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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby John McGill » Fri May 23, 2008 2:46 pm

Looks like they've started to ship the bottles as I've just received mine :D
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby pavv » Fri May 23, 2008 2:52 pm

Pfffff.....£100, .....£350, .......£ 800.....

"A sought after bottle"....I really begin to dislike the collectors who only see the number of bottles and therefore their rarity....
A fancy label and a (small) numbered edition seems to get you a nice premium for your ROTM whisky.

The only thing that really interest me is......

Does it taste any good??????

Thát should be the main issue with a bottle of whisky.

I, too, sometimes buy whiskies at high prices, sometimes even very high. Such as a few cl from this £900+ bottle of Springbank
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....Not because it's rare, but because the contents is probably DIVINE.
(and I probably pay through the nose for this because there are collectors that only buy this stuff because it's rare...)
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby adogranonthepitch » Fri May 23, 2008 7:47 pm

I got mine .. just the one.

am I happy?

Yeah. .... but only mildly.
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby r900p » Fri May 23, 2008 10:22 pm

APC couldn't find my house, i have to meet them somewhere on tuesday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby adogranonthepitch » Sat May 24, 2008 7:54 am

Rob .... you is havin' a complete and utter Weston super .........
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby John McGill » Tue May 27, 2008 7:03 pm

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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Deactivated Member » Tue May 27, 2008 8:03 pm

That isn't a price that will be sustained over time. From the picture it looks like any other HP bottle but with a different label - and not even numbered. If that's the case, and if it sells for high prices, I can't see it being limited to 89 bottles for very long.
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Redland Hill » Tue May 27, 2008 9:11 pm

Is it just me or do I detect a hint of dislike for HP Mr brown ?

Its not the best release they have done, unlike the rebus it is not a unique bottle, its simply just a 30 year old bottle and box rebadged. But given theres only 89, I can see it reaching the high hundreds, afterall there are alot of HP collectors out there

PS I have a spare one if anyone is interested .... :)
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby les taylor » Tue May 27, 2008 9:24 pm

Redland Hill wrote:Is it just me or do I detect a hint of dislike for HP Mr brown ?

Its not the best release they have done, unlike the rebus it is not a unique bottle, its simply just a 30 year old bottle and box rebadged. But given theres only 89, I can see it reaching the high hundreds, afterall there are alot of HP collectors out there

PS I have a spare one if anyone is interested .... :)


I might be at face value.
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Deactivated Member » Tue May 27, 2008 9:31 pm

Redland Hill wrote:Is it just me or do I detect a hint of dislike for HP Mr brown ?

Not at all - I like HP very much indeed. If you'd been around for a bit longer, you'd know that one of my fondest memories was a bottle of HP 1967 that I bought in 1993. Relative to my disposable income at the time, it is still the most expensive whisky I have ever bought - and probably the most expensive whisky I am ever likely to buy. My dislike is people who talk up run of the mill bottles as though they are a licence to print money - that leaves people getting hurt or disappointed when the true value becomes clear. This is a nothing bottle that I reckon to be worth about £100-£150 now and less in a couple of years.
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Redland Hill » Tue May 27, 2008 10:12 pm

The 67 is indeed a nice bottle, and a nice dram ... and a bargain at the time, I believe £60 if my memory serves me right. They really should have stayed with the dumpies

As for your comment about the bottle dropping in price in the future I dont agree. In the glass its still a 19 year old, something not produced by HP as a stock bottle. Its like any collectable, its worth what someone is willing to pay ...
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Deactivated Member » Tue May 27, 2008 10:13 pm

Only time will tell...
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby bear » Wed May 28, 2008 9:53 am

Just spotted this on ebay with no reserve! £250 :o

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Highland-Park-Que ... dZViewItem
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby PaulP » Wed May 28, 2008 10:58 am

I am not at all surprised this bottle is reaching these prices and I can expect it to go higher.

