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drinking whiskey and rye, singing....

Postby Marvin » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:08 pm

What is whiskey and rye? Is the whiskey a rye whiskey or is the bloke actually drinking whiskey and rye, in which case how do you drink rye?
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Postby hpulley » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:32 pm

Rye is what many people call Canadian Whisky even though most contain very little rye in the mashbill; they don't call it Rye Whisky, just rye like "rye and ginger". Whiskey, on the other hand, refers more to American and Irish Whiskey. Scotch isn't generally called Scotch Whisky here, it is simply called Scotch.

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Postby TheLiquorBaron » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:13 pm

Marvin great question!! I know the tune and when I saw your question I thought straight away about the song... :lol:

But...Does he not sing..."Whisky and DRY"
I think it fits better in the sentence....if the words are "whisky and dry" then I assume he is referring to whisky and dry ginger...?? Now that is a common drink but I have yet to see anyone have a "Whisky and Rye". It's actually one of the same.
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Postby Marvin » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:17 pm

Ah yes dry ginger, that makes sense.
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Postby Scotchio » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:32 pm

I always thought it was rye but then I also thought it was the kettle blowing that woke Jesus in the manger
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Postby Choochoo » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:41 pm

I think it's refering to a collection of "good old boys", of whom some are drinking whiskey (probably bourbon from corn mash), and some are enjoying rye (bourbon made from rye).

And even though this group may be divided by the type of bourbon they are enjoying, they are all able to easily overcome this difference, and sing songs together.

But then again, maybe I'm thinking of the wrong reference.
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Postby Jan » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:46 pm

It is rye! Googled the lyrics:

So bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
Singin, thisll be the day that I die.
Thisll be the day that I die.



Perhaps he drank two different kinds of whiskey... or was probably at a loss for something rhyming on "dry" :wink:
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Postby TheLiquorBaron » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:05 pm

Jan wrote:It is rye! Googled the lyrics:


Nice work!! :wink:

Ok now we have the lyrics...
"And them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye..."

I think we can safely say now that there is obviously more than one person drinking and that there are indeed 2 drinks being drunk - A Whisky and A Rye.

However I have this question now...
What is a levee...??
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Postby Marvin » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:25 pm

A levee is a type of dam, like the one that burst in New Orleans when they had the hurricane. I'm not sure why he was driving his Chevy there though... :lol:
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Postby TheLiquorBaron » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:35 pm

Marvin wrote:A levee is a type of dam, like the one that burst in New Orleans when they had the hurricane. I'm not sure why he was driving his Chevy there though... :lol:


Cheers Marvin!
Maybe though it was hot and he was going to hook up with the boys for a swim in the 'levee' but it was dry... :lol: :lol:
Or he was going to go fishing?? but again the levee was dry...LOL
And so the boys decide to get 'pissed'... :roll:
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Postby TheLaddie » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:25 am

Bar Items wrote:
Marvin wrote:A levee is a type of dam, like the one that burst in New Orleans when they had the hurricane. I'm not sure why he was driving his Chevy there though... :lol:


Cheers Marvin!
Maybe though it was hot and he was going to hook up with the boys for a swim in the 'levee' but it was dry... :lol: :lol:
Or he was going to go fishing?? but again the levee was dry...LOL
And so the boys decide to get 'pissed'... :roll:


Maybe the levee was dry because them good old boys had drunk all the whisky and rye...
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Don McLean's anthem to whisky and rye...

Postby Muskrat Portage » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:05 am

:shock: ...and here I'd always thought the whole basis of the Don McLean song was the loss of Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper & Richie Valens in a 'plane crash, "The Day the Music died" and that the Jester was none other than Elvis .

I've spent some memorable evenings dramming with good friends while the long version was playing.
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Re: Don McLean's anthem to whisky and rye...

Postby TheLaddie » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:27 am

Muskrat Portage wrote::shock: ...and here I'd always thought the whole basis of the Don McLean song was the loss of Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper & Richie Valens in a 'plane crash, "The Day the Music died" and that the Jester was none other than Elvis .

