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I'm so ashamed....

Postby tuddy24 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:34 pm

....I never thought this would happen. :roll:

The other day I had written a post to find a good new SM to try. All the ones I had tried, initiated by the Famous Grouse blend, were great yet I still felt the need to keep searching. Well after reading many reviews and hearing many good things about Johnny Walker Black, along with the fact that Binny's had it on sale for $24, I broke down and bought it to see if all the hype was true. All I can say is wow. Talk about balance and complexity. After adding a splash of water, I always do, I couldn't help but feel that this scotch has a lot of the flavor that all the SM's I've had before wrapped up in one package. Smokey Toffee/caramel on the nose, some very subtle creamy fruit on the palate with a citrus component lurking beneath it all, and that finish....smoke, sweetness, and caramel. It's true that the SM's I have sampled had more pure individual flavors but JWB had so many. It was almost like drinking a good pure Cabernet vs. a perfectly balanced Bordeaux blend. The blends can drive you crazy in trying to identify all the flavors within. Is my palate just not made for SM's? Last night I poured a dram of Highland Park 12 and.....I wanted the JWB instead. The JWB had a creaminess to it that the HP12 did not. Anyway, just wanted to confess that I sold out to a name brand :(
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Re: I'm so ashamed....

Postby evanstonwhisky » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:46 pm

You should be different than most everyone else here and be a blend connessoir then.

Teacher highland cream: also 24 at Binnys, I always wanted to try it. I tried JWB, it is def. a darker, multifaceted flavor. Teachers I heard is lighter, "creamier".
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Re: I'm so ashamed....

Postby Mr Fjeld » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:01 pm

Nothing wrong in enjoying blends tuddy24! Blends are sometimes good and sometimes bad - just as single malts! I'm certainly not a specialist but my impression is that those who are good usually have a higher proportion of single malt (or pure pot distilled whisky if it's irish) in the vatting - which leads to my next point; do yourself a favour and try some of the irish blends such as the Jameson 12. In my humble opinion they are way better than most of the scottish blends I've tried and they are just as good as any single malt.
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Re: I'm so ashamed....

Postby lancj1 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:23 pm

I Love the black....do your self a favour and try the Blue too. I am also a Chivas fan, I enjoy a good blend but the cheaper ones always go on ice...and go down too. I must admit I tend to have the blends when I want a drink...and malts when I want to savour and learn.

I think drinking is so much down to personal taste, whether its spirits, beers, wine etc, that you can never be wrong, and you should never drink to please other people. If you dont enjoy Talisker, or Chablis or Czech lager...its your call and your money
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Re: I'm so ashamed....

Postby Novice Scotch Fan » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:26 am

tuddy24 wrote:....I never thought this would happen. :roll:

The other day I had written a post to find a good new SM to try. All the ones I had tried, initiated by the Famous Grouse blend, were great yet I still felt the need to keep searching. Well after reading many reviews and hearing many good things about Johnny Walker Black, along with the fact that Binny's had it on sale for $24, I broke down and bought it to see if all the hype was true. All I can say is wow. Talk about balance and complexity. After adding a splash of water, I always do, I couldn't help but feel that this scotch has a lot of the flavor that all the SM's I've had before wrapped up in one package. Smokey Toffee/caramel on the nose, some very subtle creamy fruit on the palate with a citrus component lurking beneath it all, and that finish....smoke, sweetness, and caramel. It's true that the SM's I have sampled had more pure individual flavors but JWB had so many. It was almost like drinking a good pure Cabernet vs. a perfectly balanced Bordeaux blend. The blends can drive you crazy in trying to identify all the flavors within. Is my palate just not made for SM's? Last night I poured a dram of Highland Park 12 and.....I wanted the JWB instead. The JWB had a creaminess to it that the HP12 did not. Anyway, just wanted to confess that I sold out to a name brand :(


Nothing to be ashamed about. You just happen to like blends maybe better than SM, which is the same for me. I agree that JWB has a many layers of flavor that I have failed to find in most ,but not all, single malts. There are a few exceptions like HP18. Generally, single malts while good, take a single flavor profile or note, and do something well with it, but always seems to be very pronounced with one flavor. Consider 12 yr old Macallan for example. In that you have sherry as the principal flavor done well, but not much else there. In JWB, there is smoke, peat, cinammon, all manner of flavors mingling in very good harmony. I know most on here do not share my view, but what can i say, I'm an unabashed blend lover. HP 18 though has greater complexity than any blend. I guess the point I am trying to make is that most single malts have a single dominant flavor, that can make many rather one dimensional while blends can offer up a multitude of flavors, mind you I am talking about high end blends like Ballantines 17 and 21 yrs, Famous Grouse 18 and 30 yrs. Especially FG 30yr. I cant imagine someone telling me that it lack complexity that can only be found in some 12yr old single malt.

You also write that you "sold out to a brand name." There should be no embarassment that you like Johnnie Walker. hey, that's your preference (right now, it may evolve over time). You have no more sold out than others on here that rant and rave over Ardbeg, Macallan, Highland Park, etc. You just happen to like one of the best selling blends in the world, and for good reason, its pretty damn good. Dont be embarassed, and I think Johnnie Walker is fashionable to bash, a little too fashionable. March to the beat of your own drum, just as everyone else on here does. its all about taste, that is your taste, not mine or anyone else's.
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Re: I'm so ashamed....

Postby ClubSmed » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:48 am

Novice Scotch Fan wrote:March to the beat of your own drum, just as everyone else on here does. its all about taste, that is your taste, not mine or anyone else's.


As the great Edward Monkton said:
"We must all DANCE to the MUSIC of our own DRUM. But what if our own drum is BROKEN or we are hearing SOMEONE ELSE'S DRUM by mistake?"
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Re: I'm so ashamed....

Postby Reggaeblues » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:03 am

Collector57 wrote:Ah another Monkton fan!
Not all potatoes.....can swim.


Nick, I never met a potato that could swim. Potato head, yes - me!

Meanwhile , back in the world of blends v. malts...

I once got through 3/4 of a bottle of JWB with a friend in one evening. Each dram tasted better than the last as I recall.

JWB is the only blend I ever bought, and still enjoyed by me when out and about...though it has to be said I would choose a malt first!(Though I have chosen JWB over standard Glenfiddich on a number of occasions...)

Maybe you should try JW Green...an all-malt blend...and not a lot more expenzive than the Black. Isn't the Blue a bit heavy on the pocket??

PS. Blackbush Black Label is a fun blend too. But the classiest blend I ever drank was "Asyla" by compass box. Absolutely delightful whisky.
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Re: I'm so ashamed....

Postby scotchdrinker » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:50 pm

Reggaeblues wrote:Maybe you should try JW Green...an all-malt blend...and not a lot more expenzive than the Black. Isn't the Blue a bit heavy on the pocket??


I agree with Reggae completely. I only tried JWB for the first time a couple months ago. Only, had a wee dram of it but it was much nicer than I expected it to be. I have only had a few blends besides that, I have had Dewar's white label which is only okay not much for straight up in my opinion and I have also had Chivas which is quite nice but I like the JWB much better. I have also had JW Blue but its nice but expensive.

Tuddy, you should definitely try JWG it is really good. And as Reggae and just mentioned the blue is totally heavy on the pocket, even from Duty free. It is good but not worth so much more money than even great SM's. A lot of the finished SM's are quite balanced if you want any recommendations let me know.
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