Firstly, it was limited to 89 bottle which is one of the most limited bottles HP have done. I know there was the Orkney rugby club and Maxxim relabelled 12's but they did not come in a box and a nice bottle with a exclusive redisigned label. Also this is a 19 year old, not a run of the mill bottling like the two 12 year olds mention previously. This has more of an appeal to a wider audience as it is something a bit unusaul from HP and collectors and whisky drinkers alike will want to be a part of.
Also the fact that HP allowed two bottles per order, will increase the price on the secondary market. The few people who placed orders prob realised this and got their max no. of bottles. I would estimate that only about 50-60 orders were placed, with many of those for two bottles. Of all the HP collectors all over the UK, never mind the world, for only 50-60 people to getting will obviously again lead to inflated prices on the secondary markets.

Secondly, the whisky itself is a top dram!! I know it was marketed more towards collectors but it is a really great whisky. I was lucky enough to have a couple of drams from a friends bottle (don't worry he opened it not me! :wink: ) and can report that it is a complex whisky with a lot going on on the palate. I got hints of heather and of slight peat, with fruit. The finish was long and one that invited you back to the bottle! A top drop :D

I don't know what the market price of this bottle will eventually but I suspect it will be over £500 as some bottles will be drunk and so on.
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby PaulP » Wed May 28, 2008 11:46 am

P.s. There is a laphroaig 12 Oloroso cask on ebay for over £200. There were 300 mof these bottle which is more than the HP. I understand that for Laphroaig this is a unusual cask but it is still a 12 year old at over £200. SO for a 19 year old with a third of the number of bottles I would expect the prices seen.
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Deactivated Member » Wed May 28, 2008 1:29 pm

I see there are now several bottles of the HP Queen of the South on Ebay.

Some have started their listings at £400 which shows the expected price for these bottles is going to soar.

Defo a must for any HP collector.

I have been bidding on one but went as far as £350 and have been outbidded!!

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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby yangbrucey » Wed May 28, 2008 2:27 pm

Looks like the QOS HP is the new Black Bowmore! There are currently 4 bottles on Ebay at over £400 each. Looks like £800 a bottle is not as unrealistic as many thought - well done r900p! By the way, people who ordered 2 bottles were subsequently contacted by email and told that they were being limited to one bottle due to the high level of interest.

With reference to the Laphroaig Oloroso 12, there were actually 632 bottles. It was a one-off bottling and will not be repeated - I know this, as I spoke to John Campbell of Laphroaig on Saturday at the Feis Ile. Most of them will have been bought and drunk by air travellers who didn't really know what they were buying as they were placed in amongst the standard expressions of Laphroaig without any fanfare.
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby PaulP » Wed May 28, 2008 2:39 pm

yangbrucey wrote:By the way, people who ordered 2 bottles were subsequently contacted by email and told that they were being limited to one bottle due to the high level of interest

Earlier in the thread this is mentioned but HP did not limit all orders to 1 bottle as I know several people with two and I persume that others around the UK managed to get two and this is obviously the case given the bottles being on ebay!

yangbrucey wrote:With reference to the Laphroaig Oloroso 12, there were actually 632 bottles

My mistake I assumed that the info earlier in the thread was correct! :oops:
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Deactivated Member » Wed May 28, 2008 6:06 pm

FeisIslay wrote:I see there are now several bottles of the HP Queen of the South on Ebay.
then the price will fall - it seems people don't actually want the bottles, just the profit
Some have started their listings at £400 which shows the expected price for these bottles is going to soar.
they may expect the price to soar - to me it looks like a fear that the bottles will sell relatively cheaply. You will probably get more for a bottle that has no reserve.
Defo a must for any HP collector.
but there aren't many of them about
I have been bidding on one but went as far as £350 and have been outbidded!!
I thought you already had one - why do you need another?
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby PaulP » Wed May 28, 2008 6:09 pm

adogranonthepitch wrote:I got mine .. just the one.

am I happy?

Yeah. .... but only mildly.


