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2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby les taylor » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:20 pm

Sorry guys just had to watch the rugby final preview for tomorrow I feel all of a tremble already. By the way the bbqed spicy chicken wings were great.


Talisker Distillers TD-S:5HT 45.8abv. Distilled 1992 bottled 2005
Nose : Just slightly peaty and orangey
Palate : Sweet christmas pudding orange peel and peppery.
Finish : Dates and cinnamon. A very nice after taste that hangs there.
Comment : Smooth the sherry comes through an excellent after dinner dram.


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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Spirit of Islay » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:26 pm

Well i'm off guys , have had a great night
Goodnight
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Mr Fjeld » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:27 pm


Talisker DE "Amoros wood"
Nose : Not as smoky as I had expected - not really that sweet either but a subtle sweetness resembling rose water. Faintly nutty
Palate : Oh, nice! Makes an impression and follows up as promised in the nose. Again, a subtle sweetness and something nutty, then smoke which clinges on to the sides of the mouth
Finish : Could perhaps be longer but not really disappointing
Comment : I really like it. Although it could have a longer lasting finish it's still mouthfilling and nice

The way this tasting goes I'll probably end up like a "mini-Musky" with 80ish something bottles open..... :P
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby K-Mile » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:28 pm

Spirit of Islay wrote:Well i'm off guys , have had a great night
Goodnight


Goodnight SOI, good to have you here. Thanks for your very descriptive and informative notes!
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Mr Fjeld » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:30 pm

Yes, good night Gordon! Great to see you here!
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Muskrat Portage » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:32 pm

Musky wrote:Talisker Distillers Edition TD-S:5 AM (1986) 45.8 abv
Nose : Oily, with a sea breeze thrown in, redolent of Jeraz Amoroso sherry, succulent aroma of cherries, with an undercurrent of Malt
Palate : Sweet, malty with a tinge of iodine, a hint of chocolate at the end
Finish : Long and warming, the mouth salivates at the after effect of the sherry and alcohol. Has a nice mouth prickle to it.
Comment : Mr Copeland, you distilled a fine dram


Les Taylor wrote:Talisker Distillers TD-S:5HT 45.8abv. Distilled 1992 bottled 2005
NOSE Just slightly peaty and orangey
PALATE Sweet christmas pudding orange peel and peppery.
FINISH Dates and cinnamon. A very nice after taste that hangs there.
COMMENT Smooth the sherry comes through an excellent after dinner dram.
Distilled 6 years apart and having the same abv, yet both have markedly different characteristics outside of the sherry flavour. One isn't better than the other just different. I take it the Jeraz Amoroso style of cask is still used for this DE version?

Interesting, I wonder what Christian's will have for notes...
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Mr Fjeld wrote:Talisker DE "Amoros wood"
Nose : Not as smoky as I had expected - not really that sweet either but a subtle sweetness resembling rose water. Faintly nutty
Palate : Oh, nice! Makes an impression and follows up as promised in the nose. Again, a subtle sweetness and something nutty, then smoke which clinges on to the sides of the mouth
Finish : Could perhaps be longer but not really disappointing
Comment : I really like it. Although it could have a longer lasting finish it's still mouthfilling and nice

I have to agree, the smoke I expected wasn't really there. These all sound like drams that would be great for a HTH someday, shall we meet say in the midAtlantic?
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby K-Mile » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:35 pm

Muskrat Portage wrote:Distilled 6 years apart and having the same abv, yet both have markedly different characteristics outside of the sherry flavour. One isn't better than the other just different. I take it the Jeraz Amoroso style of cask is still used for this DE version?

Interesting, I wonder what Christian's will have for notes...
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Good observation Musky! This is what makes this interaction fun and educating.

My recently bought 10yo identifies more with the 1992 DE than your notes, so might be a recent development spanning more expressions of Talisker.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Muskrat Portage » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:38 pm

And goodnight to you Gordon, I'm falling behind here. It was a privelege to dram in absentia with you. A very enticing collection you have there.

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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Mr Fjeld » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:38 pm

Peter - you'll find my notes a few posts below...

Again, I need more patience.....
This one also opens up quite a lot in the glass when left. It has become more nutty but the smoke is also more present - and ginger - big time ginger! Interestingly, I find this "wood finish" to be more subtle than what I usually think of as a "finish" . Compared to the Caol Ila DE (Muscatel finish) this one only have a "twist" or a suggestion of another finish whereas the Caol Ila is more affected by the wine cask.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Muskrat Portage » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:40 pm

Joy is home, time to go grocery shopping, see you in an hour or so, we may have to go out for supper too!

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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Muskrat Portage » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:41 pm

Mr Fjeld wrote:Peter - you'll find my notes a few posts below...

Again, I need more patience.....
This one also opens up quite a lot in the glass when left. It has become more nutty but the smoke is also more present - and ginger - big time ginger! Interestingly, I find this "wood finish" to be more subtle than what I usually think of as a "finish" . Compared to the Caol Ila DE (Muscatel finish) this one only have a "twist" or a suggestion of another finish whereas the Caol Ila is more affected by the wine cask.

