The Glenlivet Tasting - 23rd Nov 2007 - Part 2

[Ganga]

I'm sitting here and haven't had anything for about 5-6 minutes and I'm getting coconut. Hmm.

[Ian Logan]

Time for some water or coffee, clear things up then start again maybe???

[Ganga]

Time for some water or coffee, clear things up then start again maybe???

Ok.

[Danny]

Ian, is Longmorn a part of the Chivas group?

[mikeymad]

Ian, is Longmorn a part of the Chivas group?

I am not Ian, but I have:

Aberlour
Allt-A-Bhainne
Braes of Glenlivet
Caperdonich
Glenallachie
Glenlivet
Longmorn
Strathisla

[Danny]

Here are my notes for the 18 year. I always seem to pick up some sherry on the nose, but not the palate. I looked back over my previous notes on the 18 and only ever mentioned sherry on the palate once.

Colour: Similar to the 15, perhaps a tad darker
Nose: citrus- orange zest, sherry, quite restrained- waters opens it up- now I get pears and cooked plums
Palate: Fruit cake fruits and spices, toffee, a bit of mild pepper- water- brings in coconut and vanilla- it is blended together so nicely.
Finish: Some mild spices, coconut, vanilla, fruits and just a bit of a woody aftertaste;
Comment: Still one of the favorites.

[Muskrat Portage]

Whad' I miss? Whad' I miss?

Just got home from work, haven't even changed out of the uniform yet. Anyways I'll browse the pages then get into the fray.
Muskrat

[mikeymad]

Colour: Similar to the 15, perhaps a tad darker
Nose: citrus- orange zest, sherry, quite restrained- waters opens it up- now I get pears and cooked plums
Palate: Fruit cake fruits and spices, toffee, a bit of mild pepper- water- brings in coconut and vanilla- it is blended together so nicely.
Finish: Some mild spices, coconut, vanilla, fruits and just a bit of a woody aftertaste;
Comment: Still one of the favorites.

mmmmm that sounds tasty.

Cheers,

[mikeymad]

MUSKY!!!!!!

[Ian Logan]

Danny,

Mikey has managed to get most of distilleries in that list, yes Longmorn is one of ours.
Braes of Glenlivet has been known for the past number of years as Braeval. In the list is also Scapa, Tormore, Glenburgie, Miltonduff, Glendronach, Glen Keith, Imperial and the Strathclyde grain distillery in Glasgow.

[Ganga]

Gone fishin'. For Musky. Ok, tribute to MikeyMad (he knows the tune) and to our friendly fish of the north.

[Danny]

Colour: Similar to the 15, perhaps a tad darker
Nose: citrus- orange zest, sherry, quite restrained- waters opens it up- now I get pears and cooked plums
Palate: Fruit cake fruits and spices, toffee, a bit of mild pepper- water- brings in coconut and vanilla- it is blended together so nicely.
Finish: Some mild spices, coconut, vanilla, fruits and just a bit of a woody aftertaste;
Comment: Still one of the favorites.

mmmmm that sounds tasty.

Cheers,

Oh a very nice dram, I hope you get the chance to try it some time. Not sure what it costs there, in Alberta we have the advantage of chain stores competing and all stocking Glenlivet. So it is well worth the price here.

[Danny]

Whad' I miss? Whad' I miss?

Just got home from work, haven't even changed out of the uniform yet. Anyways I'll browse the pages then get into the fray.
Muskrat

Musky, how are ya? I am sure you will catch up quickly.

[Ganga]

Taking a dram break...well at least away from the Glenlivet. I've poured some of the Aberlour a'bunadh batch 7.

[Ganga]

Don't be too sure.

Whad' I miss? Whad' I miss?

Just got home from work, haven't even changed out of the uniform yet. Anyways I'll browse the pages then get into the fray.
Muskrat

Musky, how are ya? I am sure you will catch up quickly.

[mikeymad]

Danny,

Mikey has managed to get most of distilleries in that list, yes Longmorn is one of ours.
Braes of Glenlivet has been known for the past number of years as Braeval. In the list is also Scapa, Tormore, Glenburgie, Miltonduff, Glendronach, Glen Keith, Imperial and the Strathclyde grain distillery in Glasgow.

Ah, very good, I was not including the Domecq side...

It is a nice set to draw on.

Cheers,

[Danny]

Mike/Ian thanks for the information on the groups distilleries. Some very good brands in the group. Quite a number I have not had the pleasure of trying. Oh gosh, I might have to go to Scotland again.

[Muskrat Portage]

Gone fishin'. For Musky. Ok, tribute to MikeyMad (he knows the tune) and to our friendly fish of the north.

Someday I'm gonna get you guys in my lair. (Danny already has a standing invitation) Or then again, maybe not, no need to fish the old Muskrat is here until Mrs Musky gets home, then we have to go shopping.

So I have time for a dram. Maybe a Longmorn? It's one of my favorite drams, and rather hard to find in my part of Ontario. Ian, to figure out where I am, look at a map, find Winnipeg Manitoba. Come East 200 km and on the north shore of Lake of the Woods (Wooden Lake - get it?)
is my home town of Kenora. In the alternative, find Toronto and come West 2000 km, same result.
Now for that dram...
Muskrat

[Danny]

Don't be too sure.

Whad' I miss? Whad' I miss?

Just got home from work, haven't even changed out of the uniform yet. Anyways I'll browse the pages then get into the fray.
Muskrat

Musky, how are ya? I am sure you will catch up quickly.

Good one, Ganga

[Ian Logan]

Its a great portfolio from the 300,000lt a year at Scapa to the 6,000,000 at Glenlivet to the beauty of Strathisla and thats just the distilleries not the flavours they produce.

