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August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

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Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:56 pm

Its really good sean. I generally like Banff though. Here's another from 74:

Inchgower 1974 Master of Malt 36yo 41.5%

Nose: Fruit basket with nectarines Peaches and seville oranges. Bit of a minty hit.
Palate: Extra Strong Mints, Fisherman's Friends, Victory Vs. Incredible intensity with a lovely mouthfeel. Lavender, salt and licqorice.
Finish: Long, menthol and eucalyptus.
Comment: This has wonderful intensity and would be great for a cold too.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:15 pm

Mosstowie 1975 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 40% old style map label

Nose: Apricots and fruit chutney. Lots of spicy notes and herbal tea notes.
Palate: A bit woody. Trades between sugary sweetness and cinammon and cloves. The sweetness and spiciness are rather in conflict, but its still great fun to drink.
Finish: Caster sugar sprinkled with cinammon, leaf tea and tobacco.
Comment: Complex and not well balanced, but lots to think about and great fun to drink. Just typical Lomond still stuff really.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:43 pm

Another friend amongst the obscure malts, this time from 1978:

Glenlossie 1978-2007 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 46%

Nose: Guava and mango with fresh pineapple. Some boiled sweets and a dash of peat smoke. Underlying beautifully clean malt. Excellent.
Palate: Deep, rich, sweet Glenlossie malt with a heap of cinammon.
Finish: A big basket of spices with a gentle peppermint finish.
Comment: This is a lovely malt. I tried it on one of my neighbours some time ago and he said it was the most beautiful whisky he had ever had. I wouldn't go quite that far, but it is really good stuff. Sadly I just finished my last bottle.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:05 am

Back to the 60s for the last one of the night:

Springbank 1965 Lombard Jewels of Scotland 46%

Nose: Stewed fruit compote, rhubarb, strawberry jam, almond nuttiness and gentle smoke.
Palate: Strawberry jam with lashings of sugar, cinammon, cloves. Some wood, but surprisingly fresh.
Finish: Masses of spice generates a bit of heat, but its not very long.
Comment: Fabulous nose and gentle palate, but it fades a bit after that.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:01 am

Willie JJ wrote:Another friend amongst the obscure malts, this time from 1978:

Glenlossie 1978-2007 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 46%

Nose: Guava and mango with fresh pineapple. Some boiled sweets and a dash of peat smoke. Underlying beautifully clean malt. Excellent.
Palate: Deep, rich, sweet Glenlossie malt with a heap of cinammon.
Finish: A big basket of spices with a gentle peppermint finish.
Comment: This is a lovely malt. I tried it on one of my neighbours some time ago and he said it was the most beautiful whisky he had ever had. I wouldn't go quite that far, but it is really good stuff. Sadly I just finished my last bottle.


Sounds very tasty Willie, in fact all the whiskies that you posted notes on tonight sound damn good. :thumbsup:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:46 am

Willie JJ wrote:Back to the 60s for the last one of the night:

Springbank 1965 Lombard Jewels of Scotland 46%

Nose: Stewed fruit compote, rhubarb, strawberry jam, almond nuttiness and gentle smoke.
Palate: Strawberry jam with lashings of sugar, cinammon, cloves. Some wood, but surprisingly fresh.
Finish: Masses of spice generates a bit of heat, but its not very long.
Comment: Fabulous nose and gentle palate, but it fades a bit after that.

I may have had this one at one of our past gatherings. Maybe it was a different Springbank but I seem to recall that it was rather light on the finish.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:59 pm

Glenlivet 1977 G&M 15yo 59.5%

Nose: Leather, licquorice, orange oil and cherries. Heaps of freshly cut grass. Bit of nose prickle. Marzipan and highland air. Water makes it more floral and the grass fresher.
Palate: Totally closed at full strength. A spot of water brings orange sherbet, sandalwood, cloves and tobacco. More water heightens the citrus.
Finish: Super sweet and spicy. Water calms the spice.
Comment: A very tightly wrapped dram from a really intense cask. Pretty good but not very refined.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:08 pm

Ganga wrote:I may have had this one at one of our past gatherings. Maybe it was a different Springbank but I seem to recall that it was rather light on the finish.

