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What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Alewishus » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:19 am

Was just strollin' thru the local L.C. casually checking out prices when I noticed that the Ardbeg 10 which sold for about $60 Canadian was now priced at $92 and change! :shock:

A.

This is also before a hefty 12% tax.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby The Third Dram » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:28 pm

Yep.

The 10YO, until recently, ran in the CDN$61-63 range here in Quebec through the SAQ. And this was a veritable bargain when compared to the hefty close to CDN$100 price listed by the LCBO in Ontario. However, the local listing is now tagged at CDN$77.75, and bottles are currently scarce (only 2, apparently, in the province at this moment). Not sure whether this is a strictly a Canadian phenomenon, a North American one or if it is driven by increased supplier/distributor prices.

Yet another argument for nabbing personal favourites when they're available for reasonable asking prices, as one just never knows what will transpire down the road.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby jimidrammer » Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:37 pm

The Ten has been going up about $8-$10US each year in most parts of the US the last 3 or 4 years, now about $65-$75, just under prices for Uigeadail or Lagavulin 16yo. I happened across a store the other day that had it at an old price of $45US and once I confirmed the price was correct in their system I snatched all 5 bottles. The guy even gave me a case discount so I walked out with 5 for $199 or $39.80 each +tax. After I wiped the dust from them I noticed they are all from 2006 and I only had one L6 left.

Other bottles I've noticed that are taking a dramatic turn upwards are Balvenie(15yo SB,17yo LE, 21yo PW), older Glenlivet's(21 & 25), and Glenmorangie(18yo, 25yo). All these at 30%-50% even 100% increases. Newer releases like the Glenmorangie Signet and Glenrothes '75 vintage are even worse. It's like a race to catch up to Macallan where they'll collect dust also.

I'm kind of expecting the industry in general to further open a market for NAS entry-level bottles for most single malts. Age statement bottles are more and more premium priced, even 10-12yo. That $30-40US price point is a hard hurdle to cross for a lot of average consumers. I know I'm weighing the purchases more these days when income is flat, but prices seem to rise exponentially.

At least this time of year brings holiday sales and some nifty gift sets. :thumbsup:
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Muskrat Portage » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:34 am

It's now $99.95 in Ontario. The pricing at the LCBO includes taxes.
The same bottle, before taxes is $92.81 in Manitoba. Alewishus, scoop it up while you can at $92 and change.

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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Novice Scotch Fan » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:12 am

Did Diaego buy the brand? Just joking. Where I live, New Brunswick, Oban now costs $98! As much as I like, its not worth that price.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby kallaskander » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:06 pm

Hi there

that is only 24 € more than it costs in Germany.

if I get the exchange rate right that is 38 CDN $.

And Diageo has not bought Moet Hennessy - yet!

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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Ganga » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:57 pm

Glenmorangie 18 sells at or above Macallan 18 out here. Guess which one I choose!

As stated, Ardbeg 10 prices have been escalating in the US. In 2007 I could get it for $39; now it's $56. It will be very interesting to see what happens when the new Ten finally arrives here.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby pmullin » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:47 pm

Ardbeg is owned by LVMH, just like Glenmorangie, so I imagine that the steep price hikes are part of the same overall "premiumization" policy, except that with Ardbeg they didn't bother with the fancy new bottles and newfangled names.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Alewishus » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:58 pm

With x-mas approaching Musky, I just can't afford it.
My wife picked up the last bottle of Glenfarclas 17 here in Manitoba; it's for x-mas and was a good price.
She says I can pick up a copy of Whiskey and Philosophy, but that's it...kids are next.

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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby anationonfire » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:50 am

Still $70 here in Alberta, I remember when it was $49.99 not to long ago.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby talisker10 » Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:12 pm

Here in Texas:

Ardbeg 10: $65
Ardbeg Uigeadail: $83
Ardbeg Corryvrenkan: $93
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Drammed » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:47 pm

BC Ardbeg- in CAD

10 yr - $94
Nam Beist - $125
Uige - $134
Corry - $146


In Washington State, just 20 minutes south of me - A10 = $49.95 usd

I purchased 8 last time i was down. I would have bought more but it was all they had.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Drammed » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:41 pm

Collector57 wrote:
Drammed wrote:BC Ardbeg- in CAD

10 yr - $94
Nam Beist - $125
Uige - $134
Corry - $146


In Washington State, just 20 minutes south of me - A10 = $49.95 usd

I purchased 8 last time i was down. I would have bought more but it was all they had.

