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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Toronto_Andrew73 » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:25 pm

1 oz bruichladich 10 + 1 drop of tawny port. I invented that several years ago (and will fight to the death anyone who claims they invented it first)...it's great.

i've long contemplated doing a house blend (and may yet try)...but most of the scotches i have are perfect in their own way. so why blend?

randomly mixing together a few scotches is not a blend..it's a cocktail!

to do a proper "blend" right you would ideally need at least a dozen bottles of various scotches of different ages with different (and unique) flavour profiles. and a lot of trial and error. personally i'd work it out on paper first with my tasting notes as a guide.

taste the JW green to get an idea of what you would aim for in a vatted malt (no grain whisky)...it's perfectly balanced, as is the blue (but i doubt anyone has such old whiskys lying around to try blends with).
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby The Third Dram » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:33 am

Toronto_Andrew73 wrote:i've long contemplated doing a house blend (and may yet try)...but most of the scotches i have are perfect in their own way. so why blend?

Click on the link below, scroll down just a little bit and look for "A Rich Pour - Column No.13: All For One & One For All", dated June 16, 2008...
http://www.cigarweekly.com/magazine/lifestyles/
That's why! :wink:

P.S. I too like adding miniscule portions of various fortified wines to certain single malt Scotches.
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby UUNetBill » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:42 am

Toronto_Andrew73 wrote:1 oz bruichladich 10 + 1 drop of tawny port. I invented that several years ago (and will fight to the death anyone who claims they invented it first)...it's great.

Tried something similar tonight - Lap QC and a drop of 20 yo Tawny Port - very, vey nice. Might try a drop in my Moine Mhor later this week. . .

Fun stuff!! :thumbsup:
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby si_peacock » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:10 pm

I have a living bottle at home where I pour the last few oz of many (not all) of my bottles and leave to marry. At the moment, this has been sitting for around 8 months and has 17 different malts - all with different flavours and ages. Everything from a First Batch Springbank 11YO to Laph Quarter Cask.

I admit my produce is going to be heavily peat influenced because of the provenance of my bottle collection at home. However, it should be far from a peat monster given the sherried influence of the Springbank and some decent 'farclas.

I've not tried it yet - being firmly of the idea that I want it to marry for at least a year first. And when I do, I will still top it up so that every dram I have should be genuinely different.

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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby UUNetBill » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:52 pm

Now THAT sounds interesting!! You'll have to let us know how it comes out.
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby peergynt323 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:07 am

I recently made my own blend. 4 ponies of hedonism, 3 OMC Highland Park (not that great to drink on its own), 2 of a Whisky Galore Glenlossie and 1 of a Provenance Port Ellen for sherry and smoke.

It's pretty phenomenal in my humble opinion.
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Reggaeblues » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:38 pm

I have yet to try mixing together Talisker with Oban.

Then I can say "I drink Taliban!"
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby lancj1 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:16 pm

Interesting topic..

my favourite is a five way way blend, in equal measure, of

Bowmore, Strathmill, Oban, Kilchoman and Springbank

All I need now is a name :smoke:
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby LagaDrinker » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:00 pm

Reggaeblues wrote:I have yet to try mixing together Talisker with Oban.

Then I can say "I drink Taliban!"

:lol:

Now that I have got to try
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Reggaeblues » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:39 am

Well, here am I face to face with the Taliban... :shock:

Been sipping Oban 14( a christmas gift) while watching the men's downhill skiing from Kitzbuhel...now to add a few drops ( no more...) of Talisker 57.
(57% ABV)

Tastes of talisker! This actually reminds me of an extraordinarily smoky version of JW Red i encountered on a flight back from Brisbane 2 years ago!

a few sips in, it's mellower than the 57 on its own...a nice chocolatey finish that neither whisky has! Strange...but enjoyable. The CS Talisker does rather take over, but then it is one of the more "Characterful" distilleries, so no surprise. I rather suspect that had i done the same with a Dalwhinnie 15, or a Glen Garioch 15(two "highland" 43% drams i am currently enjoying ) the result would be similar. the "smoked redcurrant" Talisker effect would still predominate, even tho' this "Taliban" cant' be more than about 25% Talisker by volume...