Yeah, I noticed, I went back and edited my post to include it so I could compare a bit easier. Really sounds like a pleasing to own dram.

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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby K-Mile » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:42 pm

Muskrat Portage wrote:Joy is home, time to go grocery shopping, see you in an hour or so, we may have to go out for supper too!

Muskrat


Enjoy, and see you in a while!
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Mr Fjeld » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:55 pm

I'm going to say goodbye for now as well. I'll try to come back in a couple of hours to see if anyone is present. If so I'll join in!
So far it's been great!
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby K-Mile » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:56 pm

Mr Fjeld wrote:I'm going to say goodbye for now as well. I'll try to come back in a couple of hours to see if anyone is present. If so I'll join in!
So far it's been great!
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Have a good nap or night, and see you around! I'll be behind the computer for an hour or so at least, so we'll see where it goes.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby les taylor » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:43 pm

Nite guys it's 20 to midnight time for bed. For my first tasting online I really enjoyed it. I must master the live button to get more out of it. I did get Mrs Les to join in as well and some of her comments were included. When I told her it was an internatinal tasting of Talisker's she was quite impressed.

Thanks guys for all your imput. And well done Mp a great show.


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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby K-Mile » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:45 pm

les taylor wrote:Nite guys it's 20 to midnight time for bed. For my first tasting online I really enjoyed it. I must master the live button to get more out of it. I did get Mrs Les to join in as well and some of her comments were included. When I told her it was an internatinal tasting of Talisker's she was quite impressed.

Thanks guys for all your imput. And well done Mp a great show.


Les. :)


Thanks for showing up, and your input. Have a good night!

I just poured myself my second last dram of HP12...
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:53 pm

Ok, I'm skipping out a little early from work this afternoon. Yes, I'm taking some of it home to work on (but not tonight :lol: ). I should be home by 5 PM Pacific, 7 PM in Winnipeg.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:04 am

Well, I'm here with Taliskers in hand. Hopefully some of you will show back up and maybe a few new comers from the far west. First one up is the TD-S:5HT 1992 DE 45.8 in the black Talisker box. Let's see what a couple different glasses do: glencairn, sm brandy, nosing (Ardbeg), Celtic Malts (similar to glencairn except lip is flaired.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Muskrat Portage » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:15 am

Ganga:
Lonely? I'm back, done groceries and dinner. What's up next?
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby K-Mile » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:23 am

I'm still here, about to pour myself an Ardbeg 10, or Bowmore Dawn, to finish the night and go to sleep.

Had a HP12 in between, but after the Talisker that took some getting used to again...
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:24 am


TD-S:5HT 1992 DE 45.8, glencairn
Nose : the sea is quite apparent. Is that hints of cocoa? Light orange peels.
Palate : Wow, smoked peat/seaweed. A little ripe oranges. A little bit oily on the palate.
Finish : Moderately long with smoke and seaweed returing.
Comment : This is a very nice expression from a wonderful distillery.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:26 am

Good to see you guys again. I've got four glasses of the DE, wait, make that three glasses of the DE. :lol:
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:36 am


TD-S:5HT 1992 DE 45.8, sm brandy
Nose : very similar to the glencairn. However, the cocoa is much more apparent as is the orange peels.
Palate : Still a little oily. Smoke/peat is less dominant and the oranges comes through much more brightly.
Finish : A little bit longer with the smoke coming through at the end.
Comment : I love the presentation of this glass.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:38 am

You still here Musky? :?
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Muskrat Portage » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:41 am

Musky wrote:Talisker Distillers Edition TD-S:5 AM (1986) 45.8 abv
Nose : Oily, with a sea breeze thrown in, redolent of Jeraz Amoroso sherry, succulent aroma of cherries, with an undercurrent of Malt
Palate : Sweet, malty with a tinge of iodine, a hint of chocolate at the end
Finish : Long and warming, the mouth salivates at the after effect of the sherry and alcohol. Has a nice mouth prickle to it.
Comment : Mr Copland, you distilled a fine dram

Les Taylor wrote:Talisker Distillers TD-S:5HT 45.8abv. Distilled 1992 bottled 2005
NOSE Just slightly peaty and orangey
PALATE Sweet christmas pudding orange peel and peppery.
FINISH Dates and cinnamon. A very nice after taste that hangs there.
COMMENT Smooth the sherry comes through an excellent after dinner dram.

Ganga wrote:TD-S:5HT 1992 DE 45.8, glencairn
Nose : the sea is quite apparent. Is that hints of cocoa? Light orange peels.
Palate : Wow, smoked peat/seaweed. A little ripe oranges. A little bit oily on the palate.
Finish : Moderately long with smoke and seaweed returing.
Comment : This is a very nice expression from a wonderful distillery.

