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May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Sat May 07, 2011 5:58 am

Nikka All Malt. 40%
Nose: Maybe I've been sucked in by the name but this does indeed smell very malty. Lots of chewy toffee, walnuts, fresh cut timber, pears and pineapple.
Palate: Again nicely malty; pineapple, lemon sherbet, walnuts, nutmeg, dried mixed herbs and pepper.
Finish: Medium length: warming, malty and medium spiced.
Only costs about $10-12 in Japan
84/100.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 6:00 am

I find that I much prefer the Lappy 10 to the QC (to each his own). At various times it has been a big beach bonfire with brownies other times it's a bonfire with apples (very fruity).
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Sat May 07, 2011 6:19 am

Suntory Hibiki 12

Nose: Pinapple, fermented pear, licorice, fresh oak, varnish, more grainy than malty(it's usually the other way around with Nikka blends). After a while there is a hint of leather.

Palate: Fairly smooth if a little spirity. Adds oranges to the licorice, pear and oak. Then some sweetened grapefruit comes into play.

Finish: Medium length with the flavours of the palate with chocolate on top.

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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sat May 07, 2011 6:28 am

The Macallan 12 seems to have gone through some transformations over the last 15 years. There was this deep flavor profile and then it seemed to transform into something more akin to Fino than Olorosso. It seems to be transitioning back towards the older profile.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby dramtastic » Sat May 07, 2011 6:49 am

Mars Moltage Komagatake 10 Sherry Butt
Nose: Honey, sherry, blood oranges, lime, a little bit of oak, a kind of burnt toffee smell, and something maritime, like seaweed.
Palate: It is biscuity, with some bitter chocolate, nuts, malt, toffee and smoke.
Finish: Mainly toffee, nuts, smoke and some lingering bitterness.

This distillery has just started production again in Japan at this 10YO is available(older stock).
Nothing really wrong with this one it's just not my cuppa tea. You would probably really like it if you are a fan of HP12.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby johan brugge » Sat May 07, 2011 9:37 am

pkt77242 wrote:Nice notes Johan, I love how the Ardbeg 10 smacks you in the face with it's peatiness. Did you get any citrus from it?

No, not really. There is some sort of a sharp edge to it but I wouldn't call it citrus. I get citrus with the latest Supernova though. The smack in my face ususally takes a short while before it actually hits me. When I take a sip I can clearly taste the peat and smoke and all of a sudden there is a taste explosion and I get the shivers. Literally. That's when I get smacked in my face. Do you know that commercial 'Have you been spingoed yet?" where that orange fellow pops up and smacks people with both hands in their faces? Well, that's exactly it.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby johan brugge » Sat May 07, 2011 9:41 am

dramtastic wrote:Nikka Pure Malt White 43%
This whisky is a vatting of Yoichi malt and an Islay whisky.
Nose: There is a good whiff of peat as well as walnuts, wet moss, leather, sea spray, pepper, wood stain (after breathing for a while) and nectarines. After some time, there is a hint of lemon.
Palate: Nicely oily (nut oil). The peat comes through big time. Also charcoal, pepper and a slight bitterness. The second sip adds walnuts, creamy macadamia and a kind of minted toffee to the picture.
Finish: Medium length with earthy/vegetal peat dominating; macadamia, spice and mint. Slightly drying.

87/100

This sounds like a 'must buy' kind of whisky. :thumbsup:
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby johan brugge » Sat May 07, 2011 9:43 am

pkt77242 wrote:Highland Park 12 flask style bottle

N: Big notes of honey, heather, smoked ham, and a little peat and orange.
P: Big honey, heather and smoked ham (close to the nose). Then some very sweet orange, a hint of raisin and some peat. Some salt as well.
F: Medium on sweet orange, honey and lots of salt. keeps getting saltier as it lingers on the tongue.

Less sweet than when I first opened the bottle

Very nice notes, Sean. That's exactly how I feel about the HP12yo, but I never really liked this version. Neither the old style nor the new style.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby johan brugge » Sat May 07, 2011 9:46 am

Ganga wrote:I usually have found some fresh oakiness to the Chivas. Is there any of this that is apparent.?

No, not in my bottle. :mrgreen:
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby johan brugge » Sat May 07, 2011 4:33 pm

I'll post some more notes tonight or tomorrow. It's my youngest First Communion. Don't know if this proper English or not so I'm not sure that I can join you again this evening.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 12:41 am

Well, I'm back from helping a friend and will join in once some other folk show up today. I thought I had some Auchentoshans but I think I finished during "one of those nights." So I guess I have to make up for it with some other things.

