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Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:27 pm

Thanks Ganga, this will still work well for everyone.

I'm limited with my bottles of Caol Ila right now, but I'm starting with SMWS Cask # 53.108 Caol Ila 10yr @ 59.9% ABV.

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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:35 pm

Here goes......Edited because I couldn't get the tasting note thingy working......


SMWS Cask # 53.108 Caol Ila 10yr @ 59.9% ABV
Glass: Glencairn
Hints of soap, and malty, with lots of fresh sea air on the nose. This one starts extremely sweet, and then it just grabs you and explodes on the palate. Very medicinal, with some fruity notes, then becomes spicy, with a long finish that reminds me of a barbeque.

Unfortunately this bottle is almost empty. But this is by far the best expression of Caol Ila that I've ever had. I have had the 12 OB, 18OB, and a dram of a G&M bottling; I think it was a 19yo (it was at a tasting, I don't remember exactly which one it was). I'm sure once I explore my newly opened 53.109 more, I'll really enjoy that as well. I have really grown to appreciate Caol Ila, thanks to 53.108.
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:37 pm

Started a wee bit earlier with a few O.B.'s , all are very oily , here are the notes so far.......

Expression - 15yo Floral & Forna O.B.
Age - 15yo
ABV -43%
Colour - Polished Gold
Nose - Very Weak , Slight Medicinal , Smoke .
Palate - Again Slight Medicinal , seaweed , sea air .
Finish - Long and pepperminty .
Comment - Oily in the Glass , Still very disappointing and weak compared to I.B. Caol Ilas .

Expression - 12yo O.B.
Age - 12yo
ABV -43%
Colour - Pale Gold
Nose - Touch Medicinal , peat at first but seems to fade , Islay Seashore .
Palate - Light on the palate , at first , damp peat , the iodine just scrapes through .
Finish - medium finish with a slight pepperiness .
Comment - Again Oily but still a major disappointment this one , can't get away with it at all , weak compared to others ?

Expression - 18yo O.B.
Age - 18yo
ABV -43%
Colour - Greeny Gold
Nose - Grassy with a touch of peat smoke .
Palate - Doesn't taste like a Caol Ila , more like a weak Talisker , a wee bit of white pepper , all the medicinal is gone by this age .
Finish - Medium to long finish , very warming , Humbugs ?
Comment - Not really a bad dram , balanced , decent enough but not one of my Favourites .

Expression - Cask strength O.B.
Age - 10yo?
ABV -55%
Colour - Pale Straw .
Nose - Takes a little while to open up but when it does....... Peat , smoke , Seashore , the old Bonfire on the beach , Germolene (medicinal) .
Palate - Very Complex , Peat , creamy fudge , touch of fruit , Almost like an Ardbeg Still Young !
Finish - Long , warming , Medicinal , creamy , peaty.......
Comment - Wow ! a step up from the 12 and 18 , very enjoyable , a "proper" Coal Ila !

Expression - Natural Cask Strength O.B.
Age - 10yo?
ABV - 59.3%
Colour - Pale Straw
Nose - Nose tingling , pure hospital , medicinal ! Grassy with it .
Palate - Peat , smoke , seashore iodine , not as creamy as the previous version .
Finish - Incredibly long , hot finish . Peppery , right at the last moment - slight immature finish compared to the last one ..
Comment - Not as balanced as the "Cask Strength" but the extra strength gives it a bit more of a kick .

Expression - Natural Cask Strength 25yo O.B.
Age - 1978 25yo
ABV - 59.4
Colour - Polished Gold .
Nose - Really , Really Medicinal , Germolene (antiseptic) , a touch of Smoke lingers there as well .
Palate - Wonderful , Really powerful , peppery , spicy , iodine . Yeehaa!
Finish - Not as long as the previous one , very warming , peppery .
Comment - Why aren't the 12 and 18yo like this one , probably one of the best O.B.'s Ever !
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:41 pm

Ganga wrote:This is really good. I'm sure I will like this more as I go through the glasses.


Still on the 53.108?? I absolutely love it. Of course it's my first Caol Ila at Cask Strength, so that could really have something to do with it. But this bottle, I'm realllllly going to miss.
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:43 pm

Nice set of notes Gordon. I started a bit earlier as well, to gather my thoughts and notes.
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:45 pm

Ganga wrote:Yes, I split the sample to four glasses. :P I can understand your missing this bottle.