You left a tasting note in another place
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:40 pm

Mortlach G&M 1954-1998 40%

Colour: Burnt umber
Nose: Roast beef and the gravy from the bottom of the roasting tin. Stewed prunes, coffee grounds and milk chocolate. A little earthy and redolent of a dry cellar.
Palate: Initial prune juice but it quickly dries into a meaty cocktail. Highly seasoned dried meat with just a hint of underlying sweetness with cedar and camphor.
Finish: Very woody with lots of soft chewy spices.
Comment: One of those ancient Mortlachs that has become a meat feast. Not the best 1954 Mortlach I've had but I'd happily drink it all night (I wish).
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:23 pm

Glenlivet 33yo Cellar Collection 1967-2000 46%
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Nose: the classic Glenlivet pineapple is there, but its really concentrated like its been cooked for a long time. And there's passion fruit and mango and apricot jam with buttercream. There's a hint of mustiness.
Palate: Surprisingly refreshing with tart soft fruit coated in cream and brown sugar. A really lovely mouthfeel with dusty spices emerging.
Finish: The spices really come out to play here. Peppercorns and cloves with the sides of my tongue enveloped in warmth.
Comment: A lovely old Glenlivet.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:46 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Glenlivet 33yo Cellar Collection 1967-2000 46%
(Thanks to Mikeymad for this one)

Nose: the classic Glenlivet pineapple is there, but its really concentrated like its been cooked for a long time. And there's passion fruit and mango and apricot jam with buttercream. There's a hint of mustiness.
Palate: Surprisingly refreshing with tart soft fruit coated in cream and brown sugar. A really lovely mouthfeel with dusty spices emerging.
Finish: The spices really come out to play here. Peppercorns and cloves with the sides of my tongue enveloped in warmth.
Comment: A lovely old Glenlivet.

I really liked that one Willie. :smoke:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:57 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Glenlivet 33yo Cellar Collection 1967-2000 46%
(Thanks to Mikeymad for this one)

Nose: the classic Glenlivet pineapple is there, but its really concentrated like its been cooked for a long time. And there's passion fruit and mango and apricot jam with buttercream. There's a hint of mustiness.
Palate: Surprisingly refreshing with tart soft fruit coated in cream and brown sugar. A really lovely mouthfeel with dusty spices emerging.
Finish: The spices really come out to play here. Peppercorns and cloves with the sides of my tongue enveloped in warmth.
Comment: A lovely old Glenlivet.


My mouth is watering. :smoke:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:00 pm

Glenlossie 1976 27yo Gask & Thistle 46%
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Nose: Ah there's that deep grassy malt that I love so much. It's just so amazingly consistent with the mown lawn on a cool evening. There's rice pudding, poached pears and creme caramel too.
Palate: Mmm vanilla, coconut and malt extract. Sweet, but not sickly. Yummy.
Finish: Very peppery, with a little chilli and a lot of cinammon. Drying, but very long and great fun.
Comment: I love this distillery and this is a fine example.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:01 pm

Evening gents :D
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:12 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Evening gents :D


Evening Willie, I might even have 1 to contribute in a little bit.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:14 pm

Excellent :thumbsup:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:24 pm

Willie, you're making me thirsty, very thirsty. :thumbsup:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:29 pm

Port Ellen 8th Release 1978 29yo 55.3%

N: Bonfire, salt, oysters, clams, light peat, citrus and a touch of oak. Faint mint.
P: Starts on smoke and peat with oysters and citrus. Some brine and a touch of mint. Hint of nuts.
F: Medium long on bonfire, salt, oysters and citrus. peat and a touch of bitter oak show up. Mint.