See you guys in a bit. And Johan it's no problem. :thumbsup:
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 1:51 am

Sullivan's Cove, Australian Whisky, 40%

Nose: ground oats, dried out tangerines (more like when it happens naturally), old straw, ice that has evaporated in the freezer (concentrates the dissolved solids), pasta dust
Palate: that same ice, straw, grist
Finish: mild and short, gristy straw

Not bad but not exceptional. If I followed the scale of those that rate whisky, I'd say 77.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 2:24 am

I'm cheating a little here because I didn't want to get the Milford 10. Instead I'm having it's predecessor: Lammerlaw 10, 43%, NZ Single Malt

Nose: much sweeter-malty, sweet green grass, some meaty fruits, smoked cheddar
Palate: smoke, sharp cheddar, black forest ham, sub-italian bread
Finish: light but long, little bit of pepper and lots of malt
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 2:37 am

Rebel Yell Bourbon

You can't get more basic than this. $10 at Trader Joe's

Nose: peanut shell, caramel mixed with molasses, vanilla extract, wood spices
Palate: peanut/peanut oil, vanilla, molasses cookies
Finish: moderate, peanuts and cinnamon

Much softer than when I first opened this. Really is much better than what you think for the price point. I do recommend letting open up before really developing an opinion.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 2:58 am

For those that wonder about some of the not as familiar budget whiskies.....

Drumguish

Nose: Carmel (more of an artificial flavor), straw and grain, honey-the one sold in stores that comes in the plastic bear
Palate: lime, sage honey, kind of bitter
Finsih: long, fresh sage clippings

Yes, much more pleasant than usual.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 3:16 am

I'm most confused. The Drumguish is usually just awful. This was interesting and maybe not quite good, it was at least not offensive.

Chivas 12

Nose: big alcohol hit, polished oak, bay leaves, citrus
Palate: wax (but more like the wax used in seals), old oak, lemons, used cinnamon sticks,
Finish: while not long, it's a lot of what was in the palate.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 3:27 am

Something picked up in the last few weeks. Pop!

Glenlivet 12, bottled 2010/12/07. Anyone know if this is July or December?

Nose: pineapples, coconut, vanilla beans, very light oak, butter, then just a touch of malt
Palate: big vanilla and coconut (dried for cooking), tropical fruits, sugary cinnamon topping for Cinnabon, now some pears and apples
Finish: mild, lots of fruits including green apples and pears
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 3:28 am

Interesting differences in these two bottles Sean. Or maybe it's just our perceptions or the fact that mine was just opened.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 3:38 am

JW Red. Yup, a very basic available everywhere blended Scottish whisky.

Nose: waxy, cinnamon, black pepper
Palate: pepper infused wax, cinnamon
Finish: ditto

This is a little bit older bottling. I've had other bottlings more recently and they seem to be more "alcoholic". This is a very good blend, if a bit simple.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 3:40 am

pkt77242 wrote:
Ganga wrote:Interesting differences in these two bottles Sean. Or maybe it's just our perceptions or the fact that mine was just opened.


Yours sounds better. :thumbsup:


I thought yours sounded pretty good. Maybe we should each retry ours while reading the others notes.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS - Laphroaig 10 y.o.

Postby MaltMartyr » Sun May 08, 2011 3:51 am

Ganga wrote:I find that I much prefer the Lappy 10 to the QC (to each his own). At various times it has been a big beach bonfire with brownies other times it's a bonfire with apples (very fruity).


I agree, Ganga. The QC has a distinct flavor that I enjoy, but have a taste for less often than the 10 y.o. or Cask Strength Laphroig.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby MaltMartyr » Sun May 08, 2011 3:54 am

Springbank CV, 46% ABV

Type: No Age Statement [NAS] Single Malt Whisky

Avg. Price: $39.99

Nose: Smoke, maritime-like peat, honey, campfire, some subtle citrus.
Palate/Finish: Peaty smoky honeyed aged ginger ale with lime citrusy flavors and a refined spicy finish. It’s the type of small bubbled club soda and spice like, yet satisfying mouth feel that lingers well. This is not an Islay, but a well balanced no age statement Campbeltown. It is a great introduction to Springbank without as much spice and bravado that some Springbank expressions may bring to a newcomers glass.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 4:11 am

MM, it seems like the peat/smoke is much more forward in this expression than other Springbanks. Is this true?
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 4:17 am

Benromach 10

Nose: malty, ground pepper
Palate: oily, smoky, dried heather, peach blossoms
Finish: mild, sweet
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 4:37 am

4 Roses Bourbon, standard release

Nose: crushed vanilla beans, cinnamon molasses
Palate: vanilla extract, cinnamon, rough grains
Finish: long, cinnamon turning to cinnamon sticks (red candy)
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 4:48 am

I still want to try the Bunnie 12 but not sure how excited I am about it. Sounds too "burnt"
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 4:54 am

A couple of Grant's coming up

Grants Blend NAS.

