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The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT


The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Matt2 » Fri May 16, 2008 7:04 am

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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 7:22 pm

Cheers Ganga! I'll be tasting later on as well, still at work for 3 more hours. :cry:

But I'll be in and out checking on the tasting notes and chatting! :D
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Matt2 » Fri May 16, 2008 7:49 pm

I will be joining you shortly with a 30, just got let the dinner settle a bit :thumbsup:
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 7:51 pm

Ooh, quiet in here, isn't it? Hi C57 :)
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 7:51 pm

And hi Matt :)
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 7:53 pm

I have a 10 and a 30, ready to go :thumbsup:

C57, I thought Macallan doesn't use caramel? Will have to google that tho cos now I'm doubting myself.
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 8:01 pm

Cheers Everyone! Looking forward to reading your notes.
I really wish I could join in with a dram, but you know..... :x
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TheShrink » Fri May 16, 2008 8:02 pm

The Macallan 10 yr old

Colour : A gorgeous, rich amber

Nose : Like C57 of course I get sherry. There's a warmth there that's very enticing. The alcohol lifts the sweetness, the bite of the 40% alcohol on your nose with the whisky-ness coming through too (a touch of peat/malt aroma). I also get sweet fruit. Overly ripe peaches or the like.

Palate : Chewing gives tingles at the far edges on both sides of my tongue, nothing up the middle. Hellishly smooth, which is what I love about it. Sweet, sherry flavour for me, a slight creaminess to it that's almost cloying but the alcohol just cuts through this sufficiently to balance it. Again, I get ripe sweet fruit in the palate.

Finish : No alcohol kick in the palate but enough sweetness and alcohol to have a lush finish. Sweetness melds with this to give warmth. The malt/peat tones rise to the fore as the sherry fades. The finish lasts. Mmmm.

I really like this one, one of my personal favourites to drink when out and about in pubs!
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 8:04 pm

Willie JJ wrote:I have various unopened Macallans lying around the house and the distillery's decision to ignore Matt means I'll have to open some. I think it was a deliberate strategy to force us to consume our bottles :wink:


It's going to work though, isn't it Willie :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Still at work, it's gonna be close to 8-9 EST before I can.
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 8:08 pm

OK, this is my 10..

The Macallan

The Macallan
10yo
Orange, sherry. Grass neat, which changes to straw/tea/nuts with water.
Vanilla, oranges, raisins, sherry.
Golden syrup, spices, ginger.
It's a long time since I've tried this and it's nice to explore it a little.
Burnished gold
0

10 Years Old
0
40%
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Single Malt
Highland
a little
None
Glencairn
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 8:09 pm

Willie JJ wrote:I have various unopened Macallans lying around the house and the distillery's decision to ignore Matt means I'll have to open some. I think it was a deliberate strategy to force us to consume our bottles :wink:

You make it sound like you stumble across yet another Macallan whenever you enter a room. Bottles strewn everywhere ;)
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 8:09 pm

I have some really nice ones for tonight too! I can't wait.
I've really gained an appreciation for Macallan lately that's for sure.

I have open bottles of the following to taste:

Macallan Cask Strength NAS ( 57.8%, Original Bottling )
Macallan 12yo ( 43%, Original Bottling )
Macallan 15yo Fine Oak ( 43%, Original Bottling )
Macallan 16yo ( 57.4%, SMWS, Cask #24.96, 1990/2007 )
Macallan 17yo ( 46%, Signatory UCF Collection, 9.20.90/9.25.07, Refill Butt Cask #16307, 606/667 )
Macallan 18yo ( 43%, Original Bottling, 1988 )
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Matt2 » Fri May 16, 2008 8:13 pm

The Macallan 30 Fine Oak

The Macallan
Fine Oak 30 Years Old
Lots of ummmmm... sherry! But also some nice fruity notes, and something chemical, paint stripper?
Quite smooth and gentle to start and then it kicks in. The wood and sherry dominate, tingly in the mouth.
Once you've picked the big of sherried wood out of your mouth it finishes quite nicely. Going from bourbon - sherbert - sherry
A big hitter, needs a little water to bring it under control. Overall a very drinkable dram - if you like wood and sherry of course.
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0

30 Years Old
0
43%
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Single Malt
Scotland
A few drops
None
Glencairn
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Matt2 » Fri May 16, 2008 8:17 pm

Collector57 wrote:I kind of expected to be alone in my lack of regard for Macallan. I obviously don't have the palate for it.
WM scores it anywhere from 7.75 to 8.something I find.


