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Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Dubois » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:48 pm

Why is it there are so very few comments about Lagavulin 12 Yrs on this forum ?
I allways had the highest opinion on this dram.
What do you guys think of it ?
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby MrAwesome » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:05 pm

Lagavulin 12 is an excellent whisky. As far as my own tastes, it ranks up there with the 16 y.o. and the Ardbegs & Laphroiags. Too bad it's very expensive here in the U.S.
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby hpulley » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:03 pm

I love the first couple of the releases but then had a few that were one dimensional, just peaty cask strength whiskies without much more going for them. As well, the cost here shot up from $75/bottle to $120 which is too much considering I get get my preferred Ardbegs for less. I wish the 16yo was cask strength as the extra four years seems to help Lagavulin mellow out a bit while still remaining quite peaty.

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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Ryguy » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:58 pm

I am a huge Lagavulin fan as well, and I really enjoy the 12 yr CS. Some people find cask strength whisky's too "spirity", but I tend to like them all. The only thing, and it was already mentioned is that the 12 yr is a little expensive $120-$140 depending on where you are in the U.S.
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Bulkington » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:17 pm

I've only ever seen it for $160 in NY.
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby K-Mile » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:33 pm

Wow, seriously :shock:

That sounds like a lot of money for a 12yo...
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby pkt77242 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:34 am

Lagavulin 12yo cs goes for about $180 out here in Arizona (and that is saying you can even find it).

That compares to the Talisker 25yo cs at $190 and the Caol Ila 25yo cs at $200.

I love Lagavulin but I don't love it that much.

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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby K-Mile » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:25 am

I can get a Laga 12 CS for around 45 EUR here in Amsterdam, 65 USD...
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby les taylor » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:40 am

K-Mile wrote:I can get a Laga 12 CS for around 45 EUR here in Amsterdam, 65 USD...


K-Mile you do get a good deal where you are. It's £41 here for tthe 2007 release. That about 30% less than we pay, and it has to be shipped to Holland.


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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Wave » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:50 am

pkt77242 wrote:Lagavulin 12yo cs goes for about $180 out here in Arizona (and that is saying you can even find it).

That compares to the Talisker 25yo cs at $190 and the Caol Ila 25yo cs at $200.

I love Lagavulin but I don't love it that much.

Sean


I thought it was expensive when I was buying it in Chicago (Binny's) just last year for $100 a bottle, specially when my fav Laphroaig 10yo CS is selling for under $55. At $180 they can keep it! It's good but not that good.


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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby pkt77242 » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:20 am

Wave wrote:
pkt77242 wrote:Lagavulin 12yo cs goes for about $180 out here in Arizona (and that is saying you can even find it).

That compares to the Talisker 25yo cs at $190 and the Caol Ila 25yo cs at $200.

I love Lagavulin but I don't love it that much.

Sean


I thought it was expensive when I was buying it in Chicago (Binny's) just last year for $100 a bottle, specially when my fav Laphroaig 10yo CS is selling for under $55. At $180 they can keep it! It's good but not that good.


Cheers!


Exactly why I haven't bought one out here yet. Lagavulin 16yo is amazing to me but I can't rationalize spending the $180 for a 12yo CS. I could probably rationalize the $100 though.

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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Reggaeblues » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:20 pm

Wave wrote:
pkt77242 wrote:Lagavulin 12yo cs goes for about $180 out here in Arizona (and that is saying you can even find it).

That compares to the Talisker 25yo cs at $190 and the Caol Ila 25yo cs at $200.

I love Lagavulin but I don't love it that much.

Sean


I thought it was expensive when I was buying it in Chicago (Binny's) just last year for $100 a bottle, specially when my fav Laphroaig 10yo CS is selling for under $55. At $180 they can keep it! It's good but not that good.


Cheers!



As a shallow-of-pocket musician who could once afford to buy Lag 12 here("only" £45) I can see your point! Frankly, great though Lag 12 was, Laphroaig CS is every bit a match for it...and just as much fun, if not more!
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby I_SPEY » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:52 pm

Hello whisky-lovers,

Just a little signal from me, I_SPEY, from Holland, you are all doing very well, more or less, but you (and me now) are talking about great whiskies with great flavours, smells etc.
I am collecting whiskies for the last 30 years now and please, do realy believe me, when you are talking about such a whisky as Lagavulin (12YO),scoring in Jim Murray's bible 93% - I (already before this bible) thought, this particulary fine whisky, is of a very high level.When you buy this whisky, it's a great deal, but never discuss the price!! This extremely lovely whisky is not worth it and I agree with some of you, that there are more whiskies like this one,or even better, it's all depending on Your Taste (and nos[/b]e!).

