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Lagavulin Cask Strength 12 Y.O.

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Lagavulin Cask Strength 12 Y.O.

Postby Ize » Mon Dec 02, 2002 8:40 am

Anyone tasted cask strenght Lagavulin yet? Anyway, pricing for this seems quite ridiculous which is in my netstore ~75€. :-/

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Lagavulin Cask Strength 12 Y.O.

Postby Ize » Mon Dec 02, 2002 8:40 am

Anyone tasted cask strenght Lagavulin yet? Anyway, pricing for this seems quite ridiculous which is in my netstore ~75€. :-/

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Postby lexkraai » Mon Dec 02, 2002 10:15 am

Hi Ize

Yes, I had a wee taste of the new C.S. 12 y.o. at the Whisky Festival in The Hague. Very nice intense Lagavulin, but whether it's worth the price for a bottle, I'm not so sure ....

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Postby lexkraai » Mon Dec 02, 2002 10:15 am

Hi Ize

Yes, I had a wee taste of the new C.S. 12 y.o. at the Whisky Festival in The Hague. Very nice intense Lagavulin, but whether it's worth the price for a bottle, I'm not so sure ....

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Postby Deactivated Member » Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:22 pm

Ize,

I agree with Lex, I wouldnt pay so much money for a 12Y old CS lagavulin, if you realize that the regular 16Y old is cheaper then that. Although the whisky is nice.

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Postby Deactivated Member » Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:22 pm

Ize,

I agree with Lex, I wouldnt pay so much money for a 12Y old CS lagavulin, if you realize that the regular 16Y old is cheaper then that. Although the whisky is nice.

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Postby Ize » Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:07 am

Heh, even the Pedro Ximenez is cheaper. And in fact, the price was the reason for my question, since you would think that you would get something special with that price tag.

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Postby Ize » Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:07 am

Heh, even the Pedro Ximenez is cheaper. And in fact, the price was the reason for my question, since you would think that you would get something special with that price tag.

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Postby Ileach » Tue Dec 03, 2002 8:47 pm

I tried the 12yo at the Whiskyfestival. IMHO it is not worth it - it just can't keep up with the standard 16 yo.

And at about £40 here in Switzerland, it is a complete rip-off.

Looks like every Laga fan out there is set to add one of these to his collection.

And in 4 years or so, there'll be no more 16yo left ...
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Postby Ileach » Tue Dec 03, 2002 8:47 pm

I tried the 12yo at the Whiskyfestival. IMHO it is not worth it - it just can't keep up with the standard 16 yo.

And at about £40 here in Switzerland, it is a complete rip-off.

Looks like every Laga fan out there is set to add one of these to his collection.

And in 4 years or so, there'll be no more 16yo left ...
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Postby GordonH » Sun Dec 08, 2002 4:53 pm

Hi Guys ,
I've tried the new CS Laga , it's IMO a great whisky ,well worth the money tho if it had been a few quid lower it would have been better! I thought it was so good i nominated it as one of my top three O.B. releases this year together with the Bunnahabhain 1968 and the Bruichladdich 1970.
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Postby GordonH » Sun Dec 08, 2002 4:53 pm

Hi Guys ,
I've tried the new CS Laga , it's IMO a great whisky ,well worth the money tho if it had been a few quid lower it would have been better! I thought it was so good i nominated it as one of my top three O.B. releases this year together with the Bunnahabhain 1968 and the Bruichladdich 1970.
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Postby Nic Rhodes » Mon Dec 16, 2002 9:03 pm

Just my quick take on this new CS 12 year old Lagavulin at 58%. I tracked it down in Oddbins at £45 and bought a bottle. I thought it was quite steep but thought I would give it a go.

Compared it with the standard 16 over the last few days. I rate the 16 as a great whisky at about £30. It is however big and perhaps not my favourite style but I see it’s quality. Everyone knows the Lag 16 with it’s deep colour.

Well, the CS 12 year old is a different kettle of fish. It is very light in colour (like Laphroig) and is a whole new ball game taste wise. It is classy, though definitely Lagavulin, it has that same intensity, complexity and length that 1987 Leapfrog had (Murray McDavid Laphroig and GREAT). It is a class above the 16 year old. For me this is much more the style I am looking for and much more reminiscent of the independent bottlers. £45 is still steep (independents do this for £40 normally) but there is no denying the quality here. I will get more. A pleasant surprize.
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Postby Nic Rhodes » Mon Dec 16, 2002 9:03 pm

Just my quick take on this new CS 12 year old Lagavulin at 58%. I tracked it down in Oddbins at £45 and bought a bottle. I thought it was quite steep but thought I would give it a go.