I went to buy another bottle, but they were all gone. :x

Oh well, you snooze you lose I guess.
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:46 pm

Collector57 wrote:ob 12 yo 43%
G&M Connoisseurs 1981, 16yo 40%
SMWS 53.37 1980 18 yo 61.1%

I have a few others but not supposed to be opening new bottles yet. Will that willpower last tonight? Possibly not :oops:


Nick open another, why not? It's been a while since you've opened a new bottle I'm sure. Just do it!! :iwbrnt:
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:48 pm

Next one.......
Expression - Rare Malt Selection
Age - 1975 21yo
ABV - 61.3%
Colour - Polished Gold
Nose - Not as pronounced as the 25yo , but still peat (damp) , iodine , smoke .
Palate - Peppery , iodine
Finish - Again long warming with Humbugs and peppermint .
Comment - A bit relaxed for over 60% , actually tastes better with a wee drop of water .
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:49 pm

I can't help but love the mouth feel of this stuff. I could chew it over and over. The finish just lasts forever. I'm now on the hunt for more young and zesty Caol Ila.
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:50 pm

Sample #1

SMWS Cask # 53.109 Caol Ila 15yr 54.5% ABV

Glass: Glencairn
Maritime notes, also hints of a campfire on the nose. This one starts really smooth and sweet. Then becomes salty, with iodine, tastes of seashells, saltwater with a hint of campfire smoke in the finish. At first tasted neat, then about ½ way through the dram I added a couple drops of water. This seemed to calm it way down, too much for me. But I couldn't help but notice the smell of smoked bacon on the nose!

This is my first dram from this newly opened bottle. Much different from the previous Caol Ila 10yr Cask 53.108. More tame, but still has all of the excellent traits that I love in Caol Ila!
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:55 pm

I've never been great on tasting notes, but the more I read other peoples notes, and the more I taste things it seems to become easier.

Nick you said "2 or three minutes later I'm now getting a fishy and spicy finish" and now that you mention it, spicy smokey fish is what I get alot with Caol Ila. Just couldn't explain it I guess.
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:57 pm

Ganga I'm really glad you're enjoying the sample! :D :D

No mikeymad yet eh?
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:01 pm

Last of the O.b.'s

Expression - Natural Cask Strength 25yo O.B.
Age - 1979 25yo
ABV - 58.4%
Colour - Gold
Nose - Very Maritime , not as peaty as the first 25yo , sweetness seems to be present (icing sugar ) , also a touch vegetation (grass etc) .
Palate -on the palate the Medicinal comes through , huge dryness , slight lemon citric , pepper .
Finish - Long and very warming , hot and peppery .
Comment - Cracking Dram , stays with you for a long time !

Now the choice I.b. or SMWS ?
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:05 pm

I have a b-day party later as well, that's why I'm on now. May be back later in the evening, we'll see.

Definitely SMWS Gordon!
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:08 pm

Ganga wrote:A huge thanks to Ryan for the sample of Caol Ila. :thumbsup:


You are very welcome! I'm really glad you enjoyed it. I liked reading your notes.
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Sherried Malt » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:08 pm

Don't think I'll be able to make this one, guys. Things are going to hell in a handbasket, so why waste good whisky that way?

Have a great time everyone! :D
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:15 pm

Sample #2

SMWS Cask # 53.109 Caol Ila 15yr 54.5% ABV


Glass: Snifter
I'm using my largest snifter here, and there is lots of stuff going on with the nose. First of all it's much stronger than with the Glencairn. Hints of soapsuds, gusts of sea breeze, diesel engine smoke, and saltiness. This starts fairly sweet with salt and iodine, and saltwater. Long oily finish that lasts in your mouth forever. And after Nick mentioned smoked fish, I can't help but taste this as well (in a good way).
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:16 pm

OK SMWS then , back to the very beginning , the one that converted me.......

Expression - SMWS 53.50
Age - 1993 7yo
ABV - 62.1%
Colour - Pale Straw .
Nose - This tickles the hairs in your nose , Dramatically Phenolic , phenols running riot , Germolene (antiseptic) , peat , peat , peat...... Oh and smokiness !
Palate - Wow ! Creamy peatiness , then more peat and just for good luck another dollop !
Finish - Long , Warming and very smooth.......and Peaty !
Comment - The Dram which made me a Caol Ila-eritte , wonderful for such a young-un .
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:17 pm

Hi folks

Sorry I'm late.

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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:18 pm

Collector57 wrote:
G&M CC 1981 16yo 40%

This bottles nearly gone so I may try it again later - free up a space to open another CI tonight?


See, you've even got yourself convinced it's the right thing to do! :D :D
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:19 pm

Dram fine idea wrote:Hi folks

Sorry I'm late.

