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The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:45 pm

Welcome to The Glenlivet Live Forum Tasting Part 2.

The Whiskies

  • The Glenlivet 12 Years Old
  • The Glenlivet 15 Years Old French Oak Reserve
  • The Glenlivet 18 Years Old
  • The Glenlivet Nadurra

Date and Time

  • Friday 23rd November 6:00pm GMT

Special guest
Ian Logan - The Glenlivet International Brand Ambassador

For those of you who do not know what these are about they run for generally 12+ hours and we all sit down (at various times) to taste a range of whiskies and share our notes and comments on the forum.

They are a great way to meet people on the forum, chat about your experiences and learn something new about the whiskies you have, and we all end up having a good time.

You can follow the tastings on this page or click this link to open our live tastings page.

Please feel free to join in and post any comments or tasting notes you have.

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Start time - 6:00pm GMT
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:06 pm

Good evening (morning/afternoon) ladies and gents. The bar is open for your tastings. :thumbsup:

I know some samples have been delivered and some not, and I think a few of you will be in for the later sessions. Musky, yours are on their way and should be with you in the next few hours, lawschool all ready?, DiB. got them?

Tonight I will be mainly drinking (oooops, sampling) the 18 and Nadurra.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:08 pm

Ian, two questions for you straight off.

1. What is the supply of the 25 like in the US and can you recommend a retailer?
2. Can you send MT some promotional material for the bar?
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ian Logan » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:21 pm

Matt,

I have been in contact with MT already with some suggestions and ideas for the future.
With regard to the Glenlivet XXV it will be launched in the domestic US market in early 08
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:22 pm

Glenlivet 18

The Glenlivet
18 Year Old
Sweet, stewed fruits, apples, pears, alternating between sherry and bourbony
Smooth and creamy, nice sweet sherry notes with all the fruity bits you would expect from Glenlivet. Some oak and wood in the background. As Ian says, perfect balance. A bit of sherbert.
Mellows gently, with all the notes coming back in waves before ending with a slight woody notes.
If the 12 and 15 are before dinner, then this is for after dinner. Works well with a chocolate cheesecake. Coffee brings out the sweet notes and a real sherry character.
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18 Years Old
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Single Malt
Speyside
A few drops
None
Glencairn
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During last weeks session I kind of skipped over the 18 a bit, but now coming back to it I am starting to 'get it'....
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:27 pm

Ian, any snippets of info you can give about the 18, cask types and availability world wide...
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:34 pm

Lawschool, glad you got your 'perfume samples' :D
Look forward to your comments later when the kids have gone off to bed. If you haven't had the Nadurra before I think you will be impressed.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ian Logan » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:39 pm

Folks,

Sorry I am not being rude, just having a problem or two with my posts at the moment.
The 18yo is probaly our most successful medal winner of the past 3/4 years even winning the trophy for the best malt at the 2006 ISC.
The majority is still matured in european oak with an increased amount in good quality butts which really help with the spice and toffee on the nose. It is also an influence on the maltyiness, bitter oranges and chocolate on the palate.
The 18yo is my personal favourite and also of retired Master Distiller Jim Cryle.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:49 pm

Thanks Ian, seems to be working.....
I don't get the chocolate straight away, but I see what you mean about bitter oranges.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:01 pm

Hey, just rolling up to the 'puter in bathrobe. Ok, I just wanted to say that as I participated in Black Friday for a little bit. So good afternoon/evening to you all and good morning to MikeyMad...well as soon as he joins us anyway.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:09 pm

I will be pouring into three glasses today (does that make me Three Glass Ganga :wink: ). I have three Glenlivets to pour as well: Glenlivet 12, Glenlivet 15 French Oak, and Trader Joe's Glenlivet 15.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ian Logan » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:13 pm

Ganga,

Not sure of the history of the Trader Joe 15 but interested in what differences you come across in the other two
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:15 pm

The Glenlivet 16 Nadurra Batch 1007D

The Glenlivet
Nadurra
Sweet aromatics, candy floss, sweets, pear drops, fizzy stuff, nice florals, but the sweeties really come through
Quite big and bold, but clean, fruity but with lots of the candy floss and pear drops.
Becomes quite dry after all that
I cant get past all the notes above, but eventually a nice malt and oak note comes through. Very nice, big and bold flavours
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16 Years Old
0
0%
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Single Malt
Speyside
Down to 40ish
None
Glencairn
Batch 1007D

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:thumbsup: :angel:

Better than putting it all in one glass Ganga :wink:
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:17 pm

Glenlivet 12 yo, small brandy glass

The Glenlivet
12 Year Old
pears, very light maltiness, vanilla
citrus and pears, malty, touch of toffee
moderate with the citrs tailing off
Isnt this a nice way to start off the morning.
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12 Years Old
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Single Malt
Speyside
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Small brandy glass
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ian Logan » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:20 pm

Ganga,

Ita after 11am where you are, if it was Scotland the bars would be open :D
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:23 pm

A perfect breakfast dram, maybe with a bit of toast and honey. :)
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ian Logan » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:24 pm

Matt,

It so hard to pick out all the fruits with Nadurra but for me its apples and banana on the nose.Water makes it a little biscuity and citrus.
For the palatemouth coating, fizzy, vanilla.
Its a Glenlivet for the conniseur, all first fill american wood. Adds another layer above and beyond the 12yo.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:25 pm

Ian Logan wrote:Ganga,

Not sure of the history of the Trader Joe 15 but interested in what differences you come across in the other two


It's a Glenlivet 15 yo, 40%, bottle by Alexander Murray & Co., Broxburn, Scotland.