I've spent some memorable evenings dramming with good friends while the long version was playing.
Pete


You can get a few drams in in 8:32... :) "Vincent" is a great drinking song too.
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Re: Don McLean's anthem to whisky and rye...

Postby Quaichuser » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:49 am

Muskrat Portage wrote::shock: ...and here I'd always thought the whole basis of the Don McLean song was the loss of Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper & Richie Valens in a 'plane crash, "The Day the Music died" and that the Jester was none other than Elvis .



Elvis is the King mentioned in the verse after that one.

I think you'll find the Jester is actually Bob Dylan, wearing a denim jacket. It then talks about about the late sixites with references to Charles Manson, the Stones at Altamont and the Byrds, with the Jester on the sidelines in a cast( After his motorcyle accident)

Cheers to a great tune. Think I pour myself a dram and have a listen again.[/code][/list]
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Postby Reggaeblues » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:56 am

OK, so here's another question. Different song, same deal. In B.B. King's song "Sweet little angel"( I think!) she gives him a "whisky still" unless my ears deceive me...

Now, either that's an American concoction/combination i don't know about, or she took that train( as one does in blues) to Speyside, ripped out one of The Macallan distillery's stills while they weren't looking and took it home under her coat to B.B who was so touched he picked up "Lucille" and wrote the tune...

Any info/insights/ideas gratefully received!

P.S.For non B. B. afficianodaos, Lucille is his guitar, but that's a whole 'nother story...
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Postby TheLaddie » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:10 am

Reggaeblues wrote:Now, either that's an American concoction/combination i don't know about, or she took that train( as one does in blues) to Speyside, ripped out one of The Macallan distillery's stills while they weren't looking and took it home under her coat to B.B who was so touched he picked up "Lucille" and wrote the tune...


...inside the still, where the acoustics were really good...
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Postby Deactivated Member » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:02 am

If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
When the levee breaks I'll have no place to stay.
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Postby hpulley » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:05 am

Should I stay or should I go?

Is this now the musical equivalent of the word association thread?? ;)

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Postby Mr Fjeld » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:51 am

If I go there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double
So come on and let me know
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Postby TheLaddie » Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:17 am

MrTattieHeid wrote:If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
When the levee breaks I'll have no place to stay.


Now that's more like it! :D

hpulley wrote:Is this now the musical equivalent of the word association thread??


I hope not. There aren't any songs about deranged miniature ponies... :roll:
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Postby Deactivated Member » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:42 am

TheLaddie wrote:
I hope not. There aren't any songs about deranged miniature ponies... :roll:


Ive been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
cause there aint no one for to give you no pain

La la la la la la etc ect

[i]My Lovely Horse
- Father Ted entry for Eurovision

Next. :D [/i]
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Postby irishwhiskeychaser » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:32 pm

MrTattieHeid wrote:If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
When the levee breaks I'll have no place to stay.


I reckon that crew will go down like a lead balloon :wink:
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Postby Jan » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:32 pm

My Little Pony, My Little Pony
What will today's adventure be?
My Little Pony, My Little Pony
Will there be exciting sights to see?
Where will you wander? Hither and yonder
Letting your heart be your guide!
My Little Pony, My Little Pony
I'll be there right by your side
I'll be there right by your side


Intro/theme song for the cartoon tv series "My Little Pony"

Beat that 8)
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Postby TheLaddie » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:47 pm

Jan wrote:My Little Pony, My Little Pony
What will today's adventure be?
My Little Pony, My Little Pony
Will there be exciting sights to see?
Where will you wander? Hither and yonder
Letting your heart be your guide!
My Little Pony, My Little Pony
I'll be there right by your side
I'll be there right by your side


Intro/theme song for the cartoon tv series "My Little Pony"

Beat that 8)


What may I beat it with? I am torn between a crowbar and some birch twigs... :twisted:
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Postby Jan » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:51 pm

use the crowbar...please

Absolutely hate those pastel-colored, overromanticized, invented-to-make-little-girls-pester-their-parents ponies...