A very good whisky. I really enjoy it. Thanks to Bryan for the sample.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:32 pm

Convalmore 1975 31yo Enjoy Whisky 46.9%

Nose: Fruity malt at first. Estery with acetone and then it becomes floral with carnations and geraniums. Finally there's some Bovril. Not at all unpleasant, just very confused.
Palate: Fruity again with soothing malt, but then definite notes of nail varnish.
Finish: Spikes of heat fire through sugar until the heat overwhelms the sweetness.
Comment: Not bad whisky, but it's really all over the place.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:34 pm

Ganga wrote:Willie, you're making me thirsty, very thirsty. :thumbsup:

Well get a dram then. If you don't have anything that fits the bill then bring what you've got. You know the rules as well as I do :D
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:41 pm

pkt77242 wrote:G+M Longmorn 30yo from about 2008 which means thatt it would have been distilled in the late 70's.

N: Big sherry and wood varnish. A little wood spice, and cinnamon. A little oak and leather
P: Big sherry and wood varnish. Wood spice and vanillla. Cinnamon with a touch of raisin.
F: Medium on sherry and oak. Some varnish, cinnamon, orange and leather.


Simple but very enjoyable.


Repoured tonight, very similar but add brown sugar notes to the nose and palate.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:42 pm

Willie JJ wrote:
Ganga wrote:Willie, you're making me thirsty, very thirsty. :thumbsup:

Well get a dram then. If you don't have anything that fits the bill then bring what you've got. You know the rules as well as I do :D

Oh, I've got some drams pulled. Just posting them in the WAYDN thread.
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Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:45 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Glenlossie 1976 27yo Gask & Thistle 46%
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Nose: Ah there's that deep grassy malt that I love so much. It's just so amazingly consistent with the mown lawn on a cool evening. There's rice pudding, poached pears and creme caramel too.
Palate: Mmm vanilla, coconut and malt extract. Sweet, but not sickly. Yummy.
Finish: Very peppery, with a little chilli and a lot of cinammon. Drying, but very long and great fun.
Comment: I love this distillery and this is a fine example.


Now that sounds good.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:50 pm

Ganga wrote:Oh, I've got some drams pulled. Just posting them in the WAYDN thread.

Multi-thread posting is too confusing for my tiny mind :?
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:51 pm

pkt77242 wrote:
Willie JJ wrote:Glenlossie 1976 27yo Gask & Thistle 46%


Now that sounds good.

It was good :D
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:55 pm

pkt77242 wrote:Signatory Port Ellen 1979 23yo refill sherry butt 43%

N: Big waxy notes with some peat, smoke, salt and hints of citrus. A little oak as well.
P: Starts waxy but the peat really kicks in after a second. Lots of malt, smoke and a touch of citrus. Just a hint of sherry.
F: medium short on wax, peat and salt. Shocked by the amount of salt on the finish with some citrus.

A nice whisky but the waxiest PE I have ever had.


Repoured tonight. Big notes of salt on the palate along with all the previous notes. Also a touch of tangerine as well.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:55 pm

Willie JJ wrote:
pkt77242 wrote:
Willie JJ wrote:Glenlossie 1976 27yo Gask & Thistle 46%


Now that sounds good.

It was good :D

"And Willie saw that it was good."
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Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:04 pm

pkt77242 wrote:Glenfarclas 1974 31yo OB

N: Big time sherry. Raisins, figs, cherries and walnuts. Wood varnish and sawdust. A hint of orange as well.
P: Big cherry, raisins and figs. Some wood varnish and walnuts as well. hints of vanilla and sawdust.
F: Long on cherries, sawdust, walnuts and raisins. Some vanilla, cooking spices and orange as well.

A very nice heavily sherried Glenfarclas.


Repoured this tonight. Some cinnamon and nutmeg. Hints of cumin. Very interesting. Spicier than last time.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:20 pm

Time for something a bit stronger:

Glenlivet Vintage 1972-1998 54.37%
Thanks to Jobi for this one

Nose: Blasting waves of pineapple chunks and other boiled sweets. Very nice indeed. About 26yo and fresh as a daisy. Could be Nadurra, but maybe just a little softer.
Palate: Pineapple wrapped in citrus. Sugared lemon drops, maybe a splash of grapefruit. Nothing soft about the mouthfeel.
Finish: Nothing very subtle here either. Hot spice exploding on the palate. The first hit is fierce but then it becomes addictive. More lemon coming through at the end.
Comment: What a beast of a dram. I love it.