Are you sure you only got the one??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Highland-Park-Que ... dZViewItem

You must be happy now, 550 quid return in a week - not bad!
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby les taylor » Wed May 28, 2008 6:34 pm

I've made Chris an offer he has 47 hours and 59 minutes to consider it. :)
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby adogranonthepitch » Wed May 28, 2008 8:56 pm

PaulP wrote:
adogranonthepitch wrote:I got mine .. just the one.

am I happy?

Yeah. .... but only mildly.


Are you sure you only got the one??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Highland-Park-Que ... dZViewItem

You must be happy now, 550 quid return in a week - not bad!


Paul .. for the record .. I did only buy one.

This bottle belongs to a friend of mine.

... thats why there is NO BLOODY PHOTO !

I have come home to take the photograph!
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby adogranonthepitch » Wed May 28, 2008 8:58 pm

Game On ........
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Ganga » Wed May 28, 2008 9:15 pm

And here I thought you were financing a new Hoover. :P
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby les taylor » Wed May 28, 2008 9:34 pm

Nice picture Chris although there seems to be a lot of orange and pink things hanging around in the background of the picture.

Chris what did you think to my most generous offer? :wink:
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby adogranonthepitch » Thu May 29, 2008 8:04 am

les ... modern art that is .....
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Deactivated Member » Thu May 29, 2008 1:35 pm

why have you slashed your price from £650 to £380?? seems a bit of a drastic drop!!

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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby adogranonthepitch » Thu May 29, 2008 1:44 pm

Many times has the the words hoover and Dog been mentioned in the same breath. But things have changed my friends ... why you ask, why has the Dog changed his spots? Why has he lost his Dyson ways? the ability to be able to spot the difference between a Vax and Henry hoover, the meory of all Hoovers part numbers going back to the 1950's (including that tricky period in the mid 70's when the rubber belt for the TX-0001a was tricky to manufacture ... let alone fit

No my friends, todays word is philanthropist.

As you might know I bought ONE bottle of the HP.

I love my bottle (not in rude way - more the way a farmer loves his fields of wheat)

However, my friend wanted to sell his bottle, but wanted to add something back to this great community.

He wasnt greedy, no no my friends. He wanted his fellow collector a chance to share in this great bottle.

He was shocked at the dirty greed some collectors, no speculators had such bottles on ebay for ... with 4 days to go, bids from these poor souls were reaching the heady heights of GBP470. How could they sleep at night with such increases of 370%.

I must stand up and appauled this mans courage to only take a meager 280% profit on his bottle.

Wow this country is great!
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby les taylor » Thu May 29, 2008 1:48 pm

What's that funny smell around here. :?
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby adogranonthepitch » Thu May 29, 2008 1:53 pm

no bull here les!
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Ganga » Thu May 29, 2008 2:18 pm

:lol: No longer shall he be called Dog of the Hoover but Dog the Sainted. :lol: Or should it be Dog the Generous? :lol:
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Deactivated Member » Thu May 29, 2008 2:42 pm

[quote="adogranonthepitch"]
However, my friend wanted to sell his bottle, but wanted to add something back to this great community.
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So i take it he is donating the money to a charity within Dumfries then?? Which one?

I find it hard to believe that such english gentleman would either a) support QOS b) rangers or c) drop their price so quickly, by so much unless he was just trying to make a quick buck.

Normally charity bottles go to auction in order to raise as much as possible! I am sure the community would much rather that approach

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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby les taylor » Fri May 30, 2008 5:39 pm

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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby John McGill » Sat May 31, 2008 10:27 pm

One of the QOS bottles just ended at £460 :shock:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260244703296

I thought we might be seeing the upper limit on this bottle but of the others on eBay there's one at £470 with nearly 3 days still to go.
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Re: Heads up - incoming HP

Postby Deactivated Member » Sat May 31, 2008 11:33 pm

Basically, it's pyramid selling. The true value is way, way below this.
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