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Seasonal influences on whisky destilling?

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Ardbeg NEW Committee Bottling

Postby Ian_Hamilton » Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:15 pm

Theres a new one out. Anyone got any news on this?
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Postby JUERG GLUTZ-KURMANN » Wed Feb 26, 2003 2:27 pm

Hi,
the new Committee bottling has got stuck on Islay due to heavy demand. But I was told that they will despatch the lovely stuff within a couple of weeks.
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Postby Steve » Thu Feb 27, 2003 12:46 am

I got my bottle a couple of weeks ago, but haven't started it yet. It's a vatted malt made up of various ages of Ardbeg.
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Postby Ian_Hamilton » Thu Feb 27, 2003 11:57 am

How much does it cost, does anyone know more about it?
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Postby MacAndersson » Thu Feb 27, 2003 12:16 pm

Is it really a vatted malt?
As far as I know blending whisky from different years doesn’t make it a vatted malt as long as it is whisky from the same distillery. Blending whisky from different year is done on regular bases in order to get the right taste. The whisky then gets is year from the youngest whisky in the mix, but it is still a single malt. A vatted malt is single malt from two or more different distilleries.
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Postby adogranonthepitch » Wed Apr 09, 2003 9:18 pm

Just back from Ardbeg and picked up the Committee Bottling. Its predominately made up of very early 1990's, with some 1980's and a touch from the the late 1970's.

Cant wait to open it. They have about 350 bottles left fro the original 3500 bottled. Hurry up!

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Postby adogranonthepitch » Wed Apr 09, 2003 9:19 pm

Forgot to say its £45
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Postby r0b » Wed Apr 09, 2003 10:23 pm

Are orders FINALLY being sent?
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Postby WhiskyHill » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:41 pm

I ordered 2 bottles the first week of January; e-mailed Jackie last about 6 weeks ago and she assured me my bottles were queued up for delivery. My charge card still hasn't been billed and my intermediary (as Ardbeg won't ship to the States) says he hasn't seen them yet...
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Seasonal influences on whisky destilling?

Postby Rudy » Sun Apr 13, 2003 3:14 pm

Hello everybody,

as an advanced novice I quite enjoy the postings in this BB and would like to contribute by following up on Eriks advice to Iain on the vintage subject.
I guess this is about vintage taken a level further.

To answer your question about temperature and weather, Iain, I tried to find an answer in some books and found the following:

Charles MacLean mentions in 'Malt Whisky' that water temperature is crucial (for the cooling of the production process) but adds in the same sentance that most destillers cool the water anyway. He mentions further that destillers are able to determine whether a whisky was destilled in spring or autumn. Winter destilled whisky appears to be the best. He suspects the temperatue difference between the environment and the still: the higher the environment temperature, the higher the chance that unwanted elements pass through the still.

Graham Moore in 'Malt Whisky' mentions the change in water quality: the chemical make-up of water changes with the ambient temperature, with the quality falling as temperature rises. According to GM this is the reason why some destilleries close in summer.

Walter Schobert (Das Whisky Lexikon) and Thierry Bénitah (Whisky) only mention that there should be a lot of water available (that's why some destilleries close in summer) and that it should be cold, but they both don't reveal the reason.

Of course we know of the foreshots and feints being returned to the low wines/feints receiver but Philip Hills' in 'Appreciating Whisky' wonders about the possible influence this has on the taste of whisky if this happens over and over again. Furthermore, PH tells about the receiver that is opened and cleaned once a year. Its walls are coated with a dark waxy oily substance that might contibute to flavour...

I could not find any more in other publications, not even in , so, who could fill the gap here?

But now to the practical side, this seems more important yet even more difficult to determine: what does the time of destillation do to the taste of whisky?

I spoke to a bottler once, who stated that sampling casks with successive casks numbers revealed huge differences in taste and quality....

If we (the consumers) want to compare, we have to do it with commercial bottlings available, I guess, so:

adogranonthepitch mentions The Provenance with season bottlings. As for Port Ellen, the 18y winter bottling is aged in sherry cask, and the 19y looks like plain oak (bourbon?) to me. So we can't compare the seasonal influance with these.

Since most Independants except for G&M and Scott's state the month and year of destilling/bottling, has anyone noticed any seasonal differences?

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Postby adogranonthepitch » Sun Apr 13, 2003 7:32 pm

To r)b and Whiskyhill

When I was at Ardbeg, the girls said they were overwelmed by the response for the bottling. These were the reasons the bottling were delayed.

* 2500 people sent in for bottles.
* Each bottled is packed individually ( no computers)
* The Post Office will only take 20 to 30 bottles a day for posting, as they are flown off the island. The aircraft can not take any more weight.
* They hope to have them out by the end of April (ish)
* They also say there is plenty to go around.

Hope this helps
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PS If you are going to Islay, stop at The White Hotel in Port Ellen. Good Accommodation. Fair Prices. Good food.
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Postby Ian_Hamilton » Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:37 pm

And Ardbeg can not arrange to get the bottles shipped to the mainland for posting?
If they are really flying out twenty bottles a day (i'm sorry it sounds too stupid to be true) then they want locked up.
I have hearned there are many good things going on at Ardbeg but I've yet to see them.
I was there last year and did not enjoy the tour which was taken by someone who knew what to say but could not ask answer any questions, oh and said stocks of the 17 year old were almost exhausted so I should buy a bottle in the shop right way.
Incidentally I am still waiting on details of the bottling, I am a member (but didnt get an e-mail r.e. the bottling) and even though I have asked three times already I still have not received any details. I did get an e-mail from them wanting my credit card number!

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Postby WhiskyHill » Mon Apr 14, 2003 11:55 pm

I ordered 2 bottles the first week of January; e-mailed Jackie last about 6 weeks ago and she assured me my bottles were queued up for delivery. My charge card still hasn't been billed and my intermediary (as Ardbeg won't ship to the States) says he hasn't seen them yet...
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