Compared it with the standard 16 over the last few days. I rate the 16 as a great whisky at about £30. It is however big and perhaps not my favourite style but I see it’s quality. Everyone knows the Lag 16 with it’s deep colour.

Well, the CS 12 year old is a different kettle of fish. It is very light in colour (like Laphroig) and is a whole new ball game taste wise. It is classy, though definitely Lagavulin, it has that same intensity, complexity and length that 1987 Leapfrog had (Murray McDavid Laphroig and GREAT). It is a class above the 16 year old. For me this is much more the style I am looking for and much more reminiscent of the independent bottlers. £45 is still steep (independents do this for £40 normally) but there is no denying the quality here. I will get more. A pleasant surprize.
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Postby Ize » Tue Dec 17, 2002 8:45 am

About the colour of the 16yo, heh, label of my bottle bought from Germany states "mit farbestoff". So Nic, sorry to shatter your image if you didn't know this earlier, it is full of E150 aka burnt sugar aka caramel colour. :-/

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Postby Ize » Tue Dec 17, 2002 8:45 am

About the colour of the 16yo, heh, label of my bottle bought from Germany states "mit farbestoff". So Nic, sorry to shatter your image if you didn't know this earlier, it is full of E150 aka burnt sugar aka caramel colour. :-/

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Postby Nic Rhodes » Wed Dec 18, 2002 10:09 pm

suspected as much
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Postby Nic Rhodes » Wed Dec 18, 2002 10:09 pm

suspected as much
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Postby skywalker » Thu Jan 02, 2003 8:18 pm

Why not try out the Fuaran Ile instead of the original Laga CS 12 ? The Fuaran Ile is affordable and good.
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Postby skywalker » Thu Jan 02, 2003 8:18 pm

Why not try out the Fuaran Ile instead of the original Laga CS 12 ? The Fuaran Ile is affordable and good.
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Postby Admiral » Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:31 am

I suspect the retail price of the CS 12yo is governed more by excise & taxes rather than by the owners putting a fancy premium on it.

Here in Australia, imported liquor is taxed according to the alcohol percentage....i.e. the higher the ABV or proof, the higher the tax that is applied. This higher tax is then passed on to the consumer via the hike in retail price.
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Postby Admiral » Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:31 am

I suspect the retail price of the CS 12yo is governed more by excise & taxes rather than by the owners putting a fancy premium on it.

Here in Australia, imported liquor is taxed according to the alcohol percentage....i.e. the higher the ABV or proof, the higher the tax that is applied. This higher tax is then passed on to the consumer via the hike in retail price.
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Postby Ize » Wed Jan 22, 2003 10:55 am

Admiral, your comment is somewhat true, but still there is extra gap in the price when looking Lagavulin.

Laphroaig 10yo at 43% in 1l bottle I can get with ~33€ and 57,3% in 1l bottle is ~50€. When Lagavulin 16yo at 43% 0.7l is 36€ and CS 12yo 0.7l is 75€. There is almost 25€ extra cost in Lagavulin price which comes, I believe, from small batch size.

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Postby Ize » Wed Jan 22, 2003 10:55 am

Admiral, your comment is somewhat true, but still there is extra gap in the price when looking Lagavulin.

Laphroaig 10yo at 43% in 1l bottle I can get with ~33€ and 57,3% in 1l bottle is ~50€. When Lagavulin 16yo at 43% 0.7l is 36€ and CS 12yo 0.7l is 75€. There is almost 25€ extra cost in Lagavulin price which comes, I believe, from small batch size.

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Postby MacAndersson » Wed Jan 22, 2003 4:28 pm

I can’t say that I find the new 12YO worth the extra money. The standard 16YO is “good enough” and in order for me to pay the extra money I must feel that I get something extra for it, which I feel I don’t. IMO the 16YO being sold now is the best standard whisky available. At 50ppm and no purifier it’s way more peaty the Ardbeg even though on paper they should be the same. Even at standard level of 35ppm it’s almost as peaty as Ardbeg. So my advise if you like LG: Stock up on the 16YO before the 35ppm will return in a couple of years.
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Postby MacAndersson » Wed Jan 22, 2003 4:28 pm

I can’t say that I find the new 12YO worth the extra money. The standard 16YO is “good enough” and in order for me to pay the extra money I must feel that I get something extra for it, which I feel I don’t. IMO the 16YO being sold now is the best standard whisky available. At 50ppm and no purifier it’s way more peaty the Ardbeg even though on paper they should be the same. Even at standard level of 35ppm it’s almost as peaty as Ardbeg. So my advise if you like LG: Stock up on the 16YO before the 35ppm will return in a couple of years.
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