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August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

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Postby Willie JJ » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:51 pm

Sticking with 1970

Dallas Dhu 1970 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 40% Old Brown Label

Nose: Delightfully floral with orange sherbetty notes. Oloroso is evident and its driving the aroma. Plenty of dried fruit and cake.
Palate: Sweet spiced oranges with plenty of oak. The floral spirit is a bit subdued by this mighty cask.
Finish: Long drying sweet spices that keep returning wave after wave. Really mouthwatering.
Comment: Not really a typical Dallas Dhu, it's mainly about the excellent cask. It really works for me.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby dramtastic » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:56 pm

Ganga wrote:How long before you participate Dram? You've gotta be able to add at least one to the mix.


Fathers Day here, so heading off for a family bbq breakfast in about 30 mins, won't be back home for another 4-5 hours.
And yeh I have one......
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:58 pm

Royal Ages De Luxe Quality Blend

Color: orange-amber
Nose: orange groves in springtime, orange blossom honey
Palate: smokey bees wax, old oak furniture
Finish: mellow, smokey and waxy
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:00 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Sticking with 1970

Dallas Dhu 1970 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 40% Old Brown Label

Nose: Delightfully floral with orange sherbetty notes. Oloroso is evident and its driving the aroma. Plenty of dried fruit and cake.
Palate: Sweet spiced oranges with plenty of oak. The floral spirit is a bit subdued by this mighty cask.
Finish: Long drying sweet spices that keep returning wave after wave. Really mouthwatering.
Comment: Not really a typical Dallas Dhu, it's mainly about the excellent cask. It really works for me.

That is just mouthwatering. My experience is similar to you with those older Conn Choice bottlings. Only a few that seemed to be on the downside.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:05 pm

Ganga wrote: My experience is similar to you with those older Conn Choice bottlings. Only a few that seemed to be on the downside.

Yes that Dallas Dhu was a lot better. Not used to getting so many poor ones.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:09 pm

White Horse Blend, NAS

Color: medium gold
Nose: fresh baked bread soaked in honey, sweet grassiness
Palate: peat smoke, roasted vegetables (think shish kabob), little bit salty and iodine
Finish: big smokey earthy finish
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:13 pm

pkt77242 wrote:
Ganga wrote:White Horse Blend, NAS

Color: medium gold
Nose: fresh baked bread soaked in honey, sweet grassiness
Palate: peat smoke, roasted vegetables (think shish kabob), little bit salty and iodine
Finish: big smokey earthy finish


sounds pretty good for an entry level blend.


It's probably the quality of the peated whisky used in the blend. I've been told the older White Horse blends included Lagavulin.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:18 pm

Haig & Haig Blend

Color: medium dark straw
Nose: lemon blossoms, old thrashed straw, green oak
Palate: burning straw, oak coals, deep fried barley balls
Finish: BIG. Lots of smoke, some diesel oil
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:22 pm

Ganga wrote: I've been told the older White Horse blends included Lagavulin.

No doubt about that. Probably until fairly recently I would have thought
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:25 pm

House of Lords 8 Blend

Color: orange gold
Nose: whisps of smoke wafting through barley, slight orange notes, waxy
Palate: orange blossom honeycomb, whispy smokiness, cracked pepper, light cinnamon
Finish: bold honeycomb with a touch of smoke
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:27 pm

Willie JJ wrote:
Ganga wrote: I've been told the older White Horse blends included Lagavulin.

No doubt about that. Probably until fairly recently I would have thought


I've heard a few things. One, the old Laga was the White Horse that then switched to Port Ellen maltings. Then the base switched to CI. Not sure how much of it is true but it certainly seems to be better than the more recent White Horse blends.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:36 pm

Another contrast:

Dallas Dhu 1971 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 40% Old Brown Label

Nose: Lots of old wood notes: wet blankets, must and dust. The floral DD spirit peeks through but it's well hidden. A bit sour and gingery.
Palate: Woody and bitter. Massively oaky. The spirit has no chance.
Finish: Spice and cigar boxes. It's all sandalwood and pencils.
Comment: This was left far too long in the cask.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:40 pm

I'm intrigued by the finish but the rest is a "pass".
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby johan brugge » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:48 pm

Glentauchers 35yo 1973 TWA.

Nose: Very soft, very sweet with lots of fresh fruit. A little bit of varnish and beeswax but nothing negative. It becomes a little sour after a while. With water: ripe bananas.

Palate: again lots of fresh sweet fruit. It's a terribly soft whisky with a firm body. It's almost oily-like. It goes down very easily, even at 50% vol. With water: peppery, but the rest stays the same. I actually liked it better without water.

Finish: long and sweet.

I let this one 'breath' for at least 30 minutes and it became much better.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:49 pm

Ganga wrote:I'm intrigued by the finish but the rest is a "pass".

DD is just too delicate to stand that kind of treatment imo
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:50 pm

Evening Johan :)
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:51 pm

Dimple Pinch 12 (yes 12, not 15)

Color: reddish gold
Nose: lemon bread, dying oak fire, honeycomb
Palate: orange blossoms, clover honey, smoke from the campfire
Finish: subtle waxy smoke
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby johan brugge » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:53 pm

Hi Willie. It's been a while already, huh?
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:56 pm

I have a soft spot for Glentauchers. Each I've had has been fun but they are few and far between here.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:02 am

And now some bourbons.

