Bubblegum(like the Yoichi NAS), sweet flower petals, cinnamon, nutmeg, chocolate, malt, then a little grassy again.

Finish: Is short-medium, sweet with bubblegum malt and spice.

Prefer this to the Yoichi NAS.

83/100
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Fri May 06, 2011 5:52 am

Ever had Mexican sweet bread? Think of baked bread and then top it off with a sweet or sugar coating.
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Postby Ganga » Fri May 06, 2011 5:55 am

dramtastic wrote:Miyagikyo NAS 43%

Nose: Is grassy, toffeed, citrussy and floral(cherry bloosoms?). Well balance and quite delightful.

Palate: Nicely creamy texture. Bubblegum(like the Yoichi NAS), sweet flower petals, cinnamon, nutmeg, chocolate, malt, then a little grassy again.

Finish: Is short-medium, sweet with bubblegum malt and spice.

Prefer this to the Yoichi NAS.

83/100


This almost sounds like a sherry finished Bladnoch
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Fri May 06, 2011 6:00 am

Tomatin 12 (it was handy)

Nose: nutmeg (is this from reading notes above), cinnamon, banana nut bread
Palate: pumpkin, all spice, oranges, cedar shavings
Finish: bold, rich and spicy
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Fri May 06, 2011 6:02 am

pkt77242 wrote:
Ganga wrote:Ever had Mexican sweet bread? Think of baked bread and then top it off with a sweet or sugar coating.


baked bread with powdered sugar? or something along that line?


Well, not so much powdered but rather baked onto the bread
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Postby Ganga » Fri May 06, 2011 6:29 am

Powers Gold Label

Nose: little bit of malt, fermenting fruits, estery
Palate: apricots and peaches sprinkled to cocoa
Finish: short with a little bite and then grilled apricots
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Fri May 06, 2011 6:31 am

Ganga wrote:Tomatin 12 (it was handy)

Nose: nutmeg (is this from reading notes above), cinnamon, banana nut bread
Palate: pumpkin, all spice, oranges, cedar shavings
Finish: bold, rich and spicy



Sounds allright G!
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Fri May 06, 2011 6:39 am

Hakushu 12 43%

Nose: Very fresh. Ultra clean black pepper, banana, vanilla custard, lemon tart, soap flakes, peat. Invigorating.

Palate: Pepper as if it's straight from the shaker into the malt but balanced. Earthy peat, banana over oats, toffee, cream, some orange and lemon.

Finish: Is medium length, with peppery spice and underpinned by clean malt and lingering earthy peat.

Recommended

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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Fri May 06, 2011 6:57 am

Glenfiddich 12, bought in early 2011

Nose: malt, green apples, light dry spices
Palate: cinnamon over sliced Granny Smith apples, cracked barley, straw
Finish: Moderate, but the maltiness builds.
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Postby Ganga » Fri May 06, 2011 7:18 am

Early Times

Nose: sweet bourbon notes, charcoal, nuts
Palate: beer batter, charcoal filter
Finish: almost hoppy with lots of anthracite
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby johan brugge » Fri May 06, 2011 9:24 pm

Ganga wrote:Glenfiddich 12, bought in early 2011

Nose: malt, green apples, light dry spices
Palate: cinnamon over sliced Granny Smith apples, cracked barley, straw
Finish: Moderate, but the maltiness builds.

I couldn't have said it better than you, Rich! I totally agree with the Granny Smith apples. I think it's even quite dominant at first when you've just openend the bottle.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby johan brugge » Fri May 06, 2011 9:28 pm

Ganga wrote:Sean's just trying to save it for himself. :P

Ok, I can be encouraged to add one...the one most handy.

Old Pulteney 12 (from Xmas gift box-2010)

Nose: gristy sea air, heather honey, peaches and cream
Palate: sweet bread (not sweet breads), honey, honeydew with sprinkled salt
Finish: long, salty and sweet

Really is the best OP 12 I've had. The aromas and palate just POP.

Nice notes, but I have kind of a hard time with the sweet bread. It's sweet(er) yes, but bread? Hmm ... It is indeed quite salty, soft and delicate. I never owned a OP12, but about 2 years ago I bought one for my father-in-law. And of course I helped him finish the bottle, although he did a pretty good job himself. He claimed there must have been a tiny crack in the bottle as it was emptied kinda fast. :mrgreen:
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Postby johan brugge » Fri May 06, 2011 11:58 pm

Chivas Regal 12yo.

Nose: kinda softly fruited (apples?), flowers, honey too with some fress hay. Some gentle sherryness pops up.

Palate: oily body, a tiny bit peppery and spicy. The fruityness stays more on the background.

Finish: middle long, but some more fresh fruits like in the nose this time.
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Postby johan brugge » Sat May 07, 2011 12:20 am

Lagavulin 16yo OB

Nose: very peaty and smoky with some sherry sweetness to it. A little briny too with some salt. And yet I can smell some burnt plastic too.

Palate: pretty much the same as in the nose (exept for the burnt plastic). But then there is some more ash kind of taste that comes along.

Finish: powerfull, peaty and smoky again.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby johan brugge » Sat May 07, 2011 12:39 am

Ardbeg Ten this time. My absolute favourite 'basic' Islay whisky.

Nose: smoky, brine, seaweedy, peaty (of course), ashes but there is something 'sharp' to it. I's not a soft, sweet nose.

Palate: do you like a peated and smoked smack in your face? I do. Brilliant whisky.

Finish: peaty and smoky and everything else I like about Islay whiskies.

Damn good whisky this is. I haven't tasted a bad batch so far. (touch wood ...)
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 3:14 am

johan brugge wrote:Chivas Regal 12yo.

