centrefire wrote:Those big stills in Kilbeggan distillery are only ornaments, they are not functioning. There is a small still in use there, its very old.
centrefire wrote:Hi Folks:
I was at a wedding on saturday, the reception was in a North Midland Hotel. I arrived with 2 friends. I was expecting that only the usual Bushmills, Jameson and Powers whiskeys would be on sale. I scanned the shelf and spotted a little fat greenish/brown bottle of maked Redbreast "J J Jameson and son" 12 years old Irish whiskey.. I called 3 half ones for me and my 2 friends and told them this was good whiskey.
Well, they did not agree and when I tasted mine it was awful, not even as good as a cheap supermarket blend. There was an ugly wood taste. At first I thought it might have been filled with inferior stuff by deceitful staff, but on inspection of the bottle (in a hurry), I discovered that it did not say pure pot still. I then noticed the words "Gilbeys". in small writing. The taste is very similar to Tullamore Dew, not a favourite of mine at all and I think there is a link between them.
Now, there may be folks out there who will set their mind on buying "pure pot still Irish whiskey" There are 2 which are only imitation. One is Redbreast / Jameson marketed by Gilbeys of Ireland and the other is Redbreast with a white label on a conventional clear glass bottle marketed by Edward Dillon, Dublin. This is a slightly better blend of PPS and grain. Note! niether are the genuine article.
centrefire wrote:Thats good Cathoch
I wonder could we discuss the issue of whether whiskey "goes off" or changes if left for long periods in the bottle. I have a little experience of this.
centrefire wrote:Anyway: I was given all of them. Screw lids were intact.
All the whiskey was gone off. The Jameson which was in a standard glass bottle had a musty stale over sweat taste. The other were also over sweat, stale. I gave samples to 2 other people and they could not drink them either. I was suprised. I realy believe that the dusty conditions some how made its way into the bottle over the years. What do you think.
I found a bottle of cod liver oil on the damp floor of an old shed yesterday, it smells ok. Did not drink it. Strange.
Bruichladdict wrote:I have been trying to get a straight answer about whether Redbreast 12 yo Pure Pot Still whisky is a blend or not. I have found that Wikipedia lists it as a non-blend, as do a number of Irish Whisky enthusiast sites. Whisky Mag lists it as a blend. Does anyone have a definitive answer to this question...I'm trying to decide if I want to try this stuff or not (i.e: buy a bottle in my language)...it seems everyone agrees is quite a good whisky.
Whisky Mag lists it as a blend.
Doesn't the enzyme content of the malted at least partially "malt" or liberate the sugars in the unmalted barley?
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Pure Pot Head wrote:Doesn't the enzyme content of the malted at least partially "malt" or liberate the sugars in the unmalted barley?
Yes, I heard that too Aidan but I don't see that this makes any difference to the question as to why Whisky Mag classify Redbreast as a 'blend.'
The secondary 'malting' all happens within the wash before it goes into the wash still. Unless it has something to do with the fact that there are two types of Pot Still vatted together after maturation, bourbon matured Pot Still and sherry cask matured pot still! Don't single malts also vat varying cask types as well?
Pure Pot Head
I don't think Greenspots worth the â‚¬45. I do like it, it's very moreish and I'll always get a drop of it in a bar if the price is below a fiver but 45quid for a bottle is a bit much imo.
Shame there's only the two pure pot stills.
this blending happens almost exclusively after maturation
michael Foggarty wrote:but it wont be available in Newry! (dont get me started on cross border shopping!)