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August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:18 am

dramtastic wrote:Suntory Gold Blended Malt. 42 per cent alcohol.
Nose: Not great. A little sherry and oak. Label says it is fully matured in Sherry casks. Doesn't taste like it. Also, plasticine, glue and cheap brandy.
Palate: A little better than the nose--bread dough, some lime and tangerine. Then ruined again by the plasticine and glue.
Finish: Bitter, with plasticine and, thankfully, short.

62/100

Well at least the finish was short.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby dramtastic » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:23 am

Montgomerie's Clynelish Single Cask #2566 1974 32YO 43%

Nose: Tinned pears, varnish, peat, soap flakes, a little floral, vanilla, fresh cut timber

Palate: Big on sweet spices which makes this one feel like a more potent whisky than 43% would suggest. Some grapefruit to balance the sweetness, more timber, some ash/smoke, pear again. Third sip brings out pepper and macadamias.

Finish is medium and bitter/sweet with some ashy dryness thrown in along with peppered macadamias.

Overall quite tasty and fairly lively for 32 years old.

85/100
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:30 am

That Clynelish looks kinda tasty Dram.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby dramtastic » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:31 am

Kyowa Hakko Kogyo Diamond Pure Malt Whisky 43%
Think they still might make sake but not whisky for a few decades.

Nose: Red apples, sawdust, malt, sugared grapefruit, vanilla, biscuity, scotch-like.

Palate: Chunky malt, vanilla, fruit jubes, a little oily.

Finish: Short, malty, sweet and oily

Solid whisky with no peaks or troughs

80/100
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:28 am

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pkt77242 wrote:G+M Secret Still 2.2 Speyside (Cragganmore) 1966 40yo sherry cask 45%

N: Beautifully sherried with a touch of walnuts and oak. light raisins, figs and red fruits. A touch of wood varnish as well.
P: Smooth sherry (raisins, figs, walnuts, etc) with some oak, wood varnish and cinnamon. Hints of white pepper, grass and just a faint whiff of smoke.
F: Medium long on raisins, oak, and some white pepper. Gets a little spicy on the finish (white pepper, cinnamon and just a faint chili note).

I could drink this whisky for the rest of my life. The perfect combo of complex yet easy to drink

Those may be my favorite set of notes on that whisky. Looks so yummy.

It sounds fantastic. I'm jealous :mrgreen:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:30 am

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pkt77242 wrote:G+M Longmorn 30yo from about 2008 which means that it would have been distilled in the late 70's.

N: Big sherry and wood varnish. A little wood spice, and cinnamon. A little oak and leather
P: Big sherry and wood varnish. Wood spice and vanillla. Cinnamon with a touch of raisin.
F: Medium on sherry and oak. Some varnish, cinnamon, orange and leather.


Simple but very enjoyable.

It sounds like a bottle would not last long if placed in the middle of me, Mikey, Willie and yourself. :D

Or any subset of the above :dead:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:32 am

dramtastic wrote:Montgomerie's Clynelish Single Cask #2566 1974 32YO 43%

Nose: Tinned pears, varnish, peat, soap flakes, a little floral, vanilla, fresh cut timber

Palate: Big on sweet spices which makes this one feel like a more potent whisky than 43% would suggest. Some grapefruit to balance the sweetness, more timber, some ash/smoke, pear again. Third sip brings out pepper and macadamias.

Finish is medium and bitter/sweet with some ashy dryness thrown in along with peppered macadamias.

Overall quite tasty and fairly lively for 32 years old.

85/100

Mmmm elderly Clynelish. It sounds yummy.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:40 pm

Banff 1974 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 40% old style map label

Nose: Smells of an old room with dust and leather and some flowers in a vase. There's a bowl of citrus in there too, with dried tobacco and a bit of used ashtray.
Palate: It's all about the orange. Heaps of zest soaked in Grand Marnier and topped with marmalade. Just citrus everywhere.
Finish: Ashy and spicy with marmalade waves washing over it.
Comment: Not sure about the ashiness but otherwise this is great whisky.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:56 pm

Its really good sean. I generally like Banff though. Here's another from 74:

Inchgower 1974 Master of Malt 36yo 41.5%

Nose: Fruit basket with nectarines Peaches and seville oranges. Bit of a minty hit.
Palate: Extra Strong Mints, Fisherman's Friends, Victory Vs. Incredible intensity with a lovely mouthfeel. Lavender, salt and licqorice.
Finish: Long, menthol and eucalyptus.
Comment: This has wonderful intensity and would be great for a cold too.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:15 pm

Mosstowie 1975 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 40% old style map label

Nose: Apricots and fruit chutney. Lots of spicy notes and herbal tea notes.
Palate: A bit woody. Trades between sugary sweetness and cinammon and cloves. The sweetness and spiciness are rather in conflict, but its still great fun to drink.
Finish: Caster sugar sprinkled with cinammon, leaf tea and tobacco.
Comment: Complex and not well balanced, but lots to think about and great fun to drink. Just typical Lomond still stuff really.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:43 pm

