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Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby MarkV » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:07 pm

I just opened a bottle of Benromach 1999 (bottled for Binnys, god bless 'em). Nice color, aroma, etc. I added a little water and it went very cloudy. At first I thought it was the water I used, so I tried again using bottled water, but still it turned to a very ugly, cloudy look. It looks like you're drinking disgusting well water. I've never had this happen before, so is it just the brand, or so certain whiskey's do this?
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby jmrl » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:37 pm

If malts don't do this you've probably been short changed. Google 'chill-filtering' for a full explanation. I don't do chemistry. DON'T throw away the dram meantime!

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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby MacDeffe » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:12 pm

It's a sign of quality !

Some components in whisky solidify below 46% alcohol

some people in marketing invented chillfiltering to filter those out, which isn't good as it might be the tasty stuff :-)

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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby MarkV » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:35 pm

MacDeffe wrote:It's a sign of quality !

Some components in whisky solidify below 46% alcohol

some people in marketing invented chillfiltering to filter those out, which isn't good as it might be the tasty stuff :-)

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I'll be darned. I looked it up and sure enough, you're right. Keeping the dram looking like sewer water is supposed to be a good thing. Hummm... I think I'll take chillfiltering because it's hard to appreciate your drink when you expect a fish to come jumping out. Or, maybe I should just get a dark glass! Thanks for replying. Cheers
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby MacDeffe » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:48 pm

Most non chillfiltered whiskies takes some (or a lot) water before going cloudy, I rarely experience it (I dont add a lot of water thou , if any)

Also make sure your malt isnt cold

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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby Deactivated Member » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:10 pm

MarkV wrote:Hummm... I think I'll take chillfiltering because it's hard to appreciate your drink when you expect a fish to come jumping out.

And here we all are trying to get them to stop....
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby Willie JJ » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:56 pm

Yes for goodness sake Mark don't throw the whisky away, learn to like it a little cloudy, or even better, throw the bloody water away and learn to drink the whisky by sipping it. In the long run you will appreciate all the more.
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby mikeymad » Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:03 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Yes for goodness sake Mark don't throw the whisky away, learn to like it a little cloudy, or even better, throw the bloody water away and learn to drink the whisky by sipping it. In the long run you will appreciate all the more.


^^ what he said... :thumbsup:
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby MarkV » Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:07 pm

Willie JJ wrote:Yes for goodness sake Mark don't throw the whisky away, learn to like it a little cloudy, or even better, throw the bloody water away and learn to drink the whisky by sipping it. In the long run you will appreciate all the more.


No, I didn't toss it. I drank it and it was fine. It just looked odd.
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby The Third Dram » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:11 am

Better the whisky's cloudy rather than your vision. :wink:
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby upright » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:18 pm

The Third Dram wrote:Better the whisky's cloudy rather than your vision. :wink:

Rather harsh but i tend to agree.
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby jmrl » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:10 pm

Phew. I thought there was something up with my water. Every time I put whisky in it, it went cloudy. Tasted better though.
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby Deactivated Member » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:29 am

Just out of curiosity, MarkV, was the water you used chilled?
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby LagaDrinker » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:47 am

Would warming them both before hand stop the cloudiness then Mr T? Not that I mind it at all just curious
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby borgom » Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:27 pm

MarkV try not to worry about a whisky going cloudy. Some independant bottlings are cloudy from the start, Bruichladdich whiskies often have sediment and some cask strength whiskies even have little bits of cork or cask in them.
It's up to you of course but you'll miss out on some fantastic whiskies if you're constantly avoiding these sorts of issues.
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby MarkV » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:52 pm

MrTattieHeid wrote:Just out of curiosity, MarkV, was the water you used chilled?

The tap water was lukewarm. The bottled water was chilled. Now, in the interest of science, I need to replicate my experience. Twice with chilled tap and bottled water, and twice with room temperature tap and bottled water. All in the name of discovery, of course. I'll make my report after I recover my brain. :D
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby MarkV » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:31 am

Okay, I ran my little experiment. I found no discernable difference between level of cloudiness whether it was tap or bottled water, cold or room temperature. I couldn't tell any taste difference either. It was a tough job, but somebody had to do it for humanity's sake. :wink:
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby Deactivated Member » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:50 am

Your selfless sacrifice is duly noted. Thanks, I was just curious...another tidbit filed away for future reference.
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby Ganga » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:39 am

Mark it looks like you fit in just fine. We all do these experiments...in the name of science of course. :)
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Re: Whiskey+water=cloudy?

Postby Klas » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:43 pm

MarkV wrote:It was a tough job, but somebody had to do it for humanity's sake.

Hahaha...Way to go MarkV! :D :thumbsup:
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