Bob O. wrote:Hey Laphroaig,
What local shops carry it? I don't usually frequent shops in SF but on the Peninsula I haven't seen it.
Thanks for whatever info you can provide.
Sorry for the hijack, Admiral.
In general, stores that get the Antique Collection (George T. Stagg, Sazerac 18, Eagle Rare 17 etc.) would typically be allocated maybe 3 bottles of VWFR 13 Rye.
As oldrip stipulated the whiskey originates from defunct operations / periods. The truth is almost
all the (American) rye whiskey you can find today, that is over 18 or so years of age, was the production of one of the two rye sources oldrip named.
After you get past that fact, the secondary fact to contemplate is this:
If you like any of these current well aged ryes - YOU BETTER BUY THEM NOT NOW - BUT RIGHT NOW. Because what you see is an overproduction of product from the early - mid 80s. After 1985 or thereabout, there was little to NO backup production and a very limited market for rye.
What that means is what ever remains will only get more limited (which unless you are paid in currency other than US Dollars) means it will only get more expensive.
The reason you can't find the VWFR13 Rye is because Julian is only releasing around 300 (or something like that) cases annually (world wide) until new make catches up (that'd require 13 years maturation), and I'd guestimate we're about 5-7 years into it with at least 5-6 more years of wait, til there is new back-up stock.
Further, this begs anxious question, will the newer make be to y/our liking as much as the older (if you liked the current rye available).
As a side, given that many of the varied brand names contain same sibling whiskey, I'm surprised more people don't
prejudicially grab which ever has the lowest price tag... although, I'd have to agree that some of what's bottled is quite a bit tasty than others.
p.s. - sorry for the nostalgic thread jacking. Last I looked, (admittedly a few months back), you could still get bottles of letter "A", VWFR13 out of the UK including what I felt was the best variation IÂ´ve tasted - the 100Âº, un-filtered presentation.