I'm not terribly experienced with Rye and looking to try a new one or two. However, I am also on a budget. So I'm wondering what people have for suggestions. I've tried Old Overholt, Jim Beam Rye, and Rittenhouse (40%). I can't afford Sazerac or Old Rip Van Winkle. How is Wild Turkey's Rye? (Can't find Pikesville Supreme or Rittenhouse 50%, btw) Any other suggestions?
DaveM wrote:Wild Turkey Rye is above average value. Very good IMHO.
Agreed. And don't pass up Rittenhouse 10yo 100-proof if you see it. It mostly goes to Europe -- the bottle I currently have is 70cl, gotten from a friend who works on Heaven Hill's bottling line.
And, I believe some of the Van Winkles -- e.g., the 12yo Old Time Rye and 13yo Family Reserve rye, as well as a "1985" vintage bottling -- are available overseas, too. Any Van Winkle, rye or bourbon, is memorable.
I think the 40% Rittenhouse is fairly good. Pretty smooth with some nice little rye prickles, hints of peppermint and cinnamon spice. I think it could benefit from being a bit stronger, which is why I would like to find a bottle of the 50%. Maybe I'll just have to try the Turkey instead.
Anybody tried Old Portrero? Reviews sound fantastic
Are you sure you don't mean Old Protrero? I that is 100% Malted Rye. I don't recall hearing that the Sazerac was 100% rye malted or otherwise. Jim Murray has a section on single malt ryes in his latest book and it is all Old Protrero expressions.
Cant say i am very experienced with Rye, but last month i tried a Sazerac 18Y old and was litterally stunned. Usually Bourbon and Rye doesnt rate very high to me, yet i keep trying new ones whenever i can, but this Sazerac is fantastic. To me this is as good as it gets if we are not talking about scotch whisky. Rated it 91 i believe. Its also the only Rye/bourbon i would actually buy for myself.
It is Old Potrero that is 100% malted rye. Actually, the other ryes, as a group, are probably closer to the legal minimum for 'straight' rye -- 51% -- than most 'straight' bourbons are corn. Most bourbons are between 70% and 80% corn although they only need to be 51%. Most ryes that I know of are under 70% rye.
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Well, yes, I certainly knew Old Protrero was a 100% malted rye, and I intended it to be included in my collective description of "beasts like the sazerac", but it seems I had sazerac in the wrong category anyway!
I haven't tried any Sazerac yet, but, knowing that it is esteemed and regarded so highly, I probably stupidly assumed it was in the same category as the Old Protrero.
Perhaps not surprisingly, since I'm partial to bourbons, I'm not that fond of Sazerac. It's not terribly complex for all those years. I very much enjoy the Van Winkle rye, however.
The Saz makes a very nice mixed drink, such a Manhattan -- but it's kind of pricey for that.
If we were to parse it out in more detail, whiskey might mean: Any old distilled beverage that called itself whiskey and Rye might be the real deal. Remember that Rye was the most popular whiskey expression in the States before prohibition.