So I might mix me a DALWHISKER just to be sure, before bed... :iwbrnt:
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Reggaeblues » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:42 am

Well, the finish on the Taliban is lovely, lingering...just don't try offering it to any fundamentalists. you might get shot.

this is definitely the drink of infidels! :o
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby The Third Dram » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:13 pm

Poured some of one of my home blends (pure malt) last night. I named this particular one The Peat Kiln, and it clocks in at 46.3%ABV... The 'recipe' contains varying quantities of Ardbeg 1990 10YO (OMC), Arran 10YO, Benriach 10YO Curiositas, Bowmore 17YO, Brora 1982 20YO (RMS), Caol Ila 12YO, Convalmore 1977 28YO, Glenmorangie Madeira Wood Finish, Lagavulin 12YO (CS), Laphroaig Quarter Cask, Oban 1983 DE, Old Pulteney 12YO, Scapa 12YO, Springbank 10YO and Talisker 10YO. Very harmonious with an overall smoothness, but still packs lovely peat'n'salt surges from start to finish.
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Reggaeblues » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:25 pm

How the heck did you manage to measure the ABV???

BTW, last night I opened a christmas gift of a litre of standard Lapfroaig at 40%...good fun. then, on refill I added a splash of a rather raw and slightly sulferous Glen Moray sherry cask@60%...Marvellous! reminded me of the SMWS sherry finished Laphroaig...

Glen Frog anybody?
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby dramtastic » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:41 am

Ahhh, I once blended a SMW with Coke.
The result, a wonderful solvent for cleaning various metals as well as my internals.Whoa back up, me thinks to much information!!
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby The Third Dram » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:26 pm

Reggaeblues wrote:How the heck did you manage to measure the ABV???

Precisely delineated amounts of each of the constituent single malts (I measure down to increments as small as 5ml) to begin with, followed by a little simple math.

I usually allow for a 0.1% to 0.2% loss of ABV (due to evaporation) during the blending process. :wink:
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Postby Reggaeblues » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:03 pm

Well congratulations!

Just don't talk to me about "simple math" - there's no such thing! It was I who got 8% and a thrashing in my algebra exam at school, and I've never looked back. Maybe that's why it took until around my 50th birthday to discover and fall in love with SMS...the headmaster's breath always stank of whisky before his ritual beating sessions!

So forgive me if i'm a bit vague...

Next up for me will be the Dalwhisker, or to be imprecise and unmathematical,
Dalwhinnie 15 with "just a splash" of Talisker 57 degrees...

But a little later. I have to go play some Reggaeblues tonight.
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Reggaeblues » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:38 am

Finally tried a "Dalwhisker" - 15Yo dalwhinnie wi' a splash o' Talisker 57.

well , it were only a splash, but it dominates! Dalwhinnie being kind of delicate in comparison...I might just as well have been drinking talisker 10....but as it faded the "david" dalwhinnie started to peep through the "goliath" talisker at 57%...


Actually, damn fine, but I think next time ill add even less! Just a few drops is enough.

A fun experiment though. Now I'm drinking Aberlour 10 YO with a splsh of glen moray - the same sherried one that I mention in my last post.

Boy! this vatting business is fun!
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby The Third Dram » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:13 am

pkt77242 wrote:The taste was ok, but I think it would be better with some time for the flavors to combine.

What were your proportions of the two, Sean? I'd imagine the rather heavily and sweetly charred (almost 'smoky', dare I say) characteristics of the Elijah Craig could easily overpower the relatively subtle (by comparison) traits of the Ardmore if blended in anything approaching equal quantities. Sounds very interesting!

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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby The Third Dram » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:12 am

I believe there have been a couple of articles in Whisky magazine addressing the creation of 'multinational' blends, Sean. If I remember correctly, there was some concensus that many Bourbons possessed an uncanny ability to 'drown out' Scotches (as well as other whiskies such as Canadian) unless they were utilized in smaller amounts. Much of this undoubtedly has to do with the degree of barrel char employed by the Bourbon distillery. And I'm quite sure that Elijah Craig specifies a rather heavy char (likely No.4) for its barrels. This factor, in combination with the 94-proof bottling strength, makes for a pretty robust spirit.