What's the USD to CAD FX rate?


currently .95 multiply cad x .95 to get the price in usd.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Ganga » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:13 pm

Nick,

I've noticed that higher end whiskies are less expensive in the UK but the lower end are much cheaper in the US.

Check the price of Glenmorangie 25 in the UK and compare it to $800 + in the US. But then I can get the Laphroaig 10 for $28. While there may be anomalies, I think this represents a good measure in the differences between the two markets.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby ClubSmed » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:37 pm

Collector57 wrote:Maybe Rich, but I can tell you it would be significantly cheaper, if these frums are anything to go by, to buy a Laphroaig 30 in the US and shipped here (except that they won't do it).

How much is a Laphroaig 30 in the USA?
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby ClubSmed » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:46 pm

Collector57 wrote:Not sure but a few months ago US guys were saying $240 or less, At the time it was £400+ here. (I know that!...)

That is a disturbing difference!
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby scotchdrinker » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:12 am

ClubSmed wrote:
Collector57 wrote:Not sure but a few months ago US guys were saying $240 or less, At the time it was £400+ here. (I know that!...)

That is a disturbing difference!


I just looked online and it is as low as $220 in the states.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Ganga » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:58 am

It's pretty much $400 here now. I've seen it close to $500 at a place I could have gotten it for $300 last year. But let me ask you this on the Laphroaig 30, what did it sell for before it was discontinued?
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby mithril » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:14 am

Novice Scotch Fan wrote:Did Diaego buy the brand? Just joking. Where I live, New Brunswick, Oban now costs $98! As much as I like, its not worth that price.


Nope, Ardbeg is owned by Glenmorangie who in turn is owned by the Louis Vuitton-Moet-Hennessy company. LVMH bought Glenmorangie a few years back with the entire goal of taking the brand much more upmarket, the price increases across the entire Ardbeg line is in keeping with that.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Willie JJ » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:13 pm

scotchdrinker wrote:
ClubSmed wrote:
Collector57 wrote:Not sure but a few months ago US guys were saying $240 or less, At the time it was £400+ here. (I know that!...)

That is a disturbing difference!


I just looked online and it is as low as $220 in the states.

If you can get someone to send it to you then it can be worth it especially as its a 75cl bottle. The last couple of things I had come in from the US both got stopped at customs and they levied duty and the carrier put on an admin charge too. That can make quite a difference but there is still substantial money to be saved on this one.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby charlano » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:37 pm

Drammed wrote:BC Ardbeg- in CAD
In Washington State, just 20 minutes south of me - A10 = $49.95 usd

I purchased 8 last time i was down. I would have bought more but it was all they had.


How did you do that ? You can't bring more than 1,14l of spirit back to Canada without having spent at least 48 hours. Did you pay the taxes (which are about 115% (yes 115% :shock: ) when brought back to Canada) or you just didn't declare to the custom agent ?

I manage to spend my vacation to the US partly due to that fact. A visit to a duty free is a blessing. I can bring out 2 1l bottles (my girlfriend don't drink :) )
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Bulkington » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:56 pm

Collector57 wrote:Not sure but a few months ago US guys were saying $240 or less, At the time it was £400+ here. (I know that!...)


It's interesting to note that the Laphroaig 30s on sale at The Whisky Exchange are 750 ml bottles. Seems to me that some US caches must have been raided. :x

If I could find Laphroaig 30s in NYC for under $250 I'd snatch them up in a heartbeat.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Bulkington » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:57 pm

Bulkington wrote:
Collector57 wrote:Not sure but a few months ago US guys were saying $240 or less, At the time it was £400+ here. (I know that!...)


It's interesting to note that the Laphroaig 30s on sale at The Whisky Exchange are 750 ml bottles. Seems to me that some US caches must have been raided. :x

If I could find Laphroaig 30s in NYC for under $250 I'd snatch them up in a heartbeat.


