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Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)


Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

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For those of you who do not know what these are about, they run for generally 12+ hours and we all sit down (at various times) to taste a range of whiskies and share our notes and comments on the forum. Have a look in the Live Tasting forum for past events.

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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Ganga » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:19 pm

Well, I've been up enough today to merit a dram...Black Friday and all. :D Besides, I may end up out of town tomorrow. :(

Glass: large brandy

Hart Bros. 12 yo, 5.93-8.05
46%
single port pipe
bottled for Park Ave. Liquor

Nose: lightly spiced dried fruits (apricots, raisins, apples), cooking herbs, carraway seeds?, vanillas
Palate: raisins, plums, mixed seasoning
Finish: not overly long, kind of towards a plum pudding
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:38 am

Must be mollases in them here bottles. Look how long it took to pour dram #2.

10 yo OMC bottling. Don't know anything more about this including where it came from. :(

Large brandy glass

Nose: lemon, dough, varnish
Palate: freshly baked buns, lemon peel shavings
Finish: long, flour and grains
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Ganga » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:44 am

Hm, a sample from the LA Scotch Club. Unfortunately, no bottler indicated. OB? Doubtful.

1993
13 yo
refill sherry butt

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Nose: bread for the birds, dough being mixed, herbs-mortar & pestal
Palate: prunes, dough, nutmeg
Finishe: medium and warming, mild spices
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:49 am

Ganga wrote:a sample from the LA Scotch Club. Unfortunately, no bottler indicated. OB? Doubtful.

I don't remember there ever being a 13yo OB so I think it must be a IB.

I won't be dramming until this evening, but it should be a good one I think.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:54 pm

Hmm, I rather assumed this would be going strong by now. Still, I'll just go and get the equipment sorted out and make a start.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Ryguy » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:57 pm

I look forward to reading your notes everyone, I'll be joining in later this evening, if everything goes according to plan. I have 4 Springbank expressions I'll be tasting,

1997 10yo Batch 1 (sample from Jobi)
1997 10yo Batch 2 (sample from C57)
1997 10yo Binny's Cask
10yo OB (sample from UUNetBill)

Many thanks again for the samples everyone. Happy Dramming!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby mikeymad » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:04 pm

Got a lot of stuff going on....

May check back in later... I look forward to the notes.

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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:27 pm

Ok I'm assuming that since we are doing Springbank that anything that comes from the distillery will count. I have a few things here without opening any bottles so I'll start with them. The line up looks like this at the moment:

Campbelltown Loch 30yo blend
Cadenhead's Hazelburn 7yo
Springbank 15yo OB (2004)
Cadenhead's Springbank 11yo
Mike Ralston's Springbank 7yo
Springbank 1997 cask 789 OB
Springbank 1997 batch #2 OB (not open yet, but its getting it anyway)
Springbank 40yo Millenium Edition

There's a serious lack of OBs here but I don't have much open. Might open more later if need be.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:29 pm

Evening gents. Good to see you all. :D
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:04 pm

Lets see if the tasting note bugs have been worked out.

Old blend

Campbeltown Loch
30yo
Mmm, the old grain is evident on the nose. Lots of soft toffee. Vanilla and Madiera cake. The malt is there too though. Porridge and faint hints of grist in amongst the tangerines and stewed apples. There's a hint of earthy peat about it too. I'd guess it has a higher grain content than some of the younger Campbelltown loch bottlings, but it smells lovely nonetheless. Beautifully clean with no sulphur or feintiness about it at all.
The malt comes through stronger on the palate, but the taste is much thinner than the nose. Not much sign of the grain here at all. The fruit is good but the strength is too low imo. It seems to have taken the edge off it.
Wow! What an inrush of woodspice. There's stewed rhubarb and a load of spices that work beautifully together. Enough juicy malt to keep the wood from drying the mouth.
This is great stuff, only let down by the slightly thin middle. Marvelous value at the price.
mid gold
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30 Years Old
0
40%
Springbank

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Campbeltown
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:05 pm

Collector57 wrote:Hmmm, nobody else out there for this tasting?