Another friend amongst the obscure malts, this time from 1978:

Glenlossie 1978-2007 G&M Connoisseurs Choice 46%

Nose: Guava and mango with fresh pineapple. Some boiled sweets and a dash of peat smoke. Underlying beautifully clean malt. Excellent.
Palate: Deep, rich, sweet Glenlossie malt with a heap of cinammon.
Finish: A big basket of spices with a gentle peppermint finish.
Comment: This is a lovely malt. I tried it on one of my neighbours some time ago and he said it was the most beautiful whisky he had ever had. I wouldn't go quite that far, but it is really good stuff. Sadly I just finished my last bottle.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:05 am

Back to the 60s for the last one of the night:

Springbank 1965 Lombard Jewels of Scotland 46%

Nose: Stewed fruit compote, rhubarb, strawberry jam, almond nuttiness and gentle smoke.
Palate: Strawberry jam with lashings of sugar, cinammon, cloves. Some wood, but surprisingly fresh.
Finish: Masses of spice generates a bit of heat, but its not very long.
Comment: Fabulous nose and gentle palate, but it fades a bit after that.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:46 am

Willie JJ wrote:Back to the 60s for the last one of the night:

Springbank 1965 Lombard Jewels of Scotland 46%

Nose: Stewed fruit compote, rhubarb, strawberry jam, almond nuttiness and gentle smoke.
Palate: Strawberry jam with lashings of sugar, cinammon, cloves. Some wood, but surprisingly fresh.
Finish: Masses of spice generates a bit of heat, but its not very long.
Comment: Fabulous nose and gentle palate, but it fades a bit after that.

I may have had this one at one of our past gatherings. Maybe it was a different Springbank but I seem to recall that it was rather light on the finish.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:59 pm

Glenlivet 1977 G&M 15yo 59.5%

Nose: Leather, licquorice, orange oil and cherries. Heaps of freshly cut grass. Bit of nose prickle. Marzipan and highland air. Water makes it more floral and the grass fresher.
Palate: Totally closed at full strength. A spot of water brings orange sherbet, sandalwood, cloves and tobacco. More water heightens the citrus.
Finish: Super sweet and spicy. Water calms the spice.
Comment: A very tightly wrapped dram from a really intense cask. Pretty good but not very refined.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:08 pm

Ganga wrote:I may have had this one at one of our past gatherings. Maybe it was a different Springbank but I seem to recall that it was rather light on the finish.

You left a tasting note in another place
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:40 pm

Mortlach G&M 1954-1998 40%

Colour: Burnt umber
Nose: Roast beef and the gravy from the bottom of the roasting tin. Stewed prunes, coffee grounds and milk chocolate. A little earthy and redolent of a dry cellar.
Palate: Initial prune juice but it quickly dries into a meaty cocktail. Highly seasoned dried meat with just a hint of underlying sweetness with cedar and camphor.
Finish: Very woody with lots of soft chewy spices.
Comment: One of those ancient Mortlachs that has become a meat feast. Not the best 1954 Mortlach I've had but I'd happily drink it all night (I wish).
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:23 pm

Glenlivet 33yo Cellar Collection 1967-2000 46%
(Thanks to Mikeymad for this one)

Nose: the classic Glenlivet pineapple is there, but its really concentrated like its been cooked for a long time. And there's passion fruit and mango and apricot jam with buttercream. There's a hint of mustiness.
Palate: Surprisingly refreshing with tart soft fruit coated in cream and brown sugar. A really lovely mouthfeel with dusty spices emerging.
Finish: The spices really come out to play here. Peppercorns and cloves with the sides of my tongue enveloped in warmth.
Comment: A lovely old Glenlivet.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:46 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Glenlivet 33yo Cellar Collection 1967-2000 46%
(Thanks to Mikeymad for this one)

Nose: the classic Glenlivet pineapple is there, but its really concentrated like its been cooked for a long time. And there's passion fruit and mango and apricot jam with buttercream. There's a hint of mustiness.
Palate: Surprisingly refreshing with tart soft fruit coated in cream and brown sugar. A really lovely mouthfeel with dusty spices emerging.
Finish: The spices really come out to play here. Peppercorns and cloves with the sides of my tongue enveloped in warmth.
Comment: A lovely old Glenlivet.

