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Ranking Glenfarclae

Postby bamber » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:23 am

This one got me thinking as I've tried the full run (only a single of the 30yo though):

andrewfenton wrote:Finished a 200ml bottle of Glenfarclas 15. Now tried everything from 10 to 30, and this is possibly my preferred after the (horribly expensive) 30. It isn't the most complex of the lot, but for this style of rich sherry complexity isn't what I'm looking for. Very, very tasty.


Personally I'd rank them:

1== 21yo (slight edge to the 21yo), 15yo
2 25yo
3 30yo
4 10yo
5 12yo (I cannot get on with this one - the sherry has a bitter off note in the bottle I have - Is that possible ?).
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Postby Frodo » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:38 am

Really curious about this thread. Never had a 'farclas but have x2 unopened ones...
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Postby Lawrence » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:57 pm

Bamber, I think I'd rate them in the following order;

105
12
30
40
25
21
15
10
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Postby SpiritofShetland » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:48 pm

Only had the 105 and 10yo myself.

The 105 is marvelous, but the 10yo is somewhat too plain for me.
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Postby bamber » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:14 pm

Lawrence wrote:Bamber, I think I'd rate them in the following order;

105
12
30
40
25
21
15
10


Almost the inverse of me :) I forgot the 105, but it's right down there with the 12yo for me.... Takes all sorts.
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Postby Brian » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:02 pm

I think I would have to say my top three are the 17, 105, and the '68 vintage. I think the 17 is only in the US but I would definitely rate it above the 15. The extra 2 years round out the flavor and definitely improve it (not to take anything away from the 15).
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Postby andrewfenton » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:08 pm

You can get the 17 the UK as well, although it's not that widespread. Quite nice, but it's overpriced (same price as the 21).
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Postby BruceCrichton » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:09 pm

SpiritofShetland wrote:Only had the 105 and 10yo myself.

The 105 is marvelous, but the 10yo is somewhat too plain for me.


There are miniature packs available with 10,15 and 105 available.

The 10 is average but the 15 yr old is excellent and great stuff at 46%. The dominant taste, for me, was one of cake icing.
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Postby Brian » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:41 pm

You can get the 17 the UK as well, although it's not that widespread. Quite nice, but it's overpriced (same price as the 21).


Here there is a $20-30 price difference between the 17 and 21.
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Postby andrewfenton » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:12 pm

Weird, I wonder if that's because the 17 is overpriced, or the 21 underpriced. Prices here are:

10yr £20 ($37)
105/15yr £31 ($57)
17yr/21yr £38 ($70)
25yr £65ish ($120)
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Re: Ranking Glenfarclae

Postby bernstein » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:54 pm

bamber wrote:12yo (I cannot get on with this one - the sherry has a bitter off note in the bottle I have - Is that possible ?).

Yeah, bamber, I thought the same about the 12yo- I tried to describe this phenomenon as "harsh" - not the most pleasant dram I've had.
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Postby Lawrence » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:02 pm

To be fair, I only dropped the 30 and 40 because of the price. I have to presume that I ranked the Glenfarclas range the way i did is because I'm an unashamed butt head, I really like sherry matured whiskies.

The 17 is available in Canada also.
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Re: Ranking Glenfarclae

Postby jimidrammer » Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:23 am

bernstein wrote:
bamber wrote:12yo (I cannot get on with this one - the sherry has a bitter off note in the bottle I have - Is that possible ?).

Yeah, bamber, I thought the same about the 12yo- I tried to describe this phenomenon as "harsh" - not the most pleasant dram I've had.


I'll third that opinion about the 12, it was just not integrated well. For me it's the 105 and then the 17 and that rounds out the three I've tried, but everyone makes the 21 seem tempting.
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Postby Admiral » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:31 am

1. Glenfarclas 1980 single cask (an OB bottled specially for the Australian Malt Whisky Convention).

2. Glenfarclas 15

3. Glenfarclas 1974 (the new release, not the old)

4. Glenfarclas 1994 Single Cask (a recently released OB)

5. Glenfarclas 21

6. Glenfarclas 30

7. Glenfarclas 105

8. Glenfarclas 10

9. Glenfarclas 12
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Postby bamber » Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:32 am

bernstein,
I found it harsh too. I've shared the bottle with quite a few non whisky drinkers in my office and there have been some screwed up faces over it - not that that necessarily proves anything.

To me the 12yo and 105 are pretty similar in so far as they are not just massively sherried, but that the sherry has a raw edge to it.

