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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby lohssanami » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:00 am

Di Blasi wrote:I'm hoping my brother brings me back a liter of the Ten from Duty Free in a few weeks, and if so, I'll be sure to give you the necessary numbers and bottling info! :thumbsup:


Thanks a bunch!
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Deactivated Member » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:34 am

Does anyone have a 10 up for sale or would be willing to part with one?

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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Deactivated Member » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:59 am

Fishy wrote:Does anyone have a 10 up for sale or would be willing to part with one?

Have you tried Royal Mile Whiskies: http://www.royalmilewhiskies.com/produc ... 0000008715 ?
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby orangedogofglory » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:33 pm

Collector57 wrote:
FeisIslay wrote:Does anyone have a 10 up for sale or would be willing to part with one?

Cheers

Try the "two Ardbeg 10s for sale" thread by SaltyDog


those are gone. are the shops in Europe really low on Ardbeg 10? seems a bit early for it to be difficult to find "the old" bottles.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby lohssanami » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:41 pm

From all the information I've seen and read (though I don't live in the UK), the current expression of Ardbeg 10 is readily available, and will be readily available for most of the rest of this year.

I was also told that there is still plenty of supply in the US, though the price has gone up 25-35% this year.

Just to recap, I started this thread looking for older bottles of the Ardbeg 10, and I have no problem finding the current stock.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Di Blasi » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:10 pm

I too heard the current Ten will run easily through the rest of the year, no worries there luckily!
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Deactivated Member » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:00 am

apologies, it was actually the older bottle of 10 im after - not the one that everyone can go buy in the supermarket
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby lohssanami » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:12 am

Ahhhh...do you mean one like this here?

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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Bunkermania » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:05 am

Or even better:

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There was one sold at the last whiskyauction. I was suprprised to see it at a price as "low" as 476 Euros.
I will not part from mine for that price, then I rather drink it.
They hade it without box at thewhiskyexchange about a year ago. If I remember it correctly it was sold for about 600 GBP.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Di Blasi » Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:13 pm

lohssanami wrote:Ahhhh...do you mean one like this here?

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Don't tell me you found one of those scavenging through one of those classic San Jose/South Bay strip mall liquor shops lohssanami???! Damn lucky if so!
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby lohssanami » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:20 pm

Di Blasi wrote:
lohssanami wrote:Don't tell me you found one of those scavenging through one of those classic San Jose/South Bay strip mall liquor shops lohssanami???! Damn lucky if so!


No...unfortunately, I didn't find one. Just found the pic...

Nice bottle Bunkermania! Did you buy it when it was still available in retail?
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Ganga » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:37 pm

Does anyone know how this older ten compares to the new "old" ten? Lochside Hotel had one but I couldn't justify the price compared to the older independent bottlings of Ardbeg.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Spirit of Islay » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:34 pm

Haven't drunk one of these.....
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But have drunk one of these Rich.....
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First had several drams with the previous owner of The Lochside then managed to land a bottle for a bargain price of £150 (believe you me that was cheap....) .

It's nothing like the current TEN , more akin to the VOA , loaded with iodine , smoke , smooth and dry .
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Ganga » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:06 pm

Sounds quite tasty Gordon (SOI). Thank you for the feedback on the older 10s. :thumbsup:
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Bunkermania » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:07 am

lohssanami wrote:
Di Blasi wrote:
lohssanami wrote:Don't tell me you found one of those scavenging through one of those classic San Jose/South Bay strip mall liquor shops lohssanami???! Damn lucky if so!


No...unfortunately, I didn't find one. Just found the pic...

Nice bottle Bunkermania! Did you buy it when it was still available in retail?

Thanks. No I didn't buy it then. It is actually a swap I made with a Taiwanese friend. He got a SC Ardbeg bottled for Denmark, which of course was very hard for him to find in Taiwan. I made a good swap as I also got a Talisker Isle of Eigg together with the Ardbeg 10 clear bottle.
Hopefully I will open the Ardbeg next year together with some other rare Ardbegs. It will be a very nice tasting.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby bjorn » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:29 am

lohssanami wrote:
Malt-Teaser wrote:My last remaining 1977 does seem to have the postal code on the front label.
MT

Your 2004 Uigeadail should be dated before day 315 (L4 315 14:32 4ML), but possibly after 212 (L4 212 00:49 4ML). If it is after 212, it would be interesting to know the exact code just to narrow down the date the label was changed. I've been able to find examples like yours (Traditional Strength in gold on front and no post code) up to day 212, and the earliest after the change (Non-Chill Filtered in gold on front and with the post code) is day 315.