Yeah sorry Nick I was taking my time over that one.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby DanAir » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:19 pm

I had plenty of friends over last night and I popped open the Springbank 10yo OB I just picked up at Waitrose. Half the bottle went, and given that my friends aren't particularly "enthusiastic" drinkers I'll take that as a sign that it was enjoyed!

I'm afraid that it's my only Springbank. My first actually (besides a Longrow CV), but almost certainly not my last...

Springbank 10yo OB

Nose: Deeply flavoured with loads of honey, orange, some salty coastal flavours. A touch of spice (cloves). A minute or two after pouring the spice has gone leaving full-on sweet aromas of honey and a touch of citrus.

Palate: Very clean. Oily texture. Not so much honey surprisingly. More spice. A touch of dusty smoke. Very enjoyable depth.

Finish: Returning sweetness, golden syrup, citrus and a touch of oak.

Score: 4/5
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby DanAir » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:22 pm

Sorry... how rude of me! Hi Willie, Nick and anyone else currently watching! :thumbsup:
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:33 pm

Hazelburn 7yo

Cadenhead's
Authentic Collection
The youth is evident on the nose. Lovely malty cereal notes., vanillins from the wood, but feinty notes like yeast and green tobacco.
funny the wood is up front here. Bright cinammon and vanilla, sparlkes on the palate.
Leaps around the tongue dusting it with pepper and cardomum.
This is a vatting of four small casks and the smaller casks have cleary aged the whisky faster. It doesn't show on the nose but the taste is heavily woody. Very interesting.
mid gold
0

7 Years Old
2001
49.4%
Cadenhead

Single Malt
Campbeltown
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:35 pm

Hi Dan. Good to see you.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:38 pm

Collector57 wrote:Swimming pools on the attack

Sounds like a 50's sci-fi movie Nick.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:44 pm

Ah the 21yo! Somewhere I've got that sample you sent me Nick. I must find it after this.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:54 pm

Good evening :) Seems pretty quiet so far. Tasting notes look good with the new layout :thumbsup:
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:05 pm

Got a bit confused then... I get you now - you mean the profiling that makes that wheel thing? Pssst, I tell you a secret - I don't like that bit of the notes anyway ;)
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:22 pm

Springbank 15yo, but not really

Springbank
OB
Huge oloroso sherry influence. Slightly musty, but huge rich dark bitter marmalade takes over and delights the senses.
The marmalade is super strong on the palate too. Lots of wood here though, but the spice is working beautifully with the whole. This is much older than it says on the bottle, but that makes sense because the distillery was closed from 81-89. I reckon this has to be from before that closure so it is possibly 23 or more. It is stunning.
Deeply bitter oranges that deliver for ever. God this is amazing.
Springbank of the highest quality. I wish I had more than a sample of this. Brilliant!
Mahogany
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15 Years Old
0
46%
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Single Malt
Campbeltown
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2004 bottling

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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:31 pm

I'd love to join in but I have no Springbank :( Is Longrow to far a distant relative to open here?
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby TreacleSponge » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:44 pm

Great C57 :thumbsup:

Willie, why's your 15yo not really Springbank 15yo?
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:50 pm

Springbank 21yo

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Oh just magic. Lots in common with that elderly 15, but this is much more subtle. I think its that coconut note that really sets this dram apart for me. The wood is there but its dry and clean. Dusty, rather than musty. The oranges are dark, but not as dark as the 15yo and certainly lacking that huge bitterness. And the coconut goes on and on with just a dash of vanilla on it.
Beautiful sweet-bitter orange, then coconut, then woodspice, but the spice is gentle and lingering and subtly integrated with the fruits.
And there at the end comes that huge juicy mouth-watering malt. Stunning! I can never find a damn thing wrong with this dram. It is simply perfect for me.
Why oh why didn't I buy a couple of cases of ths when it was only £45 a bottle? Sigh.
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21 Years Old
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46%
Springbank

Single Malt
Campbeltown
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:58 pm

Collector57 wrote:Because 15 years prior to the time he bought it, the distillery was closed, so it must be oler and bottled as 15 for the sake of maintaining the core expression.