Nose: mashed apricots, citrus, cracked barley, slight pepper note
Palate: rough graininess, waxy, lemons
Finish: short, lemon spritz on a bed of straw

Not my thing. Kind of rough and young.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 5:02 am

Another Grants

Grants Blend 12

Nose: tropical fruits-papaya pineapple, fresh oak
Palate: minty cinnamon, juicy fruit, sharp oak notes
Finish: moderately long, astringent oak

This came off as much lighter on the nose and much more aggressive on the palate compared to the NAS. What gives?
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 5:12 am

An Cnoc 12.

2 years ago, this wasn't available here in the States.

Nose: waxy pears (Bartletts?), malty notes
Palate: ripe tangerines, bananas smoothie, barley grist
Finish: light but long, transition from the big fruit to more of sweet grains.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 5:30 am

pkt77242 wrote:Caol Ila 12

N: Coal smoke, smoked fish, kippers, beef jerkey, big time salt and a touch of citrus.
P: Smoked fish, coal smoke, loads of salt and some citrus (Mostly lemon but with some lime, grapefruit and oranges). Some peat and greenness (kind of reminds me of young vegetation?).
F: Medium lenght on smoked fish, coal smoke and a huge salt note. Lemony with a touch of white pepper.

A very malt.

It's been a long time since I've had and OB 12 yo. I just wish it was near 55 here.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 5:40 am

pkt77242 wrote:Glenlivet 12

N: Pear and apples. some floral notes (carnations?), and a touch of butterscotch.
P: Starts on the pears and apples, then a big floral notes followed by some spice. Nutmeg, vanilla, and white pepper.
F: Shortish fiinish flowers, apples, apple peel and some white pepper. A touch of caramel.

Nice more floral than I remember.

So I'm retrying my Glenlivet 12 but reading Sean's notes.

Hm, nose yeah, I can see the pears but I really get more tropical fruits like pineapple. No real floral notes. Malty but not butterscotch.

Palate says I can really see pears and apples on the palate. Yes there are other fruits too. There is spice...cinnamon, nutmeg, vanilla. Not sure about the pepper right now.

Finish is rather short. Red apple peels, touch of cinnamon and caramel.

Yes there seems to be some differences but there is also some perception differences. Reading notes of the others can kind of show how much more similar the whiskies are.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby MaltMartyr » Sun May 08, 2011 7:08 am

Ganga wrote:MM, it seems like the peat/smoke is much more forward in this expression than other Springbanks. Is this true?

Yes, definitely!
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby johan brugge » Sun May 08, 2011 8:16 pm

I'm back again. Here are my notes of a Longrow CV I had late last year.

Nose: very soft, peaty and slightly smoky but above all: nice!! With water: WOOW!!

Palate: Lots of pepper, a bit of citrus, a tad of peat and smoke followed by these typical Campbelltown characteristics (minerals, fress hay, ...). When I added some water I nearly had to chew this whisky.

Finish: Again lots of pepper, slightly peated and some citrus.

Would I buy one of these? No, don't think so. Too much pepper to my liking.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby johan brugge » Sun May 08, 2011 8:41 pm

Nikka from the barrel this time.

Nose: Quite alcoholic at first, but after that it's just wonderfull. Spices, flowers, some honey, vanilla.

Palate:Sugar candy that tastes like oranges is the first thing I'm thinking. Spices too. With water: doesn't change much to the palate, but the spices are still a bit dominant.

Finish: Spicy, some citrus, rather short but it doesn't bother me at all.

This is a very good 'basic Japanese whisky'. Really.
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Re: May 2011 - BACK TO BASICS

Postby Ganga » Sun May 08, 2011 10:07 pm

johan brugge wrote:Would I buy one of these? No, don't think so. Too much pepper to my liking.


I really appreciate this kind of note. From this I get the impression that the whisky was not what you wanted rather than a poor whisky.
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