Nose: kinda softly fruited (apples?), flowers, honey too with some fress hay. Some gentle sherryness pops up.

Palate: oily body, a tiny bit peppery and spicy. The fruityness stays more on the background.

Finish: middle long, but some more fresh fruits like in the nose this time.


I usually have found some fresh oakiness to the Chivas. Is there any of this that is apparent.?
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Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 4:09 am

Pop! Glenmo 10 Original 1.75 L

Nose: Lots of straw, rough grains, Pledge wax
Palate: roasted barley, lemons, bakery, gristy
Finish: moderate, sweetish barley notes and citrus

This is good but previous bottles were better.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 4:16 am

pkt77242 wrote:Glenfiddich 12 bought around Christmas 2010

N: cinnamon apples, granny smith apples, spices, a little barley and some vanilla. A touch of oak.
P: Dutch apple pie with a touch of vanilla. Apples, apples and apples, cinnamon and maybe a touch of brown sugar.
F: medium short on apples, vanilla, cinnamon and some barley.

Much better than my bottle form 4-5 years ago. Not a great whisky as it lacks complexity but rather enjoyable.

Just checking your notes versus mine. Note the apples in both...green apples. I like the fruitiness of the 12 compared to the malty structure in had 10 years ago.
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Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 4:34 am

Dalmore 12 43%, new vatting purchased October 2009.

Nose: red berries, vanilla, dry bbq spice rub, polished wood, sawdust-pine, some resin notes, old leather-tobacco pouch?
Palate: fresh pine 2x4 studs - not the kiln died but resiny, cooked berries, mahogany, bitter green oranges, currants, some light anise in the background
Finish: long and drying, oranges becoming a little less bitter and more sweet
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 4:40 am

I usually get melons like honeydew within Ardbeg.
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Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 4:49 am

HP 12 43%, flask, purchased early 2009

Nose: honey, smoke, heather, freshly oiled leather, raspberries (strange, never noted that before)
Palate: clover honey, whisps of smoke and sea air, Valencia oranges, dark chocolate, cocoa
Finish: lingering, smoke and honey just keep coming
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Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 5:11 am

Talisker 10 from around 2009

Nose: very sweet maltiness, some parafin, light dried spices, black pepper-ground
Palate: big vanilla and pepper hit, some lemon but not that sour, pizza dough, bee's wax with honey
Finish: kind of short but big, pepper vanilla lemons
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Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 5:15 am

pkt77242 wrote:Old Pulteney 12

N: Salted mango, melons (honeydew), a little barley and just a hint of smoke.
P: Salted melons, some mango, papaya, and the faint taste of smoke. Almost a touch of meatiness like smoked pork. A little barley
F: Medium on loads of salt, melons, some smoke and some barley.

A very nice whisky. Great for people just starting out.

Sounds mouthwatering. And kind of similar to what I noted.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Sat May 07, 2011 5:32 am

Ganga wrote:
pkt77242 wrote:Glenfiddich 12 bought around Christmas 2010

N: cinnamon apples, granny smith apples, spices, a little barley and some vanilla. A touch of oak.
P: Dutch apple pie with a touch of vanilla. Apples, apples and apples, cinnamon and maybe a touch of brown sugar.
F: medium short on apples, vanilla, cinnamon and some barley.

Much better than my bottle form 4-5 years ago. Not a great whisky as it lacks complexity but rather enjoyable.

Just checking your notes versus mine. Note the apples in both...green apples. I like the fruitiness of the 12 compared to the malty structure in had 10 years ago.



Guess their(Glenfiddich) lastest advertising for this one is spot on then.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 5:37 am

We try Dram, we try.... :lol:
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Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 5:40 am

Sean, much sweeter than the round shoulder bottling that immediately preceded it.

I'm noting that a repour of the Glenmo 10 is sweeter now. Works much better as a later dram.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Sat May 07, 2011 5:43 am

Nikka Pure Malt Black. 43%
Nose: A little bit floral. Peaches, oak, peat, varnish, and pineapple. Malty, complex and smooth.
Palate: Very malty, bubblegum (again from Nikka), pepper, nutmeg, sweet peat and gentle smoke. Well rounded.
Finish: Excellent length, with peat, pepper, nutmeg, mint chocolate and lingering smoke.

86/100
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Sat May 07, 2011 5:47 am

Nikka Pure Malt White 43%
This whisky is a vatting of Yoichi malt and an Islay whisky.
Nose: There is a good whiff of peat as well as walnuts, wet moss, leather, sea spray, pepper, wood stain (after breathing for a while) and nectarines. After some time, there is a hint of lemon.
Palate: Nicely oily (nut oil). The peat comes through big time. Also charcoal, pepper and a slight bitterness. The second sip adds walnuts, creamy macadamia and a kind of minted toffee to the picture.
Finish: Medium length with earthy/vegetal peat dominating; macadamia, spice and mint. Slightly drying.

87/100
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 5:53 am

Oh, I'm just drooling over the white. :thumbsup:
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby MaltMartyr » Sat May 07, 2011 5:55 am

Laphroaig 10 year old, 43% ABV

A well balanced sweet, smoky, a bit oily, licorice twig spice(minimal) peated iodine bonfire fit for a beach, snowstorm, or a break from the tedious challenges on a tallship crew. This single malt is a favorite of Prince Charles for obvious reasons. It remains on my best buy list and can range from $26.99 to $65.00, but can be easily purchased for under $60. This is a distinct Islay worth placing side by side to Ardbeg 10 for peat lovers.

I disagree with Ralfy. I liked it the moment that I tried it, but it was lost among other expressions with excessive peat expressions for a year.
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