Trader Joe's is a chain of stores that markets itself as being your little local corner market except that they generally have a little bit better pricing than the corner market store and they will carry a little higher grade product.

Over the last 4 or 5 years they've been carrying whiskies bearing their name bottled by various companies such as Duncan Taylor. They have had bottlings of Bowmore, Macallan, Aberlour, Glenlivet, and Longmorn. The quality of the product varies quite a bit but for the pricing, I generally have been willing to try most of the products offered. One that I missed was a Glenlivet 16.

I believe that I tried the one you were asking about last Friday but after you had already signed off.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ian Logan » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:29 pm

Ganga,

There are a few whisky companies/based around Broxburn so its hard to know too much about this one.
Broxburn is in the central belt of Scotland between Glasgow and Edinburgh where most bottling sites are. Easier for transport and shipping etc.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:32 pm

Glenlivet 12, nosing glass

The Glenlivet
12 Year Old
Pears are still there but there are also notes of hard green apples. A little bit of malt and toffee combined with oak shavings
Not quite fully ripe pears with toffees and some charred oak in the background
A little shorter
Amazing difference when switching glasses
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12 Years Old
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Single Malt
Speyside
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:33 pm

Ian Logan wrote:Matt,
It so hard to pick out all the fruits with Nadurra but for me its apples and banana on the nose.Water makes it a little biscuity and citrus. For the palatemouth coating, fizzy, vanilla. Its a Glenlivet for the conniseur, all first fill american wood. Adds another layer above and beyond the 12yo.


There is a lot going on, I get the picture of teenagers in a 60's american dinner, banana splits, ice cream sodas, bright colours and happy music. But the finish is dry and oaky (in a good way).

Ganga, you getting the pears as well, something I always get from Glenlivets.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:34 pm

Ian Logan wrote:Ganga,

There are a few whisky companies/based around Broxburn so its hard to know too much about this one.
Broxburn is in the central belt of Scotland between Glasgow and Edinburgh where most bottling sites are. Easier for transport and shipping etc.


It's been mentioned by someone that they think it is Duncan Taylor under the guise of Alexander Murray. But to me this is rumor until someone from the company comes forward.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:35 pm

Yes, lots and lots of pears.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ian Logan » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:36 pm

It reads as if the glass is helping to intensify the flavours far more....interesting.
Trying to get my head round the charred oak by finding something to relate it to. I have a charred stave from a bourbon barrel downstairs, I guess I should go get it.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby mikeymad » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:36 pm

Starting out finally (11:27 PST).

My first dram is a sample from ganga.

Glenlivet 15yo %40 Trader Joes Bottling - Glencairn glass

off we go....

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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ian Logan » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:40 pm

Ganga,

I am only guessing but Duncan Taylor are 200 miles north from there. I would be more inclined more perhaps towards Ian McLeod & sons. There are also many wine companies in Edinburgh who could be bottling it also.
Would love to know more if you come across anything.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:41 pm

Back to a little 12.... Ganga, do you get any bready, baking bread notes, maybe thats just another name for the malty notes you mention. Almost bread dough (even a hint of new make spirit?)
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:43 pm


Glenlivet 12, Celtic Malts glass
Nose : Bartlett pears with fresh oak, some toffee and vanilla notes
Palate : citrus, bananas and vanilla, toffees, a pleasant esteriness
Finish : moderate with pears coming in at the end.
Comment : This glass presents it to the palate in just the right way.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:46 pm

The maltiness is more like chewing the grain as opposed to dough or bread (too much time out on the farm as a kid I guess). The spirits seemed to come out with the last glass.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:47 pm

I just wiped out the glass and bo is it left with a wonderful smell. I'm back in with the grist. :D
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Matt2 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:49 pm

Now I'm thinking about the new make... Ian - how consistant is the spirit in terms of flavours etc, if you had a random sample from the last 5 years would there be changes in it? Just feels that there is a real distinctive profile from them all, but each has acquired their own style from the wood.

Are there different stills / processes for the different expressions?
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ian Logan » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:49 pm

the citrus/pineapple that for me comes through in the 12yo can reming people of the sharpness of new make.
Malty most certainly, honey and vailla are also in there.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:52 pm

Ok, I've moved along the the Trader Joe's 15 yo. And I've added two more glasses. The fourth is the glencairn and the fifth is a tumbler.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ian Logan » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:54 pm

Matt,

The new make is tested by a panel from production, labs and blending while at distilling strength and also at filling strength to ensure consistency of product.
A vatting of Glenlivet is a large number of casks together that would come from a selection of ages also so very unlikely that one distillation would have a particular influence. production levels at the moment are just under 6 million lts a year.
There are no changes to the process for any ages, all four sets of still are identical. Very tall in style meaning a light fruity spirit coming over the neck to condense.
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Re: The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:03 pm


Glenlivet 15, Trader Joe's, 40%, small brandy
Nose : vanilla with slight cocoa, pears, citrus-oranges, malty/doughy
Palate : Citrus, doughy (light cinnamon?), caramel, some fresh oak
Finish : moderate, with sweet esters and light spices
Comment : Bottle has now been open a week and the astringent/strong oakiness has mellowed...at least in this glass.
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