[mikeymad]

Oh gosh, I might have to go to Scotland again.

Let us know when ......

Cheers,

[Ganga]

Oh, two for one. The family is in and around the Grand Forks area.

Gone fishin'. For Musky. Ok, tribute to MikeyMad (he knows the tune) and to our friendly fish of the north.

Someday I'm gonna get you guys in my lair. (Danny already has a standing invitation) Or then again, maybe not, no need to fish the old Muskrat is here until Mrs Musky gets home, then we have to go shopping.

So I have time for a dram. Maybe a Longmorn? It's one of my favorite drams, and rather hard to find in my part of Ontario. Ian, to figure out where I am, look at a map, find Winnipeg Manitoba. Come East 200 km and on the north shore of Lake of the Woods (Wooden Lake - get it?)
is my home town of Kenora. In the alternative, find Toronto and come West 2000 km, same result.
Now for that dram...
Muskrat

[Ian Logan]

Musky,

Google Earth it is then, just look up and wave, you never know when that satellite will be passing!!!!

[Danny]

Ian, as Longmorn is a favorite of mine, I have to ask. Do you think Chivas will extend the number of expressions?

[Muskrat Portage]

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The Glenlivet 12 yo
Nose : okay there's the pears, hint of grain and a sweet undercurrent as well as a slight nose prickle
Palate : Lovely, sweet like dark Christmas cake and a nice citrus flavour slips in there.
Finish : Definitely warming and sweet notes of the christmas cake hang on the tongue tip and the sides of the tongue.
Comment : It's always a treat to revisit the old standbys (this one is an early favorite from Uni) as I inevitably discover nuances I've missed before!

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We all make light of nosing everything from water tumblers to old gym socks, however I find that cleansing the palate with a sip and then nosing the glass of water deeply helps to reset the taste senses thoroughly.

Ian: I've been communicating with Neil Macdonald (Hammersmith UK) and Dave Smith (from Toronto, Canada) about a packaging glitch with A'Bunadh and find they are delightful people. Won't take a "no thank you" and really care about the end users.

Muskrat

[Ian Logan]

Danny,

I dont know whether you have seen it in Canada yet but we have changed the 15yo to a 16yo and upped the alcohol strength a little.
We see Longmorn as a conniseur/specialist whisky and it will only be the 16yo for the foreseeable future, its an effort to add to the exclusivity of Longmorn.
Its also hugely popular with blenders from all the whisky companies in Scotland so that also limits what we have available.

[Muskrat Portage]

Danny,
I dont know whether you have seen it in Canada yet but we have changed the 15yo to a 16yo and upped the alcohol strength a little.
We see Longmorn as a conniseur/specialist whisky and it will only be the 16yo for the foreseeable future, its an effort to add to the exclusivity of Longmorn.
Its also hugely popular with blenders from all the whisky companies in Scotland so that also limits what we have available.

I should attempt to acquire a second Longmorn 15 before I open the one I have then? Danny, are there any left in Calgary?
Muskrat

[Ian Logan]

Musky,

I dont know Dave well at all but I have worked with Neil for nearly 10 years now at Pernod Ricard and I have never met another markering director who enjoys what he does so much. Normally marketing people dont last that long before moving to a new product, its been said 3 years is normal, 1st year - repack, 2nd year - redesign, 3rd year - resign.

[Danny]

Ian, I can certainly understand the popularity with blenders. Good for Longmorn. Glad to hear about the 16 year. I will have to hide another 15 year and go in search of the 16.

[Ganga]

Ian, what are the plans for the US market? Will it be the 15 or are we going to also switch to the 16?

[Danny]

Danny,
I dont know whether you have seen it in Canada yet but we have changed the 15yo to a 16yo and upped the alcohol strength a little.
We see Longmorn as a conniseur/specialist whisky and it will only be the 16yo for the foreseeable future, its an effort to add to the exclusivity of Longmorn.
Its also hugely popular with blenders from all the whisky companies in Scotland so that also limits what we have available.

I should attempt to acquire a second Longmorn 15 before I open the one I have then? Danny, are there any left in Calgary?
Muskrat

Musky, the last time I was at the store there was still the 15 year expression on the shelf. I will look tomorrow and if there is some left would you like one?

[Muskrat Portage]

Ian:
Neil is a wonderful fellow from what little I've been able to glean and really does care about the product and it's consistency. Please give him my warmest regards next time you see him - he knows me by my real name, not the avatar.

Muskrat

[Ian Logan]

Ganga,

The 16yo will become the standard globally. It will take some time for the 15yo to vanish off the shelves though. I know it was still being bottled around March this year.

[Ganga]

Ok, so I have some time to grab a bottle. I haven't had the 15 yo in some 10 years or so; therefore a little hazy in the memory. Thanks.

[Muskrat Portage]

Danny,
I dont know whether you have seen it in Canada yet but we have changed the 15yo to a 16yo and upped the alcohol strength a little.
We see Longmorn as a conniseur/specialist whisky and it will only be the 16yo for the foreseeable future, its an effort to add to the exclusivity of Longmorn.
Its also hugely popular with blenders from all the whisky companies in Scotland so that also limits what we have available.

I should attempt to acquire a second Longmorn 15 before I open the one I have then? Danny, are there any left in Calgary?
Muskrat

Musky, the last time I was at the store there was still the 15 year expression on the shelf. I will look tomorrow and if there is some left would you like one?

Danny: Yes please, let me know how much you need and I'll send it off ASAP. I have a relative coming in from Alberta in the near future, maybe I can con him into bringing it for me.
Peter