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Postby Scotchio » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:29 pm

Marvin wrote:A levee is a type of dam, like the one that burst in New Orleans when they had the hurricane. I'm not sure why he was driving his Chevy there though... :lol:


Apparently in the Scandinavian version they drove the Ford to the fjord, God only knows why it was dry unless of course someone had removed the illicit still. Perhaps like Golden Brown there is more to this lyric than 1st meets the eye !
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Postby hpulley » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:16 pm

Jan wrote:use the crowbar...please

Absolutely hate those pastel-colored, overromanticized, invented-to-make-little-girls-pester-their-parents ponies...

:wink:


The sad thing is... if you kept the originals you can now sell them on eBay like original Star Wars figures since, like Star Wars, there are new ones out now (not sure if the ROI is as good as whisky of that age, however). My sister had a zillion of them, too many to even bother opening all of them, luckily for her as unopened packages are always worth the most. Now she's tried to get my daughter hooked on them but so far she has only shown mild interest, thankfully, and none at all in the TV show (though she might be too young for it).

The brand awareness of young, pre-literate children is just amazing. The marketing people do their jobs very well! Or some of them do. Very expensive being a parent...

Now, what was the topic again? Oh yes, songs about deranged Ponies. What about Ween's "Mister, would you please help my pony?":

Mister, would you please help my pony?
He's over there behind the tree
He's down in the dirt, would ya help him?
I think it's his lung

Mister would you please help my pony?
He's chewin' bark and not the leaves
He's cryin' like a baby, would you help him?
I think it's his lung

Mister, would you please help my pony?
He's down and he ain't gettin' up
He coughed up snot in the driveway
And I think his lung's !@#$ed up

Pony, Pony, Pony

Mister, would you please help my pony?
I think it's his lung

Mister, would you please help my pony?
He's over there lookin' at me
He can't talk because he's a pony
I think it's his lung

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Postby TheLaddie » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:23 pm

Scotchio wrote:Apparently in the Scandinavian version they drove the Ford to the fjord


Was Mr Fjeld driving the Ford to the fjord? :D
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Postby TheLaddie » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:25 pm

hpulley wrote:Now, what was the topic again? Oh yes, songs about deranged Ponies. What about Ween's "Mister, would you please help my pony?":


Oh my. I have spawned a monster... :oops:

My apologies to everyone, especially Admiral...
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Postby Scotchio » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:32 pm

TheLaddie wrote:[quote="ScotchioApparently in the Scandinavian version they drove the Ford to the fjord


Was Mr Fjeld driving the Ford to the fjord? :D[/quote]


I'd like to think so.
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Postby Jan » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:48 pm

hpulley wrote:... if you kept the originals...


Just to ensure that there is no doubt: I have never owned a midget pony - pastel-coloured or not :lol: :lol:

But interesting, Harry. Had never imagined that there would be a collectors market for those :shock:
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Postby hpulley » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:58 pm

eBay.com currently has ~1500 'vintage' (pre-1990) and another ~3000 current My Little Ponies listings... compared to 38 bottles of scotch, mostly miniatures though I'm sure the liquor difficulties here skew those results in My Little Pony's favor ;)

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Postby Deactivated Member » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:05 pm

TheLaddie wrote:I am torn between a crowbar and some birch twigs...


That sounds like fun!
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Postby Deactivated Member » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:10 pm

I quoted Lyle Lovett a while back on Word Association, but hey, you don't get to 4,000 posts without repeating yourself:

If I had a boat
I'd go out on the ocean
And if I had a pony
I'd ride him on my boat
And we could all together
Go out on the ocean
Me upon my pony on my boat
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Postby Deactivated Member » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:14 pm

irishwhiskeychaser wrote:
MrTattieHeid wrote:If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break,
When the levee breaks I'll have no place to stay.


I reckon that crew will go down like a lead balloon :wink:


Well, that was indeed the inspiration for the name, and it was John Entwhistle who devised it--said in an interview that would be the name of his band if he ever had one apart from the Who. Whether he gave it to Jimmy Page and co or they stole it, I do not know.
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