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The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:16 pm

See everybody after dinner. Let's hope the restaurant can get everyone's order out quickly since we're going out so unfashionably early!
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:19 pm

I've arrived.

Cheated slightly as I started last night with the FR so I'll be leaving that tonight.
Here is my line up for this evening.

12 Signature
15 Cask 11395 bot.16.02.06 dis 23.07.90 Bottle No 16.
1991 Port Wood
21 yo Port wood.

Nick you have nearly tempted me to open my Rum wood and Roasted Malt, luckily they are in my 2year olds room and I don't want to wake her up.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:20 pm

Enjoy your evening with the Mrs. Dinner too.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:21 pm

Woodhill, good to see you. :D
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:22 pm

Welcome Woodhill

And David of course.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:23 pm

Willie JJ wrote:C'mon Treacle am I really that much older than you? It's bubblegum.

Sorry Willie, my parents said I'd get buck teeth if I blew gum, so I've had a very sheltered childhood :( The only bubble gum I know is Hubba Bubba and those hard ones at the bottom of Screwballs, never heard of your Bazooka Joe.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:24 pm

My nose is not what it should be - can I move to have these tastings at 9am when its at it's best.


12 is yummy but it's still a shame they are taking away the FR.
more refined then the DW. oily?
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:25 pm

Interesting! I thought everyone would get that. It was the bubblegum with the wee comic strip in it. American stuff isn't it guys?
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:26 pm

[quote="woodhill"]My nose is not what it should be - can I move to have these tastings at 9am when its at it's best.[/quote]

J my nose isn't what it should be either, but the time of day has nothing to do with it. I suspect genetics:-)
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:27 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Interesting! I thought everyone would get that. It was the bubblegum with the wee comic strip in it. American stuff isn't it guys?

I believe it is a US thing. I always grew up with it as Bazooka Bubblegum.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:27 pm

Is it only Nick and myself that don't have the BBCode?

I notice (not that this matters) that it is not counting posts either. Hmm.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:29 pm

I have to admit that my desert island Malt is PortWood 21. As has been said previously, this one could be enjoyed at ANY TIME!
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:32 pm

It's definitely a fine dram David, but for desert island excitement I would take the 15 Single Barrel just for unpredictability.

By the way did you see our earlier discussion about the age of the SB?
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:34 pm

That's me done, I'm off on my way.

Still undecided between whether I like 15 or 21 best. 15 was so bold and different after the 12s, but I also liked the wineyness of the 21. I'll just have to try them another time to decide :)

Enjoy the rest of your tasting.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:35 pm

The 15 is truly superb.

It would be nice however if they gave the barrel details.

is anyone on here doing the 17yo range (not of the 15's :-))
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:36 pm

Since two of us notice a similarity between HP 12 and Balvenie 12 DW, I thought I would pour them side by side in small brandy glasses.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:36 pm

BARREL DETAILS SHOULD BE ON THE LABEL. WHAT OTHER DETAUILS HAVE YOU IN MIND?
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:37 pm

Im now moving on to the '91 PW which from memory Ive enjoyed more the 21. Now Matt has kindly sent me a sample I can finally revisit this!
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:37 pm

Goodnight TS. Great to have had you here for the tasting.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:38 pm

I agree, on this moment I think the 15 is the best.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:38 pm

Now that sounds like fun Ganga. i'm off to get the HP
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:39 pm

[quote="David22"]BARREL DETAILS SHOULD BE ON THE LABEL. WHAT OTHER DETAUILS HAVE YOU IN MIND?[/quote]


Hi David - thanks for doing this here tonight!

I'm thinking Sherry or bourbon, first or second fill hogshead barel etc.

Now someone will come on and say I should be able to work it out:-) Sorry.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:43 pm

My label is misprinted, can't read the barrel details, somebody else can?
Talking about a sample of course.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:44 pm

SINGLE BARREL - NEARLY ALWAYS SECOND FILL USA BARRELS. HAVE NOT USED EUROPEAN CASKS SO FAR.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:44 pm

Ah, searching for info on your Q Woody and have found the answer to one that came up earlier about the age of the 15 SB. On the side of the label it says 'Matured at the Balvenie Distillery for at least 15 years'. So could be older then.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:47 pm

Going H2H with the 2 PW's now and what a difference in the nose.

The 21 is so much more powerful.
I suppose the '91 is only Extra Matured in Port casks?
is the 21 wholly matured in Port?
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:48 pm

ABSOLUTELY - COULD BE OLDER THAN 15. A BARGAIN! ANYONE REMEMBER SINGLE BARREL 25?! YUM!
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:48 pm

Nosing DW and HP 12

The DW is sweeter and maltier. The HP 12 has more of a rich orange and smoke in the nose. HP 12 also has a tangerine besides the orange.

Palate DW and HP 12


HP 12 has more of an orange flavor a definitely smoke. The DW has a sweeter malt flavor and lighter oranges. DW also has a cocoa note in there that I didn't find in the HP 12.

Vatting of Remnants

I actually like this better than either. The sweeter nature of the DW comes through brilliantly while that touch of smoke from the HP 12 adds kind of a base note to the mixture.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:49 pm

[quote="Collector57"][quote="Willie JJ"]Is it only Nick and myself that don't have the BBCode?

I notice (not that this matters) that it is not counting posts either. Hmm.[/quote]
Oddly, Willie, BBCode seems to be ON for me in the live tasting topic, but not in the normal topic :?[/quote]

Seems to be the reverse for me Nick. Good grief!
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:51 pm

Ganga don't you think there is a little element of solvent in the nose of Balvenie that doesn't appear in the HP? It's not a bad thing. Just different.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:51 pm

BOTH PORTWOODS ARE FINISHES ONLY. WHAT WE DONT WANT IS A PORT FLAVOURED BALVENIE! THE USUAL FINISH PERIOD IS BETWEEN 4 TO 6 MONTHS AFTER THE MAIN FULL PERIOD OF MATURATION IN TRADITIONAL CASKS.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby woodhill » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:52 pm

The influence is a lot stronger on the older than.

Perhaps as the '91 still had so much of its own character?

how old is the '91 btw?
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:54 pm

[quote="Ras Mazunga"]My label is misprinted, can't read the barrel details, somebody else can?
Talking about a sample of course.[/quote]

Sorry Ras I missed that. As far as I can see the SB is Cask 8242, Distilled 17/5/90, bottled 8/2/08. My label is missing the top of the figures, but that's what it looks like. It makes it a 17yo.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby David22 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:54 pm

13 YRS OLD I SEEMS TO RECALL.
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Re: The Balvenie - 29 March 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ganga » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:55 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Ganga don't you think there is a little element of solvent in the nose of Balvenie that doesn't appear in the HP? It's not a bad thing. Just different.

I think I'd describe it as more estery than the HP.

Wait, there it is with bananas.
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