I too am very fascinated with the possibilities inherent in mixing such diverse liquors, but just haven't quite come to grips yet with the stylistic parameters these sorts of blends entail.

Has to be a lot of fun, though! :wink:
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Gooner » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:51 pm

we had a whisky tasting last year where Dom set us loose to make our own blends with his tasting leftovers. It was a laugh, but I cant remember what malts we used, ended up doing too much tasting and not enough blending ... my results at least were pretty grim, still have a small bottle at the back of my cupboard.

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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Reggaeblues » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:06 am

Relaxed with one of my favourites tonight - Black Bottle with a splash(20%)
ardbeg 10.

I call it "Islay Over Easy!"
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Gov » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:17 am

Reggaeblues wrote:Relaxed with one of my favourites tonight - Black Bottle with a splash(20%)
ardbeg 10.

I call it "Islay Over Easy!"


Well getting the idea from you before, I have tried this with Caol Ila 12 splashed over Black Bottle. The result, quite excellent!!! Black Bottle is an extremely fantastic cheap blend. I only wish it was easier to find :evil:
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Reggaeblues » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:18 pm

Do they have "Tesco's" in USA?

That's where I get mine.

Something about the blend that is just built to take on the character of whatever Islay you splash over it! Quite extraordinary, It tastes so complete!
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Stewart » Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:52 am

I make my own blend in a glass now and then. For instance, got Longmorn 15, which despite great reviews I found a bit bland and butterscotchy for my taste. So, to spice it up a bit, tonight I blended:

--2 parts Longmorn 15
--2 parts Glenlivet 18 for its sherried nature
--1 part Ardbeg 10 for earthy, full-bodied peat.

I found it a harmonious blend...delicious! I suppose if one's going to try a blend, it's ideal to let it sit several months or years...I don't know. But in a pinch, it can work. Sometimes it doesn't.
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby The Third Dram » Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:58 pm

A trio of single malts (vatted in equal proportions) that really works...

Ardbeg 10YO
Auchentoshan 10YO
Glengoyne 12YO Cask Strength

The Ardbeg contributes all those wonderful Ardbeg characteristics (complex, multilayered peat along with that inimitable bittersweet fruit quality). The Auchentoshan adds some sticky-sweet citrus and textural softness. And the Glengoyne brings yet more malt, greater alcohol, structure and gingery spice to the mix.

Tasty just about anytime. :thumbsup:
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Liechtenstein » Fri May 15, 2009 12:12 am

Thanks to Ganga for having directed me to this conversation.

I regularly make my own blends when several of my bottles are nearing empty. I pour the contents together into one bottle and drink the result. I do this just for fun and never try to recreate a blend.

I also have a friend who works at an airline and he gives me left-over unopened bottles of complimentary whisky offered to First Class & Business travellers...I blend those as well.

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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby lancj1 » Fri May 15, 2009 9:04 pm

>I regularly make my own blends when several of my bottles are nearing >empty. I pour the contents together into one bottle and drink the >result. I do this just for fun and never try to recreate a blend.

yep thats my approach too. IMHO what I am doing is reducing the chance of that last inch or so going "off" and clearing ot the empty bottles. Everything goes in and its a constantly changing dram - I keep it in a decanter and just top it up - blends, SMS, bourbons - they all go in.
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Liechtenstein » Fri May 15, 2009 10:54 pm

lancj1 wrote:>I regularly make my own blends when several of my bottles are nearing >empty. I pour the contents together into one bottle and drink the >result. I do this just for fun and never try to recreate a blend.

yep thats my approach too. IMHO what I am doing is reducing the chance of that last inch or so going "off" and clearing ot the empty bottles. Everything goes in and its a constantly changing dram - I keep it in a decanter and just top it up - blends, SMS, bourbons - they all go in.


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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Liechtenstein » Thu May 28, 2009 12:57 am

I have a bottle of Bowmore 18 which I've never liked. I just blended 1oz of Bowmore 18 with 2oz of Jim Beam (white label).