Please, maestro's, play on .....

Bottoms up! :roll:
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Reggaeblues » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:33 pm

I-Spey, I admire your views, and agree some things in life are priceless, and worth whatever your passion determines!

However...economics do limit much of what one can actually do in this world, and until situations improve on that level, i will probably never get to open my own Port Ellen, or Brora, or many of the fine but pricey bottlings that come out...until i get to do private concerts for whisky collecters, inexchange for tastings!!!!!(hint, hint, Les!!)

Thank god, therefore, that, for folks like our friend in america, there are great whiskies on the market, "official bottlings", that are exceptional, like the standard Lagavulin 16, or Taliskers, Laphroaigs, Ardbegs, Macallans and Glenmorangies, that aren't going to leave the cupboard bare of Baked Beans, or break up marriages...
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby K-Mile » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:26 am

I_SPEY, where are you in Holland? I am living in Amsterdam, about to move into a new appartment near the Central Station...

I agree with both of you. Sometimes you just have to take the plunge and get something that's really worth it, but that is simply only possible if you've got the cash to cover the expenses. I myself had a period of very low expenses (did not have a home, so no rent as well, and lots of free meals at the office) so I turbo-charged into this new hobby. I've been drinking whisky since I joined this forum (+/- 2 months) and like it that much that I've already got some of the more expensive bottles.. (you can check the pictures in my URL in my profile to see my currrent stash :) )

But, when I do move into my new home, rent will go up quite some, so I will probably not be able to spend the money on whisky I've done the past weeks. But that's totally fine, because I've had the chance to get some special bottles when I had the chance and I enjoy the standard expressions just as much! :thumbsup:
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Reggaeblues » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:23 am

Nice post K-Mile...
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby K-Mile » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:45 am

Reggaeblues wrote:Nice post K-Mile...


Thanks, but it was just my own interpretation of your post right above it, and that of I_SPEY.

By the way: do you do gigs in The Netherlands? Will be happy to pay for them in Scotch ;)
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby pkt77242 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:39 am

I agree that there are lots of great drams out there for reasonable prices. Thank you Reggaeblues


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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby MrAwesome » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:51 pm

I have found it cheaper to purchase 2 or 3 bottles at a time from the UK & ship it back to the US. It was a lot less expensive than trying to find it here, especially if you can, for $150 per bottle, in the New York area. Even better, my last purchase was a few months ago, I had a friend go to a wedding near Oxford. I had 2 bottles of Lag.12 & and an Almost There shipped to her uncle's home and she brought it back for me. Saved a lot on the shipping too.
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby K-Mile » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:50 pm

MrAwesome wrote:I have found it cheaper to purchase 2 or 3 bottles at a time from the UK & ship it back to the US. It was a lot less expensive than trying to find it here, especially if you can, for $150 per bottle, in the New York area. Even better, my last purchase was a few months ago, I had a friend go to a wedding near Oxford. I had 2 bottles of Lag.12 & and an Almost There shipped to her uncle's home and she brought it back for me. Saved a lot on the shipping too.


IT appears most UK retailers do not ship to the US, or only ship 'at your own risk'. I suppose this is because of tight customs/regulations?
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby MrAwesome » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:56 am

K-Mile wrote:
MrAwesome wrote:I have found it cheaper to purchase 2 or 3 bottles at a time from the UK & ship it back to the US. It was a lot less expensive than trying to find it here, especially if you can, for $150 per bottle, in the New York area. Even better, my last purchase was a few months ago, I had a friend go to a wedding near Oxford. I had 2 bottles of Lag.12 & and an Almost There shipped to her uncle's home and she brought it back for me. Saved a lot on the shipping too.


IT appears most UK retailers do not ship to the US, or only ship 'at your own risk'. I suppose this is because of tight customs/regulations?

K-Mile, I guess so on customs. I purchase whisky from the UK regularly and haven't had any problems. Where can one purchase Lag 12 for $65/bottle? I wonder what the shipping would be?
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby K-Mile » Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:22 am

MrAwesome wrote:
K-Mile wrote:
MrAwesome wrote:I have found it cheaper to purchase 2 or 3 bottles at a time from the UK & ship it back to the US. It was a lot less expensive than trying to find it here, especially if you can, for $150 per bottle, in the New York area. Even better, my last purchase was a few months ago, I had a friend go to a wedding near Oxford. I had 2 bottles of Lag.12 & and an Almost There shipped to her uncle's home and she brought it back for me. Saved a lot on the shipping too.