Hill & Hill Kentucky Straight Bourbon

Color: red oak
Nose: light minty character over a bed of nuts, maple syrup, vanilla extract, bananas
Palate: minty cocoa, vanilla, maple wood
Finish: much the same, but the vanill and maple starts to overpower any minty notes
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:08 am

Bourbon De Luxe

Color: Reddish bronze
Nose: cinnamon mixed into maple syrup
Palate: fresh crushed mint, nuts
Finish: more of the same

Actually rather bland compared to the H&H.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:10 am

johan brugge wrote:Hi Willie. It's been a while already, huh?

Indeed it has johan

1972 now

Caol Ila 1972 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 40% old style map label

Nose: Distant camp fires in a lemon grove. The gentle peat offers some hospital notes with hint of bleach and hemp rope.
Palate: Gentle on the palate with the smoke hitting before the sugared lemon drops.
Finish: Now the spice kicks in with cracking peppers and popping pods, but it's all so gentle that it's utterly charming.
Comment: This is stuff from the old distillery before it closed in April 1972. Like other CI I've tried from that era it doesn't seem to be as heavily peated as the make from the new distillery. It is great whisky.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:11 am

Ganga wrote:I have a soft spot for Glentauchers. Each I've had has been fun but they are few and far between here.

I agree and they are not common here either
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:14 am

Next up is the Daviess County bourbon. This is one I really like.

Color: reddish bronze to brass
Nose: dirty rye notes, roasted hazel nuts, dried mint leaves
Palate: cinnamon stick candy (HUGE), mint, rye, some nuttiness
Finish: continuation of the palate!
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:22 am

Ganga wrote:This is one I really like.

Nose: dirty rye notes,

You like them dirty :)
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:26 am

One more bourbon Old Yellowstone 6. This one was bottled sometime in the late 60s or very early 70s.

Color: reddish brown
Nose: sublime fresh mint plucked but not crushed, whispy almond and vanilla, mown lawn, slight oakiness
Palate: menthol cocoa, grass wedged in the teeth, almost like acorn meal
Finish: the "green" character just keeps going.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:28 am

Willie JJ wrote:
Ganga wrote:This is one I really like.

Nose: dirty rye notes,

You like them dirty :)

Is that what makes me a "dirty old man"? :angel:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:29 am

Two very nice Farcli Sean! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:51 am

Ganga wrote:Two very nice Farcli Sean! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I like the sound of the younger one more
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:06 am

Master of Malt Signatory Ayrshire 34, 1975, 45.2

Color: straw
Nose: ground wheat, late summer grass, light citrus
Palate: chewy green grass, more ground wheat, little bit of crushed pepper
Finish: long and grainy

I've had two different expressions from this distillery and like them both.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:14 am

Ardbeg 1978 (thanks Sean) :thumbsup:

Color: gold
Nose: fishing harbor (seaweed, iodine, salty, diesel oil), lemons, honeydew, white pepper
Palate: seaside bonfire (seaweed, wood fire), diesel oil, melons
Finish: long, bonfire and oily
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:31 am

pkt77242 wrote:G+M Longmorn 30yo from about 2008 which means that it would have been distilled in the late 70's.

N: Big sherry and wood varnish. A little wood spice, and cinnamon. A little oak and leather
P: Big sherry and wood varnish. Wood spice and vanillla. Cinnamon with a touch of raisin.
F: Medium on sherry and oak. Some varnish, cinnamon, orange and leather.


Simple but very enjoyable.

It sounds like a bottle would not last long if placed in the middle of me, Mikey, Willie and yourself. :D
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:35 am

Willie JJ wrote:
johan brugge wrote:Hi Willie. It's been a while already, huh?

Indeed it has johan

1972 now

Caol Ila 1972 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 40% old style map label

Nose: Distant camp fires in a lemon grove. The gentle peat offers some hospital notes with hint of bleach and hemp rope.
Palate: Gentle on the palate with the smoke hitting before the sugared lemon drops.
Finish: Now the spice kicks in with cracking peppers and popping pods, but it's all so gentle that it's utterly charming.
Comment: This is stuff from the old distillery before it closed in April 1972. Like other CI I've tried from that era it doesn't seem to be as heavily peated as the make from the new distillery. It is great whisky.


Sounds amazing Willie. Nothing like the newer stuff. I always get "vines" in the older CIs from post closure.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:46 am

pkt77242 wrote:G+M Secret Still 2.2 Speyside (Cragganmore) 1966 40yo sherry cask 45%

N: Beautifully sherried with a touch of walnuts and oak. light raisins, figs and red fruits. A touch of wood varnish as well.
P: Smooth sherry (raisins, figs, walnuts, etc) with some oak, wood varnish and cinnamon. Hints of white pepper, grass and just a faint whiff of smoke.
F: Medium long on raisins, oak, and some white pepper. Gets a little spicy on the finish (white pepper, cinnamon and just a faint chili note).

I could drink this whisky for the rest of my life. The perfect combo of complex yet easy to drink

Those may be my favorite set of notes on that whisky. Looks so yummy. Must pour Cragg 17 next.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby dramtastic » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:03 am

Suntory Gold Blended Malt. 42 per cent alcohol.
Nose: Not great. A little sherry and oak. Label says it is fully matured in Sherry casks. Doesn't taste like it. Also, plasticine, glue and cheap brandy.
Palate: A little better than the nose--bread dough, some lime and tangerine. Then ruined again by the plasticine and glue.
Finish: Bitter, with plasticine and, thankfully, short.

62/100
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