Its a marmite whisky, like a good Islay - love it or hate it.... I haven't had one for a while so it is nice to come back to it, although I do tire of it quite quickly. The 30 is a bit of a coffee and cigar whisky I think :smoke:
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 8:19 pm

Collector57 wrote:
Collector57 wrote:I kind of expected to be alone in my lack of regard for Macallan. I obviously don't have the palate for it.
WM scores it anywhere from 7.75 to 8.something I find.

Out of interest I just checked erge's thoughts on the two I've just tried. Scores of 78 and 2 stars. Finally someone of like mind :P :D


Nick, at least you're going into this with an open mind. Some people just don't have a palate for the extra sherried stuff like Macallan. Have you had any bottles from the SMWS of Macallan? Because Macallan at CS is much much better IMO. It's not even a close race.
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TheShrink » Fri May 16, 2008 8:20 pm

I've a 15 yr old Fine Oak opened which I'll try when I finish this glass . . . I'd forgotten how much I like Macallan :D
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 8:23 pm

Oops, forgot to put brand in my notes. Wonder if the forum pixie will tidy it up for me? :angel:

The Shrink - was your 10yo sherried or Fine Oak?
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 8:24 pm

Collector57 wrote:I kind of expected to be alone in my lack of regard for Macallan. I obviously don't have the palate for it.
WM scores it anywhere from 7.75 to 8.something I find.

I get the impression lots of folk on the forums aren't so big on Macallans. It seems out of fashion, or is it that it tastes different from it's hey-day?
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TheShrink » Fri May 16, 2008 8:25 pm

The new spangly Macallan web site doesn't mention caramel.

A cache of their old site does, saying their colour is natural so caramel's not used :
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:aF ... cd=4&gl=uk
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TheShrink » Fri May 16, 2008 8:27 pm

TreacleSponge, the notes I just made were on my rather pleasing sherried 10 yr old. I'll pour the 15 FO when I finish this rather splendid glass 8)
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Matt2 » Fri May 16, 2008 8:30 pm

I think some people don't like it for other reasons - nothing to do with taste or flavour. Pricing, marketing as a premium malt etc have caused more than a few discussions over the years.

Looks like the pixies have been in Treacle :insane:
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 8:33 pm

Awe Doc, you sound so content there with yer glass :)

Thanks Matt - aren't those li'l pixies just the best ;)
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TheShrink » Fri May 16, 2008 8:35 pm

I'm happily wedded to Macallan which I love, in all it's sherry loveliness.

But I know I'm a fickle wee soul, since I don't even suffer to have a bottle of Aberlour in my house :o
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 8:41 pm

TheShrink wrote:I'm happily wedded to Macallan which I love, in all it's sherry loveliness.

But I know I'm a fickle wee soul, since I don't even suffer to have a bottle of Aberlour in my house :o

That's so sweet :lol: But we'll see if you're so loyal after a few more Live Tastings :twisted: :P
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 8:46 pm

Macallan 30yo

The Macallan
30 yo
Rich, dusty, spicy. Marmalade, soft vanilla. Not as sweet and fruity as the 10, although gets much fruitier and floral with water.
Big. Oily. Dry. Sherry, cinnamon, a bit of bubblegum, gingerbread, apricots, toffee.
Strong and long. Spices, ginger, peppery
The sherry goes without saying but it's moved on enormously from the 10. Tons better, and I didn't dislike the 10. Water makes a huge difference.
Burnished gold
0

30 Years Old
0
43%
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Single Malt
Highland
yep
None
Glencairn
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 8:49 pm

Collector57 wrote:W|ell, that's all the Macs I have open and the wife wants to go to the pub. So it's goodnight from me for a few hours.
Thanks for all the comments - I'll maybe re-read with some glasses of Mac in front of me another day and try to get some of these aromas and flavours!