Thanks for that explanation Nick. I'm very reliably informed that the bottling was made from older stock from before the closure. the thing is it may be older than the 21yo but it is not better. It has more power but less subtlety and lacks the wonderful coconut that appears in the 21yo.

TreacleSponge wrote:I'd love to join in but I have no Springbank :( Is Longrow to far a distant relative to open here?


Treacle I agree with Nick. If it comes from the distillery then it qualifies. That's why I did the Campbelltown Loch and the Hazelburn.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby TreacleSponge » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:02 am

OK, here goes, it's the only Longrow I've tried...

Longrow CV

Longrow
CV
Immediately massively earthy, and quite meaty. Lots of peat. Smells very serious, there's to be no giggling over this one. Eventually a very faint waft of sweet perfume, like clean washing drying on the line.
Medicinal peat, a little like that stuff they give you to clean your earlobes when you get your ears pierced. Vegetal, almost composting. Not quite seaweedy, but maybe stones on a beach. Then a little pepper.
TCP but a bit sweeter, salt. Maintains that in-your-face strength of flavour.
Strong and peaty. Is this quite young? There's no clue to the age. I like it, but it's got a very definite mood to it. There's something very stern about this, it's not a frivolous dram, is it? Like a person who's been promoted beyond their ability, it doesn't want to let down it's guard, it must behave sensiblly. Maybe I should stop projecting personalities onto my drinks :)
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0 Years Old
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46%%
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Single Malt
Scotland
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby TreacleSponge » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:17 am

C57 your Longrow 10yo sounds like the CV's kinder, older sister. My bottle kind of clenches its fist and glares at me. Tho it's loosening up a little now it's been poured a while :)

Both your & Willie's notes for your Springbank 21 enticed me to look for one online. And then when I saw the price I decide to content myself with reading free notes instead :o :)
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:24 am

Ha ha great note Treacle. :thumbsup:

Sadly the Springer 21 has gone into he realms of the unaffordable these days. :(
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby TreacleSponge » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:33 am

It's been fun, and educational, as always :thumbsup: I have to go, but I look forward to catching up tomorrow. G'night :)
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:01 am

Good evening,
Forgot about this event maybe because of drinking too much Killkenny and quiet a few Caoran Reserves last night. We visited an Irish pub in Leiden.

Just opened a 15yo.
A very gentle whisky full of peardrops and vanilla in the beginning. I don't notice any sherry in this one, maybe because I had a vintage 1997 #1 which has a strong sherry influence
Taste is malty without the oily taste that I like in the 10 and also the vin2007.
Nose is getting better and better. Less sweet now, butterscotch and some toffee.
More grass now and mouthfeel and nose are getting drier.

comment:
I'm not too excited about this one yet particularly because of the lack of oilynes that I liked in other Springbanks.
As I am writing this and sipping the glass empty way too quick I realise it is just not what I expected but I'm starting too like it now the malty notes are taking over from the vanilla and pear.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:02 am

Cadenhead's Springbank 11yo

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A more youthful slightly feinty Sprinbank here. Like a digestive biscuit with butter and jam. Loads of citrus too.
stewed citrus fruits but without a lot of added sugar. maybe rhubarb. hint of sulphur but very minor.
Wonderful finish. Keeps on going. no trace of the feints here.
Great fun dram. Lacks the class of the older Springers but definitely worth drinking.
russet/tawny
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0 Years Old
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56.3%
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:05 am

Night Nick. Good to see you. :D

Hi Ras. Good to see you. :D
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:11 am

Ras I find the 15 to be addictive. i don't have an open one at the moment but I love it.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Ras Mazunga » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:47 am

Addictive it is! I poured my third already.
My nose is finally picking up the peat. I'm liking this more and more.
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Re: Springbank - 29th November - 7pm (GMT)

Postby Willie JJ » Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:11 am

I have a couple more but I think I'll come back to them with fresher palate, because at least one of them deserves it.

Night Ras
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