Ha, you're right! L4 212 03:48 4ML with Traditional Strength in gold lettering
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby lohssanami » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:40 am

bjorn wrote:
lohssanami wrote:
Malt-Teaser wrote:My last remaining 1977 does seem to have the postal code on the front label.
MT

Your 2004 Uigeadail should be dated before day 315 (L4 315 14:32 4ML), but possibly after 212 (L4 212 00:49 4ML). If it is after 212, it would be interesting to know the exact code just to narrow down the date the label was changed. I've been able to find examples like yours (Traditional Strength in gold on front and no post code) up to day 212, and the earliest after the change (Non-Chill Filtered in gold on front and with the post code) is day 315.


Ha, you're right! L4 212 03:48 4ML with Traditional Strength in gold lettering


:P :thumbsup:

Hey Bjorn...

Nice bottle you have there, and good to know that the label's are consistent with my "studies". It's a bit hard to get these dates nailed down, considering I don't even have most of the bottles I'm researching, but folks here on the forum are helping a ton.

Cheers...
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby lohssanami » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:22 pm

Has anyone in the US or Canada seen an Ardbeg 10 with L8 (2008) starting the code? This would still be stock of the current 10, and it will have nothing to do with the impending release of the new 10 later this year.

I've heard "L8" current 10 is released in the UK, but I haven't seen them in the States yet. I also heard there is a new sticker on the 2008 releases showing the "Whisky of the Year" from Jim Murray. Can anyone confirm this sticker on the box?

Thanks...
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby orangedogofglory » Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:12 am

every since reading this thread, whenever I'm at the shop I turn the Ardbeg bottles over. no one has questioned me yet... :oops:

anyways, the majority of what I see is still L6. will let you know if any L8s start showing up though.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Bunkermania » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:40 pm

I have seen and bought L8 without the sticker on the box and also with the sticker on the box, so they are out there now.
I bought both of them in Germany.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby jimidrammer » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:24 pm

The ones I've seen or have are L7's. I also have 2-L4's and 3-L5's. The "Introducing Ten Years Old" has been long gone, but was an L0. I know I've had L3 also, not sure of others. I kind of wish I had kept back samples of each to do what you are doing. It will be interesting to know the evolution of this bottling. Keep us posted when you do the flight. It would also be nice to know what age actually was in them. Could the current L7's be almost the same as Airigh Nam beist? They sure seem similar.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby lohssanami » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:30 pm

Collector57 wrote:
lohssanami wrote:Has anyone in the US or Canada seen an Ardbeg 10 with L8 (2008) starting the code? This would still be stock of the current 10, and it will have nothing to do with the impending release of the new 10 later this year.

I've heard "L8" current 10 is released in the UK, but I haven't seen them in the States yet. I also heard there is a new sticker on the 2008 releases showing the "Whisky of the Year" from Jim Murray. Can anyone confirm this sticker on the box?

Thanks...

That's on the box in the Tesco near me now. Some have it, some don't, so it looks like the new stock coming through.


It may be newer stock of the current 10, but not the new release of the new 10. HAHA...a little ambiguous...eh? Yes, I've heard the 2008 releases of the current 10 may have the sticker on the box, but I'm not sure if the Glenmo distilled 10 will have a sticker on the new box. Probably not as it is a different distillation. Just me thinking out loud...
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Spirit of Islay » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:53 pm

lohssanami wrote:
but I'm not sure if the Glenmo distilled 10 will have a sticker on the new box. Probably not as it is a different distillation. Just me thinking out loud...


The box looks different Tim......
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby lohssanami » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:46 pm

Spirit of Islay wrote:
lohssanami wrote:
but I'm not sure if the Glenmo distilled 10 will have a sticker on the new box. Probably not as it is a different distillation. Just me thinking out loud...