IT appears most UK retailers do not ship to the US, or only ship 'at your own risk'. I suppose this is because of tight customs/regulations?

K-Mile, I guess so on customs. I purchase whisky from the UK regularly and haven't had any problems. Where can one purchase Lag 12 for $65/bottle? I wonder what the shipping would be?


I saw them at Gall&Gall (largest dutch liquor retailer) or Ton Overmars (more specialist shop). The last one might ship to the US (http://www.tonovermars.nl).

I'll be there in a short while. If I can remember, I'll ask... If you send me a PM as a reminder ;)
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby I_SPEY » Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:40 pm

K-Mile wrote:I_SPEY, where are you in Holland? I am living in Amsterdam, about to move into a new appartment near the Central Station...

I agree with both of you. Sometimes you just have to take the plunge and get something that's really worth it, but that is simply only possible if you've got the cash to cover the expenses. I myself had a period of very low expenses (did not have a home, so no rent as well, and lots of free meals at the office) so I turbo-charged into this new hobby. I've been drinking whisky since I joined this forum (+/- 2 months) and like it that much that I've already got some of the more expensive bottles.. (you can check the pictures in my URL in my profile to see my currrent stash :) )

But, when I do move into my new home, rent will go up quite some, so I will probably not be able to spend the money on whisky I've done the past weeks. But that's totally fine, because I've had the chance to get some special bottles when I had the chance and I enjoy the standard expressions just as much! :thumbsup:


Sorry K-Mile, that I forgot to answer you, but I live in 010 (Rotterdam), sorry for this joke and I will never do this again!Lets get on with your and my hobby, WHISK(E)Y
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby CCRoy » Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:27 pm

You can try shopping for it online. Check out retailers, not auction sites, where some less informed nutter could happily jack the bid up into the stratosphere (I don't even know if there's any auction sites that allow you to sell wine and iquor anymore - is there?). I know of Spec's here in Texas (Houston - http://www.specsonline.com ) and they can ship to many places in the US. They didn't have the 12 yo listed when I just checked, but they had the 16 yo for about $80. You can call them and ask if and when they can get the 12 yo and about how much it runs.

It's concievable that, if a high volume wholehouse like Spec's in Houston doesn't have it listed as something regularly in stock, it's a hard-to-get item over here in the States, perhaps due to the demand back in the UK and other countries (and how much of it the distillery is making right now). That probably is what's affecting the price over here. I persoanlly find that a tad suspicious, since there's been a fairly strong ad campaign for Lagavulin over here - are they intentionally drumming up consumer interest in a product that's scrace, just so they can drive the pricec up? Dunno, but I don't like it.
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby lexvo » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:53 pm

Last week I bought a bottle of Lagavulin 12 for 47 euros (about $66). :)
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby peergynt323 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:13 pm

I wasn't blown away by the 12yo when I tried it. I was blown away by the new DE though.
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Dubois » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:14 pm

lexvo wrote:Last week I bought a bottle of Lagavulin 12 for 47 euros (about $66). :)


That's cheap ! (Or, if you prefer: spotgoedkoop!)
Here we pay around 56 euros...
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Mr Fjeld » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:08 pm

68,- Euros here...... :(
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Bulkington » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:52 pm

$160 across the street from where I work. :x
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby I_SPEY » Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:06 pm

If you take one, you take another and another and .....
:P :P
Exquisite.
But, there is also Lag. 16yo, even more.....?!
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Laphroaig » Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:55 pm

It's available through German merchants for the low price quotes above. Due to recent events, since the effects of 2001, it's become tough to find a merchant that will ship.

One thing I discovered is the general wholesale cost for the US .750 bottle is more than double the typical retail cost of the .700 cl German retail price.
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby Ganga » Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:17 am

I myself prefer the 12 to the 16, mostly because the extra alcohol cuts through to the palate better for me. However, considering that in So California they are generally selling it for $150 plus....
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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby mikeymad » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:34 pm

Overall, I probably still like the 16yo a little bit more than the 12yo. The 16 is more refined for me with more flavors. But there is something special about the Cask Strength nature of the 12yo. I do like to drink it.

I was able to get it for about $90USD, which is about $30 more than the 16y for me. At that price it was worth having around. At twice the price for the 12yo, I would just buy the 16yo (and be happy)

Now the Standard 16yo at CS.... that would be something to try...

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Re: Lagavulin 12 Yrs

Postby I_SPEY » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:40 pm

Personally, I think the 16yo is some richer in its flavour than the 12yo.
I adore this whisky - it realy is one of my favourites. :P
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