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Better late than never! Good to have you here Steve! :D
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:21 pm

Wow!! Gordon, that one sounds like a cracker!!!!!!!!! :shock:
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:21 pm

Tonight I have
12 yo OB 43%
10 yo OMC 50% (a single cask bottling for a fine cigar's pleasure)
28 yo Douglas Laing Old & Rare 54.2% (distilled Feb 79, bottled Sep 07, 261 bottles)
Thanks to the Whisky Shop for their help, much appreciated!
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:24 pm

ryguy wrote:Wow!! Gordon, that one sounds like a cracker!!!!!!!!! :shock:


It is , it got me into The Society Caol Ilas , i put it into a blind tasting i done at the 2005 Feis Ile and i don't think anyone got it .
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:27 pm

Spirit of Islay wrote:
ryguy wrote:Wow!! Gordon, that one sounds like a cracker!!!!!!!!! :shock:


It is , it got me into The Society Caol Ilas , i put it into a blind tasting i done at the 2005 Feis Ile and i don't think anyone got it .


Being new to the Society, I've learned my lesson. If I like it, buy another bottle, plain and simple. Oh what I'd do to get another bottle of 53.108. I'll just jump on the next young Caol Ila they offer I suppose.

Interesting that noobdy picked it out in the blind tasting Gordon. What did they think it was???
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:28 pm

Kicked off with the 12 yo OB. I agree with Nick's postings from earlier, incredibly smooth, oily - lovely coating on the mouth, and excellent spice. This distillery is one of my favourites. Yum yum. Wife says I'm going red and I've only started !
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:32 pm

Sample #3
SMWS Cask # 53.109 Caol Ila 15yr 54.5% ABV


Glass: Riedel Crystal SM Glass
Only thing with this glass is it gives a very weak nose IMO. Some fresh ocean air, and sea breeze, along with hints of saltwater. But the presentation on the palate is perfect. I'm getting that nice oily mouth feel, with tons of peat and smokiness!!! I can't even explain all that's going on here with this. I enjoyed this waaay too much, the glass is empty already!
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:32 pm

Whoa Ganga, a 54 on the Sig?
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:35 pm

Expression - SMWS 53.64
Age - 1983 20yo
ABV - 55.4%
Colour - Polished Gold
Nose - Icing Sugar , Carbolic , smoke , seashore freshness .
Palate - Antiseptic , smoke , something else i can't quite pick out .
Finish - Not long compared to other CI's , sweet and medicinal .
Comment - still a good Caol Ila if slightly restrained , still can't get the taste on the palate i picked up......
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:44 pm

mikeymad wrote:Hey Team,

Yeah, I got a birthday party today. So I could not join in early.

I should be back on later if there are some people hanging out.

54 ganga?... sounds like it is pretty good....

We run a different scale.

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I may be back later, I have a party in a bit as well. Maybe for the late night, we'll see how it goes.
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:46 pm

Ganga wrote:Mikey! I like it but the SMWS bottling is fantastic.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who liked the stuff. If I'm not mistaken, Mikey may still have a sample of it hanging around as well! :D
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Dram fine idea » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:51 pm

Moving on to dram 2 - OMC 10 yo 50% Bourbon Hogshead (For a Fine Cigar's Pleasure). Tasted neat.
Nose - per the label - "Earthy, oily with smoke and pepper" - I agree
Taste - per label - "round and spicy with peaty smoke" - there's also a sweetness and a coastal/salty flavour - so much so I am chewing this for ages and am very reluctant to swallow - the saline character just grows and grows
Finish - per label - salty, coastal and coffeed - I agree - I needn't have been concerned about losing the salty flavour - it keeps on going like a refill bourbon cask of Scapa (another of my favourites) with peat on top.
Comment - Fantastic. I am bowled over. This is the business. I am very pleased with this dram, knocks the socks off dram 1 (the 12 yo OB 43%). Although slightly oily, nothing near as oily as dram 1. Much cleaner.
Glass - glencairn (for all the drams)
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:54 pm

Have got the 53.93 here Nick
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:57 pm

OK another dram of 53.109.....why? Because I can! :D
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Re: Caol Ila Live Tasting - April 19, 2008

Postby Ryguy » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:59 pm

Dram fine idea wrote:Moving on to dram 2 - OMC 10 yo 50% Bourbon Hogshead (For a Fine Cigar's Pleasure). Tasted neat.
Nose - per the label - "Earthy, oily with smoke and pepper" - I agree
Taste - per label - "round and spicy with peaty smoke" - there's also a sweetness and a coastal/salty flavour - so much so I am chewing this for ages and am very reluctant to swallow - the saline character just grows and grows
Finish - per label - salty, coastal and coffeed - I agree - I needn't have been concerned about losing the salty flavour - it keeps on going like a refill bourbon cask of Scapa (another of my favourites) with peat on top.
Comment - Fantastic. I am bowled over. This is the business. I am very pleased with this dram, knocks the socks off dram 1 (the 12 yo OB 43%). Although slightly oily, nothing near as oily as dram 1. Much cleaner.
Glass - glencairn (for all the drams)
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Nice note Steve, sounds like one special bottle there! :thumbsup:
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