The box looks different Tim......


Yes...I saw all of the new box pictures on your site, but I was just thinking out loud about the ambiguous nature of my sentences and the references to old box, sticker added on old box, new box, new 10, current 10, etc...haha. I assume the sticker is just one added to the current box, and it wouldn't be added to the new box referenced on your site recently.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby r900p » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:24 am

Just posted on Gordons site about some boxes Ardbeg 10 boxes i saw last night in Tesco, certain ones were far darker than the others, the darker ones look really beaten up too.Anyone know if there was a colour change and if so when, unlike Tim i'm scared of looking at each bottle :oops:

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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby lohssanami » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:46 pm

Rob,

I'll have to get out my boxes and compare the coloring of each from 2000 to now. I don't remember a distinct difference in color, other than the fading I see on some from exposure to light.

I don't have any boxes from 2002-2004, but the label on the bottle I have from 2003 has a darker shade on the label where there is normally white. Areas such as the white lettering of "Ardbeg", "TEN", and the other writing on front in white.

Go ahead and check the bottle Rob. Just picture the Ardbeg's as Bruichladdich's, and you'll have no problem. LOL.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:18 am

John McGill wrote:
Technically the 4ML is the bottling line and not the code for a particular distillery but saying that I think every Ardbeg I have was bottled with a 4ML code.

Most of the Glenmorangie bottles I have are all 3ML but my current Laphroaig Quarter Cask also has a 3ML code.


Having just finished a list of the codes on my bottles for Tim , the New TEN and Blasda has the end code 6ML .

It's possible that Laphroaig now use Glenmo to bottle their stock as i think i read somewhere that the new owners had out sourced the work . But it could also be that the line bottling the QC is from the same Manufacturer and uses the same programme so has the same type of code .

Following Tims guidelines for the Code (which i think are right ) has thrown up some interesting things while rummaging through my Ardbeg bottles , the main one was the Ardbeg Very Young , seems there could have been 3 batches of this done on Day 210 , Day 258 and Day 351 !
And there were at least 3 batches of 1977 which i thought there was only one ! Perhaps the first batch was the 2,400 bottles that was mentioned on LFW ?
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby John McGill » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:08 am

lohssanami wrote:Your 2004 Uigeadail should be dated before day 315 (L4 315 14:32 4ML), but possibly after 212 (L4 212 00:49 4ML). If it is after 212, it would be interesting to know the exact code just to narrow down the date the label was changed. I've been able to find examples like yours (Traditional Strength in gold on front and no post code) up to day 212, and the earliest after the change (Non-Chill Filtered in gold on front and with the post code) is day 315.


Tim, my 2004 Uigeadail has the following code L4 272 01:31 4ML, i.e after 212 and I'll dig it out in the morning to check the label for you.
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby lohssanami » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:33 am

John McGill wrote:Technically the 4ML is the bottling line and not the code for a particular distillery but saying that I think every Ardbeg I have was bottled with a 4ML code.


I have a Glen Moray 16 (Black Watch) from 1997, and it has a 4ML at the end. From all the information we've found, it must be a bottling line or specific bottling plant that has the "4ML" code.


John McGill wrote:Tim, my 2004 Uigeadail has the following code L4 272 01:31 4ML, i.e after 212 and I'll dig it out in the morning to check the label for you.


Hey John...I recently received a 2004 Uigeadail with code L4 272 04:22 4ML (US version - 750ml Brown-Forman), and the Traditional Strength, no Post Code and "Bottled in 2004" are still intact. It would seem that the label change has now been narrowed down to somewhere between 272 and 315. Similarly, the addition of the Post Code on Ardbeg 10 is somewhere between 271 and 313 of that same year so I am starting to think that the label change on these may be at the same time. A proverbial "monkey wrench" can be thrown in if your L4 272 has the label changes.

Spirit of Islay wrote:Following Tims guidelines for the Code (which i think are right ) has thrown up some interesting things while rummaging through my Ardbeg bottles , the main one was the Ardbeg Very Young , seems there could have been 3 batches of this done on Day 210 , Day 258 and Day 351 !
And there were at least 3 batches of 1977 which i thought there was only one ! Perhaps the first batch was the 2,400 bottles that was mentioned on LFW ?