Cheers Nick, good notes!! :D
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 8:53 pm

That 30 yo Fine Oak sure does sound yummy Treacle!!!! :smoke:
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby arkle » Fri May 16, 2008 8:54 pm

Hi all,
just reading through the postings,I only have the sample from Matt(which I have tasted) but can you tell me the difference in flavour between sherry and wood?ie is the bitter taste the wood?
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TheShrink » Fri May 16, 2008 8:56 pm

The Macallan 15 yr old Fine Oak

Colour : Again, a glorious warm amber. Although it's spent 50% longer in the cask than the sherried 10 yr old I just tried, it's appreciably paler.

Nose : Again, I get sherry. The 43% alcohol lifts out sweetness as before but also a more typically whisky aroma, and unlike the sherried 10 YO I get a hint of cut wood. The hint of sweet fruit (ripe peach) in the 10 YO has shifted to a more restrained sweetness (raisins?).

Palate : Chewing gives tingles up the middle of my tongue, almost to both sides. Very smooth again, somthing that's very inviting and entices me to sip more, I could easily enjoy this all evening! There's still the sherry flavour and buttery/creaminess but also more of a malt/barley thing going on, too.

Finish : Again, a long and pleasant finish. Really long, it's taking an age to get to the end of the finish to see what's there! Sweetness and a hard woodiness combine, shifting from raisnis/sherry tones in to wood, through the finish.

Just for the record although we're up from 40% to 43% I still (as is my wont) drank this without water.

Sadly, although a more complex and arguably a "better" malt, I much prefer the sherried 18 year old Macallan. Although simpler, what it does it does so well, such that I even favour my sherried 10 year old over this. Ho hum!
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TheShrink » Fri May 16, 2008 9:00 pm

Re : The 15 year old Fine Okak

After the tasting and writing below I read what Michael Jackson and Dave Broom thought, I can see why Dave Broom gets "hot sawdust" from, even though I don't get anything like that vivid.
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 9:01 pm

arkle wrote:Hi all,
just reading through the postings,I only have the sample from Matt(which I have tasted) but can you tell me the difference in flavour between sherry and wood?ie is the bitter taste the wood?


arkle, without a dram in front of me, this may be hard to explain. I'm going to try though. The wood tastes in Macallan I get are more like a whisp of wood smoke, on the palate. The sherry is definitely the sweeter tastes, with mixed fruits/spices etc. I suppose either could be the bitterness you're getting though. Drink lots of water to cleanse your palate and try again. Sometimes depending on what I've ate for dinner etc, the sherried malts taste different. I hope this helps.
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby arkle » Fri May 16, 2008 9:02 pm

Thank you, I'll give it a go and try again!
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Matt2 » Fri May 16, 2008 9:06 pm

Hi Arkle, I often find wood to be more of a mouthfeel than a taste as such, but quite often a bitter note. Although some woods come across quite sweet. Hope that helps :? :wink:
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby TreacleSponge » Fri May 16, 2008 9:07 pm

Hi Arkle. I'm not so good at articulating flavours as this lot, but the big difference between the 10 and 30 I found tonight is that the 30 is much drier & spicier, the 10 sweeter, so maybe that's the wood?
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Re: The Macallan - 16 May 2008 @ 7pm GMT

Postby Ryguy » Fri May 16, 2008 9:10 pm

mikeymad wrote:Thanks for your notes on the 10yo Willie, and thanks for not saying Sherry. When I have Macallan, I don't really think Sherry, I think of all the components. Cooked oranges, spices, cinnamon, cooked apples, raisins. It is like when I have sherry and wine, I don't say, yep, tastes like Sherry, tastes like wine....

Cheers,


Great explanation Mikey! Good to have a Macallan expert around! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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