I really liked that one Willie. :smoke:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:00 pm

Glenlossie 1976 27yo Gask & Thistle 46%
(Thanks again to Mikey)

Nose: Ah there's that deep grassy malt that I love so much. It's just so amazingly consistent with the mown lawn on a cool evening. There's rice pudding, poached pears and creme caramel too.
Palate: Mmm vanilla, coconut and malt extract. Sweet, but not sickly. Yummy.
Finish: Very peppery, with a little chilli and a lot of cinammon. Drying, but very long and great fun.
Comment: I love this distillery and this is a fine example.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:01 pm

Evening gents :D
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:14 pm

Excellent :thumbsup:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:24 pm

Willie, you're making me thirsty, very thirsty. :thumbsup:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:32 pm

Convalmore 1975 31yo Enjoy Whisky 46.9%

Nose: Fruity malt at first. Estery with acetone and then it becomes floral with carnations and geraniums. Finally there's some Bovril. Not at all unpleasant, just very confused.
Palate: Fruity again with soothing malt, but then definite notes of nail varnish.
Finish: Spikes of heat fire through sugar until the heat overwhelms the sweetness.
Comment: Not bad whisky, but it's really all over the place.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:34 pm

Ganga wrote:Willie, you're making me thirsty, very thirsty. :thumbsup:

Well get a dram then. If you don't have anything that fits the bill then bring what you've got. You know the rules as well as I do :D
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:42 pm

Willie JJ wrote:
Ganga wrote:Willie, you're making me thirsty, very thirsty. :thumbsup:

Well get a dram then. If you don't have anything that fits the bill then bring what you've got. You know the rules as well as I do :D

Oh, I've got some drams pulled. Just posting them in the WAYDN thread.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:50 pm

Ganga wrote:Oh, I've got some drams pulled. Just posting them in the WAYDN thread.

Multi-thread posting is too confusing for my tiny mind :?
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:51 pm

pkt77242 wrote:
Willie JJ wrote:Glenlossie 1976 27yo Gask & Thistle 46%


Now that sounds good.

It was good :D
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:55 pm

Willie JJ wrote:
pkt77242 wrote:
Willie JJ wrote:Glenlossie 1976 27yo Gask & Thistle 46%


Now that sounds good.

It was good :D

"And Willie saw that it was good."
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:20 pm

Time for something a bit stronger:

Glenlivet Vintage 1972-1998 54.37%
Thanks to Jobi for this one

Nose: Blasting waves of pineapple chunks and other boiled sweets. Very nice indeed. About 26yo and fresh as a daisy. Could be Nadurra, but maybe just a little softer.
Palate: Pineapple wrapped in citrus. Sugared lemon drops, maybe a splash of grapefruit. Nothing soft about the mouthfeel.
Finish: Nothing very subtle here either. Hot spice exploding on the palate. The first hit is fierce but then it becomes addictive. More lemon coming through at the end.
Comment: What a beast of a dram. I love it.

Do you guys know anything about this stuff? I've written all the detail that was on the sample.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:31 pm

That'll be it thanks Sean. The Whisky-Online note makes sense to me, but Serge's note doesn't. He must have been at the tail end of a heavy session to think that this stuff is shy and discreet. :o
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:07 am

That's me for tonight I think guys. See you tomorrow probably.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:23 pm

Another one from a Mikeymad parcel to start the night:

Tamdhu 1963 Cadenhead's 21yo 46%

Nose: Honeyed barley sugars, fruit salad with malted milk and a dusting of chaff. Love hearts.
Palate: Sherbet lemons and porridge. Very light and refreshing. Barley sugar again.
Finish: Sherbet and space dust. Incredibly mouth-watering with lots of lemon juice lingering for ages.
Comment: It's finished :cry:
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Ganga » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:46 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Another one from a Mikeymad parcel to start the night:

Tamdhu 1963 Cadenhead's 21yo 46%

Nose: Honeyed barley sugars, fruit salad with malted milk and a dusting of chaff. Love hearts.
Palate: Sherbet lemons and porridge. Very light and refreshing. Barley sugar again.
Finish: Sherbet and space dust. Incredibly mouth-watering with lots of lemon juice lingering for ages.
Comment: It's finished :cry:


Ah, that was a joyous whisky. Glad you liked it.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:11 pm

SMWS 2.35 (Glenlivet) 1976-2001 61%

Colour: burnt umber
Nose: Treacle and seville oranges. Cointreau soaked raisins and fruitcake. Burnt toast and marmalade. A spot of water removes the charcoal and freshens the fruit.
Palate: A big mouthful of oloroso sherry and dark oxford cut marmalade. Water turns the marmalade into raspberry jam.
Finish: Astonishing interplay between bitter oranges and sweet sherbet. Water lengthens it until you think your mouth will never stop watering.
Comment: One of those fantastic casks that the Society used to get. I haven't found anything this good on the list for years.
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Re: August 2011 Live Tasting - Pre 1980 Distillates

Postby Willie JJ » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:34 pm

Ganga wrote:Ah, that was a joyous whisky. Glad you liked it.

Absolutely first rate stuff. I guess at the time that it was bottled the brokers and bottlers were able to pick from the best of a vast range of casks. The casks that are available from brokers right now are really not good. Thank goodness I have stocks.
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