As for the Very Young's, I have only seen 210, 258 and 351 as well. Might have been just the 3 different runs.

As for the 1977, I have confirmed that they were bottled in 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004, but I can't confirm if all markets saw each year. I do have a picture of one with a somewhat "scrunched" together code with the large "L" that I have only seen (and confirmed) on an Ardbeg 17 mini box from 2000. However, I can't confirm if the 1977 was first bottled in 2000.

Lots of info to be had...
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby John McGill » Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:14 pm

lohssanami wrote:
John McGill wrote:Tim, my 2004 Uigeadail has the following code L4 272 01:31 4ML, i.e after 212 and I'll dig it out in the morning to check the label for you.


Hey John...I recently received a 2004 Uigeadail with code L4 272 04:22 4ML (US version - 750ml Brown-Forman), and the Traditional Strength, no Post Code and "Bottled in 2004" are still intact. It would seem that the label change has now been narrowed down to somewhere between 272 and 315. Similarly, the addition of the Post Code on Ardbeg 10 is somewhere between 271 and 313 of that same year so I am starting to think that the label change on these may be at the same time. A proverbial "monkey wrench" can be thrown in if your L4 272 has the label changes.


Checked my L4 Uigeadail and it's a UK 70cl bottle, with "Bottled in the year 2004" on the back label, "Traditional Strength" on the front label and no postcode.

The back label is the one that mentions "'It is a special vatting of 1993 Ardbeg matured in bourbon barrels and many older sherry casks" which I think this was changed in later bottlings?
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Spirit of Islay » Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:51 pm

lohssanami wrote:


I can't confirm if the 1977 was first bottled in 2000.



Tim , i found an old copy of my website from when i had it on Geocities (not long after i first done a one....) and the 1977 was first released May 2001 so no 2000 Bottling !
It was a busy time 2000/1 compared with previous Years....
The First TEN came out in 2000 (from 1990 Stock) .
The 2392/4 Committee bottles came out late 2000 .
The 1977 Came out May 2001 .
The First LOTI came out Late 2001 (Possibly November , picked my first one up from RMW on a week-end away in Edinburgh) .
The 21yo Committee Bottle came out late 2001 (they always used to release the committee bottles in Nov/Dec , nice Christmas Present !) .
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby r900p » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:41 pm

The Committee bottlings seem to be the Feis Ile bottlings now is that right?

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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby BigPapi » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:12 pm

This thread is ruining my life! I have just spent a good couple of hours looking through my bottles of Ardbeg and Glenmo.

Could someone explain the large L as opposed to the small L at the start of the codes please? I have an 18 year old Glenmorangie with a large L, taking up 2 lines, followed by 7 114 3ML in the top line and underneath that line is 10:33. Does this mean that it was bottled in 1997? I ask this because it is the old style bottle and round tin. It is a 1 litre bottle as well with "FOR DUTY FREE SALES ONLY" on the label.

I will try to post a picture later if i work out how to!

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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Spirit of Islay » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:22 pm

r900p wrote:The Committee bottlings seem to be the Feis Ile bottlings now is that right?

Rob



No Rob , they are two different things , Corryvreckan was a committee bottling , this year there was no Feis Ile bottling due to the release of the Renaissance , the last one was a 1975 i think , too expensive for me unfortunately .
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Re: Ardbeg 10 wanted!!!!

Postby Spirit of Islay » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:32 pm

BigPapi wrote:
Could someone explain the large L as opposed to the small L at the start of the codes please? I have an 18 year old Glenmorangie with a large L, taking up 2 lines, followed by 7 114 3ML in the top line and underneath that line is 10:33. Does this mean that it was bottled in 1997?



Yes this is a 1997 bottling BP , that is the old style code printing , i have a few Ardbegs with this style of printing on . Provenance , 1975's , 1978's , the last one was the Committee 21 which was bottled in August 2001 . So it changed sometime just after that . We've got a discussion going on over at my sites Forum as well in the Ardbeg Section .
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