Lawrence,
if you've not tried the SMWS Ardbeg, you, must get some because the sherry really reminded me of the 12yo.
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Postby Aidan » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:16 am

That's interesting - is glenfarclae the plural of glenfarclas? :D

I had a 15 yr old recently and it was quite nice, but not outstanding, for me.
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Postby bamber » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:55 am

I was trying to do pseudo-latin. Now I think about it it should be Glenfarcli anyway :)
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Postby Tom » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:55 pm

Ok here goes. Unfortunatly I did not have the pleasure to taste the 40Y yet. but then again it is relatively new and a chance will arise sooner or later.
Glenfarclas 21 93
Glenfarclas 1971 Christmas edition 92
Glenfarclas 1990 For Belgium 91
Glenfarclas 1968 Rare Old Stock Reserve 91
Glenfarclas 1980 Christmas Malt 90
Glenfarclas 1991 89
Glenfarclas 1968 For Friends 1 89
Glenfarclas 1989 Dark oloroso 88
Glenfarclas 1973 Single Cask 88
Glenfarclas 30 88
Glenfarclas 105 88
Glenfarclas 15 87
Glenfarclas 17 87
Glenfarclas 1969 Sherry Cask vintage Selection 86
Glenfarclas 1971 Cask Strength Vintage Selection 86
Glenfarclas 12 86
Glenfarclas 25 85
Glenfarclas 10 85
Glenfarclas 1994 Copernicker Whisky Herbst Berlin 84
Glenfarclas 1985 Cask Strength Vintage Selection 82
Glenfarclas 8 76

Thats about it I think.
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Postby bamber » Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:21 am

Nice selection :) Looks like you're pretty partial to all of them. Did you notice any trend with the flavour profile of the age statement OB's Tom ?
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Postby Tom » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:32 pm

Well, there is sweet malt and sherry in all and usually these are the balancing flavors. But I wouldnt say I could recognize a Glenfarclas if served blind amongst other malts.

It is quite weird come to think of it, they are all different, Ian once told me this is because the percentage of sherry increases with the different age statements, but I personally find the sherry in the 10 and 21 very different then the sherry in the 12,15 and 25, plus the more "clean" sherry in the 105 and the 30. And there you go, I guess those groups present the best trends as far as mutual flavor is concerend.

I am working on a database my brother in law made for my notes, with an option to compare every malt i sampled with eachother, based on a specific flavor profile I use for every whisky. Once all the glenfarclas bottlings are entered I will have a more detailed and specific view on the "housestyle" of glenfarclas.
If that's your question, it will be easyer to answer it then.

For now I find them quite different without seeing a clear "trend", the only thing that strikes me every time I have a Glenfarclas is the honey and brown sugar alongside the sweet malt, it seems every bottling has this, including the vintage selection.
I'm not sure this answered your question though.
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Postby bamber » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:48 pm

Thanks Tom, that is exactly what I meant.
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Postby patrick dicaprio » Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:59 pm

SpiritofShetland wrote:Only had the 105 and 10yo myself.

The 105 is marvelous, but the 10yo is somewhat too plain for me.


havent had the 105 yet, not sure i will. I have it on my "to drink" list, but the other glenfarclae i have had are so sweet that i am now soured on it (forgive the pun).

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Postby Deactivated Member » Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:24 pm

bamber wrote:I was trying to do pseudo-latin. Now I think about it it should be Glenfarcli anyway :)


Sorry, Bamber, "Glenfarcli" would be the plural of "Glenfarclus". I think we've been around on this before, but that's never stopped me: It is my supremely uninformed and arbitrary opinion that the faux-Latin plural of Glenfarclas should be Glenfarclæs, the last syllable rhyming with "please".
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Postby bernstein » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:41 pm

Just finished may Glenfarclas 12 – the last quarter of the bottle improved a little bit, the described harshness stepped back into the background. Still not one of my favourites though.

Talking about the Glenfarclae, Glenfarcli et alii we should try to decide, which Latin declension applies here:
Listening to the (supposed) right pronounciation of Glenfarclas, the sixth or the seventh (?) Latin declension might apply, so it’s indeed Glenfarclēs (the right pronounciation of course is still a matter of crosscultural diversion (I always liked the way Americans pronounced the Greek philosopher Platon/πλάτων = something like Play-dow :D !).

:!: Warning - off topic :!: :
One could try to do the same with others as well:
Loch Dhu – pl. Loch Dhua
Ardbeg – pl. Ardbegēs
Ben Nevis, pl. Ben Nevēs
Scapa – pl. Scapae, like Caol Ilae, Glen Scotiae, Isles of Jurae etc.
Edradour, pl. Edradorîs, like Aberlorîs…
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Postby Deactivated Member » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:52 pm

Well, it's the noun part of the name that should be pluralized, isn't it? So, in English, anyway: Lochs Dhu, Ards Beg, Caols Ila. In other languages, the number of the adjective will have to agree with the number of the noun. Perhaps Nick would be so kind as to tell us how to do it in Gaelic. I do like Scapae and Jurae, though (or is it Scapæ and Juræ?).

Who opened this bloody can of worms? Apologies to the originator of the thread.
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