Bizarre taste...it seems to be Bowmore without the iodine edge...I think that I have just ruined two perfectly good ounces of Jim Beam!

OK...now I've just turned my mixed drink into a whisky spritzer by pouring a can of club soda into it.
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Very smokey...amazing how the Bowmore overpowers the Beam. It seems that the Bowmore's character pushes through in this blend.
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Liechtenstein » Thu May 28, 2009 2:51 am

lockejn wrote: You might try a double of JB with just a few drops of the Bowmore administered with a straw. I think you'd be surprised at just how little it takes to get a big effect.


Thanks...I like your idea of using a straw! I'll try a revised JB/B-18 blending tomorrow evening and will be following your suggestion. I'll let you know how things work out.

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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Liechtenstein » Fri May 29, 2009 1:16 am

lockejn wrote: You might try a double of JB with just a few drops of the Bowmore administered with a straw. I think you'd be surprised at just how little it takes to get a big effect.


I just followed your recipe and I like the result. Into 2oz of Jim Beam, I added 6 drops of Bowmore 18...the result is delicious. I still recognize the JB's sweetness but it has been tempered by the B-18.

Excuse me now...I must investigate this further!

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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby AdamMY » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:45 am

I mentioned this yesterday in the "What are you drinking now" thread, but I decided to talk about my half Bushmills 10 and half Glenlivet 12. It really reminded me of a slightly sherried, with a hint of more fruits version of my Knappogue Castle 1995 bottling, which of course is a bushmills product. Quite interesting, but I think I'd rather appreciate them seperately.
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Liechtenstein » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:19 am

I've found that mixing 6 or 7 drops of Bowmore 18 into 2 oz of Schenley OFC (a Canadian blend) makes a very enjoyable drink.

WARNING: I will try something totally new tomorrow, mixing Bowmore 18 into one of my favourite rums: Newfoundland SCREECH. I'm looking to increase that rum's smoky character.

AdamMY wrote:Quite interesting, but I think I'd rather appreciate them seperately.


This may be my verdict in the rum-meets-Islay marriage but I'll have fun pairing these two.

AdamMY,

I noticed on your blog that you reviewed McCarthy's Single Malt from Oregon. I found where I could buy it but was unable to get a price. Do you remember what you paid for it?
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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Liechtenstein » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:12 am

Tonight, Newfoundland SCREECH is married to Bowmore 18. Since most of you have never heard of SCREECH, here are my tasting notes:

Nose: molasses, smoked meat/corned beef, pepper.

Palate: cooked waffle, molasses cookies, charcoal & wood notes.

Finish: warm & lingering, cooked molasses.

Now, the marriage: I mixed 6 drops of Bowmore 18 into 1½ oz of SCREECH...

Nose: iodine, woodfire smoke, charred bacon.

Palate: acrid...cigarette smoke, dirty ashtray. Overwhelmingly pungent. Odd flavours that compliment each other.

Finish: dirty ashtray & molasses. Molasses takes over after 20+ seconds and lingers with an iodine aftertaste.

+++++

I am tempted to say «bad marriage» but...it isn't. It's like one of those couples you meet now and then and you ask yourself «What does she see in him?!»

Live dangerously!

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Re: Your Own Vatting/Blend

Postby Reggaeblues » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:20 pm

I have a 9YO SC Glen Moray, bourbon barrel sent to me to sample courtesy of the distillery, as the latest cask to be used for my "Jim Clark Malt" that i am marketing on a "cottage industry" basis to fans of the scottish racing driver. So far I have sold about 50 bottles!!

but it lacks the burnt citrus/licorice sweetness and vanillins of the earlier 2 casks - a bit dry as a result. Not at all bad, clean, but like a drier Glenlivet Nadurra. It just lacks that dimension I'd grown used to in this whisky.

I mixed in a few drops of A'bunadh 15...not the best batch, but quite acceptable. A bit weak on the finish.

the result? It kinda improved both drams!

Re: the JC MAlt, I;ve told them I'd like a sweeter cask! they're considering a Portwood finish. Can't wait to try it, as I've loved every such whisky I've tried, from the old glenmorangie, to the excellent Bowmore Dawn.
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