MrTattieHeid wrote: Sherried Malt wrote:
Aidan wrote:I'm always suspicious when I see those old macallans and the like up for sale on ebay, especially when they're from an Italian seller. That said, maybe this particular seller is totally legit.
Aidan, what prompts the suspicion about the Italian sellers? Don't want to put you on the spot, so please PM me if that's better.
There have been a lot of fakes out of Italy, particularly, I gather, from one unscrupulous character. I think it is unfortunate that anything out of Italy is regarded with suspicion; it strikes me as an unfair prejudice, tantamount to racism. Certainly there are many legitimate and avid collectors in Italy--there must be, or there wouldn't be predators trying to dupe them. Likewise, there are frauds in every country. Why does a high-profile crook in Italy cast doubt every bottle offered for sale from that country, when the same seems not to be true of other shady dealers in other countries?
I don't mean to get down on anyone. I just think it's worth questioning certain knee-jerk reactions. And truth to tell, I am not a collector myself, and cannot say with any degree of honesty that if I were, I would not think the same thing.
Utter nonsense. First of all, I was asking the forum if they thought these bottles were legitimate because Italian sellers have been identified as fraudsters for selling very similar bottles through eBay.
Second, I think it is unusual that such rare bottles are sold on eBay, rather than an auction house that can confirm the authenticity of the bottles.
Third, I qualified my comments by saying that I was not accusing this seller of anything, but just asking the forum's opinion.
Fourth, I do not cast doubts on everything sold out of Italy. I wouldn't have the time if I wanted to. Nor does anyone else.
And I believe most of the Italian fraudsters are probably the same guy under different names. Which certainly doesn't make them most Italians.
Raceism? That's utter poppycock, and irresponsible.