Do you guys know anything about this stuff? I've written all the detail that was on the sample.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:25 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Time for something a bit stronger:

Glenlivet Vintage 1972-1998 54.37%
Thanks to Jobi for this one

Nose: Blasting waves of pineapple chunks and other boiled sweets. Very nice indeed. About 26yo and fresh as a daisy. Could be Nadurra, but maybe just a little softer.
Palate: Pineapple wrapped in citrus. Sugared lemon drops, maybe a splash of grapefruit. Nothing soft about the mouthfeel.
Finish: Nothing very subtle here either. Hot spice exploding on the palate. The first hit is fierce but then it becomes addictive. More lemon coming through at the end.
Comment: What a beast of a dram. I love it.

Do you guys know anything about this stuff? I've written all the detail that was on the sample.


Is this it? Pulled from whisky fun

Glenlivet 1972/1998 (54.3%, OB, Vintage, Code 2LVF010) 'Pure Single Malt Scotch Whisky'! Colour: full gold. Nose: this has nothing to do with the 36yo, it's rather more subtle but also shy and discreet, with only a few floral notes flying around at first sniffing, as well as a little vanilla. Gets then rather maltier and candied, with hints of cloves and a little mocha but it's still really low-key. A little fresh oak and hints of bubblegum. Let's add water: nada, niente, nichts! Water just killed it - and it'll never resurrect. Mouth (neat): more to my liking than on the nose when undiluted, more nervous but still round and very fruity (pineapple, Juicy Fruit, very ripe apricots). Quite honeyed and vanilled too. Good whisky now. With water: ah, now it worked, the whole getting smooth, fresh, even fruitier and more honeyed, also with more spices. Finish: it gets bigger and bigger now, while the nose stays almost dumb. Bizarre, bizarre, how bizarre... Comments: very good whisky for sure but maybe this one really suffered from the comparison with the highly exuberant Rumlivet. SGP:431 - 84 points.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:26 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Time for something a bit stronger:

Glenlivet Vintage 1972-1998 54.37%
Thanks to Jobi for this one

Nose: Blasting waves of pineapple chunks and other boiled sweets. Very nice indeed. About 26yo and fresh as a daisy. Could be Nadurra, but maybe just a little softer.
Palate: Pineapple wrapped in citrus. Sugared lemon drops, maybe a splash of grapefruit. Nothing soft about the mouthfeel.
Finish: Nothing very subtle here either. Hot spice exploding on the palate. The first hit is fierce but then it becomes addictive. More lemon coming through at the end.
Comment: What a beast of a dram. I love it.

Do you guys know anything about this stuff? I've written all the detail that was on the sample.


And this


http://www.whisky-online.com/glenlivet- ... tling.html
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:31 pm

That'll be it thanks Sean. The Whisky-Online note makes sense to me, but Serge's note doesn't. He must have been at the tail end of a heavy session to think that this stuff is shy and discreet. :o
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:51 pm

Willie JJ wrote:That'll be it thanks Sean. The Whisky-Online note makes sense to me, but Serge's note doesn't. He must have been at the tail end of a heavy session to think that this stuff is shy and discreet. :o


You are most welcome Willie. :thumbsup:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:07 am

That's me for tonight I think guys. See you tomorrow probably.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:23 pm

Another one from a Mikeymad parcel to start the night:

Tamdhu 1963 Cadenhead's 21yo 46%

Nose: Honeyed barley sugars, fruit salad with malted milk and a dusting of chaff. Love hearts.
Palate: Sherbet lemons and porridge. Very light and refreshing. Barley sugar again.
Finish: Sherbet and space dust. Incredibly mouth-watering with lots of lemon juice lingering for ages.
Comment: It's finished :cry:
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