If any US posters can direct me to a liquor store in their states that have Laphroaig 30 and ship, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby scotchdrinker » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:00 pm

Bulkington wrote:
Bulkington wrote:
Collector57 wrote:Not sure but a few months ago US guys were saying $240 or less, At the time it was £400+ here. (I know that!...)


It's interesting to note that the Laphroaig 30s on sale at The Whisky Exchange are 750 ml bottles. Seems to me that some US caches must have been raided. :x

If I could find Laphroaig 30s in NYC for under $250 I'd snatch them up in a heartbeat.


If any US posters can direct me to a liquor store in their states that have Laphroaig 30 and ship, it would be greatly appreciated.


here is on for you $230 in Manhattan: hope this works out.

http://www.ehrlichwines.com/wst_page2.html
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Drammed » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:46 pm

charlano wrote:
Drammed wrote:BC Ardbeg- in CAD
In Washington State, just 20 minutes south of me - A10 = $49.95 usd

I purchased 8 last time i was down. I would have bought more but it was all they had.


How did you do that ? You can't bring more than 1,14l of spirit back to Canada without having spent at least 48 hours. Did you pay the taxes (which are about 115% (yes 115% :shock: ) when brought back to Canada) or you just didn't declare to the custom agent ?

I manage to spend my vacation to the US partly due to that fact. A visit to a duty free is a blessing. I can bring out 2 1l bottles (my girlfriend don't drink :) )


with your GF's exemption you can bring back 3 bottles. you are allowed 1.14 liters each and it does not say how many bottles it has to be in. 1.14 x 2 = 2.28. 750 x 3 = 2.25 so you can bring back 3 bottles of 750!

anyway i bought 8 and brought back 3. the other 5 are in my place near seattle waiting to be brought back on later trips.

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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Bulkington » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:52 pm

I'll have to give Ehrlich's a call. I've been in there many times since I stopped seeing Laphroaig 30 in NYC, and was in as recently as a few weeks ago, and no Laphroaig 30 that I saw. Hmm....
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Bulkington » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:59 pm

Bulkington wrote:I'll have to give Ehrlich's a call. I've been in there many times since I stopped seeing Laphroaig 30 in NYC, and was in as recently as a few weeks ago, and no Laphroaig 30 that I saw. Hmm....


Just as I suspected. :cry:
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby scotchdrinker » Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:28 pm

Bulkington wrote:
Bulkington wrote:I'll have to give Ehrlich's a call. I've been in there many times since I stopped seeing Laphroaig 30 in NYC, and was in as recently as a few weeks ago, and no Laphroaig 30 that I saw. Hmm....


Just as I suspected. :cry:


I am sorry to hear that.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby Knolly » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:15 am

Ganga wrote:It's pretty much $400 here now. I've seen it close to $500 at a place I could have gotten it for $300 last year. But let me ask you this on the Laphroaig 30, what did it sell for before it was discontinued?


Crazy eh? I saw a bottle at Lee's in Las Vegas a couple of months ago for $599 and last year they were about $240!
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby bcrossan » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:26 pm

I found the A10 for $49 at a local shop. They said that was the price the distributor gave them. Not sure how long this will last or how wide spread it is in the US.
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby charlano » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:40 pm

Drammed wrote:
charlano wrote:with your GF's exemption you can bring back 3 bottles. you are allowed 1.14 liters each and it does not say how many bottles it has to be in. 1.14 x 2 = 2.28. 750 x 3 = 2.25 so you can bring back 3 bottles of 750!

anyway i bought 8 and brought back 3. the other 5 are in my place near seattle waiting to be brought back on later trips.

Cheers


Ok now I understad :D
That is what I do everytime :angel:
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Re: What just happened?!?! Ardbeg 10

Postby OMGUI » Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:41 pm

I knew the ardbeg 10yr would skyrocket here in Manitoba
when we still had the old L8's, I got 10 bottles at 60$ +
tax to put away, guess I saved over 300$. Don't know if I
will purchase at over 90$, it's pretty expensive. I will prob
switch to laphroaig quarter cask once I am through with my
10 bottles.
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