Mr Fjeld wrote:Talisker DE "Amoros wood"
Nose : Not as smoky as I had expected - not really that sweet either but a subtle sweetness resembling rose water. Faintly nutty
Palate : Oh, nice! Makes an impression and follows up as promised in the nose. Again, a subtle sweetness and something nutty, then smoke which clinges on to the sides of the mouth
Finish : Could perhaps be longer but not really disappointing
Comment : I really like it. Although it could have a longer lasting finish it's still mouthfilling and nice

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Two identical whiskies tasted, with different perspectives on the flavours by Les and Ganga. Not dissimilar but neither do your tastes and experiences mirror each other. Puts a bit of a reality check on the notes published by experts. We all have our own strengths and weaknesses (anosmia, colds) to work within the only substative difference is the "experts" are better wordsmiths than we. Is this why we pay for them to write books that we can purchase, so we can develop understanding from their use of the written language.

Despite the intervening years, these DE are not all that disimilar. Tell me, Ganga, who was the master distiller for your bottle? Was it M. Copland? If not, then they were very similar in choices made for the DE.
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Edit: Ganga: Yes, I'm still here and what's next?
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:46 am


TD-S:5HT 1992 DE 45.8, Ardbeg nosing
Nose : Hey, there's hints of caramel below all that smoke and peat. Also a little heather/grasses and flowers. Maybe a little overripe orange peal. The seaweed is not as apparent and neither is any cocoa.
Palate : Very intense presentation of smokey peat and iodine.
Finish : Much longer on this one. Very smokey.
Comment : My favorite presentation so far :lol:
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby mikeymad » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:47 am

On-line.

Shout out from the West Coast.

Starting with a wee dram (okay not so small) of the Standard 10yo.

Talisker 10yo (45.8%, Original Bottling, bought in 05)

Comes right off with some spice. Will explore from there.

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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:48 am

Muskrat Portage wrote:Two identical whiskies tasted, with different perspectives on the flavours by Les and Ganga. Not dissimilar but neither do your tastes and experiences mirror each other. Puts a bit of a reality check on the notes published by experts. We all have our own strengths and weaknesses (anosmia, colds) to work within the only substative difference is the "experts" are better wordsmiths than we. Is this why we pay for them to write books that we can purchase, so we can develop understanding from their use of the written language.

Despite the intervening years, these DE are not all that disimilar. Tell me, Ganga, who was the master distiller for your bottle? Was it M. Copland? If not, then they were very similar in choices made for the DE.
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Edit: Ganga: Yes, I'm still here and what's next?


Well, I'm still on the DE and as you can see three different glasses had led to three slightly different experiences as well. I have one more dram of the DE and then I will move along to the 175th.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Muskrat Portage » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:49 am

Ah. your using different glassware, you have depths I'd never imagined. An excellant idea. I'll run and get a brandy snifter, and my similar to a glencairn Nova Scotia crystal glassware. I'll take a page from your book and try the same whiskies with differing containers.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby K-Mile » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:51 am

Nice lineup of notes, similarites and differences, but nothing out of the ordinary (in the different people's experiences I mean, how glassware affects the finish indicates how much whisky tasting depends on whisky nosing). We can pay the experts to do this for us, but trying it on the spot and compare it with friends (although virtual) is much more fun and rewarding.

I am on to my last dram of the night, an Ardbeg TEN. I'll leave you with the Taliskers, don't want to spoil the Live Tasting with off-topic dramming ;)

Musky, you really know how to keep it going :)

BTW: Is there a hint of acetic acid in my Ardbeg Ten? I would have sworn I just smelled some (really good) vinegar in there...
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Muskrat Portage » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:56 am

K-Mile wrote:Nice lineup of notes, similarites and differences, but nothing out of the ordinary (in the different people's experiences I mean, how glassware affects the finish indicates how much whisky tasting depends on whisky nosing). We can pay the experts to do this for us, but trying it on the spot and compare it with friends (although virtual) is much more fun and rewarding.

I am on to my last dram of the night, an Ardbeg TEN. I'll leave you with the Taliskers, don't want to spoil the Live Tasting with off-topic dramming ;)

Musky, you really know how to keep it going :)

Don't blame it on me! Ganga and Mikey have been chomping at the bit all day, haven't you boys! Seriously thanks K-mile and y'know post your comments on the Ardbeg, you have a good grasp of whisky, and I for one would like to see what you think of the Ardbeg.
We couldn't do this alone, it's better with all of us here.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:56 am


TD-S:5HT 1992 DE 45.8, Celtic Malts glass
Nose : First notes are definitely in the caramel range. Seaweed yes. Smoke/peat?
Palate : Nice mellow smoke/peat. Hints of orange peals. A little oily. Nice lower spiciness.
Finish : Longer than others with the spices coating the tongue and only hints of the smokiness of this liquid gold.
Comment : Very pleasing dram.


I can't say that anyone of these in particular are better; just a little different presentation.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:00 am

K-mile. Great to see you still up. Enjoy your Ardbeg and sleep well.
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:03 am

Well it's onto the 175th. Four more glasses. :wink:
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Re: 2nd Live Tasting - Fri 19 Oct 8.00pm GMT

Postby mikeymad » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:05 am

Thanks for sticking it out k-Mile. You are Da Man.

I am enjoying the Ardbeg 10yo as my first dram of the evening. More Peat showing up in this sample that I remember, A nice sweetness in the finish as well keeps me coming back. Overall I really like the dram, not sure if I would have it as a daily drinker, but it comes close.

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